Where Has Mad Dog Gone?

I agree that a lot of analysis would be academic at best. But that is not a reason not to do it.

It is precisely that you cannot "Testdrive" the knife, that these forums are valuable. I like to hear about the broken knives and knife testing, because you get to see just how much they did hold up to, rather than what eventually broke it's back.

Funny, you should mention the lending bit. I went on to tacticalforums.net and tried to find someone local who I could visit to check out the panther. Nobody responded. Another MDK enthusiast in near me who does not have the Panther, but does have a few other ones has agreed to let me take a gander.

In fact, Kevin McClung, FrankDL, and a bunch of other MDK owners have been really friendly and forthcoming outside the forum. The only negativity I have recieved from being inquisitive has been on this thread. Something to think about.

The funny thing is that all those who have attacked w/o provocation probably didn't read the thread. If they thought it was "grating sarcasm", they could have replied in kind, instead of with righteous indignation.

I think you wrapped it up with this statement:

"overprotective MDK owners or people with poor reading skills."

In the end, what has occured in this thread is the best response to the threadstarter as he inquired "What has Mad Dog gone?"

The answer seems to be "Anywhere but here, because people just start attacking each other without listening to each other whenever MDK is the topic."
 
Originally posted by Buzzbait
I've never really looked hard at Mad dog knives. They seem pretty nifty. If I could afford one, I'd give it a try.

One question though. Is the blade thickness, behind the edge, thick like a Busse? If so, I'd have to remove the chrome plaiting to thin out the primary bevel. That doesn't sound like fun.
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If you check out Tim Tang's site he has the specs for most of the models.

The bigger ones are around 1/4" inch thick. The smaller ones are 3/16" inch. But these vary from model to model.
 
Sundsvall,

Glad to hear that you'll be able to test drive at least one of the models and, hopefully, that Panther you're talking about. I'm one of the people with poor reading skills, though I do believe I would be an overprotective Mad Dog Knife owner were I, in fact, to own one.
 
I don't think I will be able to whack anything with them. Just some fondling with some oohhhs and ahhhs.

About the overzealousness, I'm glad to hear one of you admit it!:D
 
Sunsvall...poor reading skills, didn't read the thread? Not me...you've been read, all of it. Take a chill pill, if your tone was misconstrued, so what. However, when more than one person tells you your tone is negative, you should look at yourself, not disparage the reader.

Is that a banana in your pocket or are you glad to see your dog? Behind a computer we can't tell, but if you made a fuss over your dog, some may not think it was a banana.
 
Brownshoe,

The thing about poor reading skills was me explaining my misunderstanding what Sundsvall was saying. A lot of innocent stuff reads as fight-provoking material online, so I was explaining my defensive posturing.
 
Originally posted by brownshoe
Sunsvall...poor reading skills, didn't read the thread? Not me...you've been read, all of it. Take a chill pill, if your tone was misconstrued, so what. However, when more than one person tells you your tone is negative, you should look at yourself, not disparage the reader.

Is that a banana in your pocket or are you glad to see your dog? Behind a computer we can't tell, but if you made a fuss over your dog, some may not think it was a banana.
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[sarcasm] Okay Tough guy. I must have been wrong. Everything that I found on the BF, KF and TF must not have involved the 4 topics I outlined.[/sarcasm]

So, are saying that, these are the things I don't like about MDK? Because if you are, then I am sorry to inform you that you CANNOT READ. If read more books, this problem can be taken care of quickly.

Now all this perversion about dogs and bananas - you should seek help.
 
Sundsvall, if you do a search on the forum names of some of the people who have been argueing with you, you'll see that's what they do, argue. ...then you'll understand the adage about wrestling with pigs in the mud.

Anecdotal at best, but I had MadDog ATAK Hunter and loved it. ...but so did an SF Captain (brother of my son-in-law)I know. So I gave it to him to take to Kuwait/Afghanistan. It served him well for the 9 months he was there. That model comes with a simple slip sheath so I had a custom made, jump qualified sheath made by Scott Hendryx in Boise. It pleased the Green Beret very much.

My opinion of MadDog knives is very positive.

I remember someone saying that they were present when MadDog clamped one of his knives in a vise on a service truck, tied a line to the thong hole in the handle, and towed another vehicle with it. I don't think the handle will come off, and his design is supposed to be electrically insulated with the enclosed tang.

Hope you get to handle one.

Regards,

Bruce Woodbury
 
I love my Mad Dog knives. I currently carry a Wild Thing and have no doubt it would protect me from harm.

Fred
 
Thanks Bruce. I see what you mean.

I just shot from the hip. I was looking into getting MD knives and did a bunch of research.

Since Pointy asked the question, I thought I would summarize and share the fruits of my researching labor.

Never thought that I would have to defend the opinions and observations brought about in the "MAD DOG WARS".

Let me get this straight, you are saying that Brownshoe is a "pig rolling in mud"?:D
 
I dont think BS is a troll, but he is a little argumentative, and has a bit of an agenda, for example, he doesnt like Chris Reeve, or Strider, and has made that clear, seems to have it in for both companies, yet he seems to like and support Mad Dog, Kevin, is that you??? :)

Just playing... :)
 
There's plenty of better knives, for less money, with better service from the makers. You only need to dig out the truth for yourself. Simonich's Mid-Tech series would be an outstanding choice for anyone - as are the Chris Reeve Green Beret Knives.

There is nothing magical about O-1 and G10 handles. There is nothing magical about using epoxy to bond the handles to the knife. There is nothing magical or super secret about the handle material. There is nothing magical about hard chrome - and it's not all that great a coating.

So what are you paying for? What is it worth to you? Are you even getting something worth what you paid?

Don't even get me started on the total wackiness of the personalities involved - heck they just accused me of hacking their site after bothering to respond to their latest batch of lies. The sheer level of lunacy displayed & suspension of disbelief of the fans is utterly amazing. Maybe you'll get a signed copy of his book when you buy the knife - it'd be worth the entertainment. :rolleyes:
 
Ummm, Spark, I'm sure that was just an innocent typo, but we all know the handles are NOT G10, they're top secret, proprietary G11. :) I'm waiting for G12, I have heard its tough as nails and can wash and wax your car too...
 
Where Has Mad Dog Gone?

As a perpetual smart A, the simple answer is Prescott Valley, AZ (a great place to make great knifes).
 
Hype is what often bothers me. Part of knife hype is deciding that maker/factory A is god and maker/factory B is a putz. And then sticking with these opinions irrespectivee of objective evidence.

With Mad Dog, I used to believe the negative stuff. I've read it since the beginning of these forums. Particularly the infamous tests, notched tang, etc. Kevin did not come out smelling sweet. However his adversaries have since showed they have more than a little brown on their shoes. Kevin may be paranoid, but then given some of his ex-employees and the people here, he may have good reason to be paranoid. A little visible craziness just makes someone more interesting. Work within their insanity and life can be great. We're all a little nutzy, hell we collect knives.

What changed my mind about Mad Dog's Knives was the legion of hard using lovers of his product. What changed my mind was seeing and handling them. They're somewhat ugly, but they feel great. What changed my mind was seeing how few used ones are available and when they are they get snapped up quickly. What changed my mind was never seeing a pristine one at a knife or gun shows, they all had hard use and still stood strong. Simple materials, good execution...is that elegance?
 
Originally posted by Spark
So what are you paying for? What is it worth to you? Are you even getting something worth what you paid?
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A knife with superb design and workmanship that is in complete accord with the KISS principle, built to as effective and durable as possible. All my Mad Dog knives are now worth more than I paid for them, even in their used conditions. When you can buy a knife, use it for years, then sell it for more than you paid for it, I would say you have gotten pretty good value from it.

Originally posted by Spark
Don't even get me started on the total wackiness of the personalities involved - heck they just accused me of hacking their site after bothering to respond to their latest batch of lies. The sheer level of lunacy displayed & suspension of disbelief of the fans is utterly amazing. Maybe you'll get a signed copy of his book when you buy the knife - it'd be worth the entertainment. :rolleyes:
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Once again, you personally have taken this subject right to the very bottom. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The circumstantial evidence is not in your favor.
 
Originally posted by Steve Harvey
A knife with superb design and workmanship that is in complete accord with the KISS principle, built to as effective and durable as possible. All my Mad Dog knives are now worth more than I paid for them, even in their used conditions. When you can buy a knife, use it for years, then sell it for more than you paid for it, I would say you have gotten pretty good value from it.
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Well, that's certainly your opinion, and you are more than welcome to it. Personally, I feel that paying hundreds of dollars for a piece of O1 with G10 handles is a bit excessive, especially with the better alternatives out there, but it's your money. Again, there are better materials for blade steel, better coatings, and superior methods of construction, but whatever floats your boat - you are the one paying for it.

Once again, you personally have taken this subject right to the very bottom. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The circumstantial evidence is not in your favor.
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And how is that, Steve? What "circumstantial evidence" do you refer to? The alleged hacking that suppossedly took place? Coming from people who claimed to be CIA wunderkind, using books that never existed to "prove" bona-fides, claiming specs on common materials to be super secret composites, and other dubious claims my credibility is not the one lacking.

I stand by what I said - the suspension of disbelief and sheer wackiness typified by certain makers & their fans is amazing. The double standards, hypocricy, and childlike refusal to accept personal responsibility of these same people is nothing out of the ordinary - it's just been ignored and glossed over.

It's your money - and if feel that a personality & mythical reputation based on smoke & mirrors is worth that, then it is your choice. I stated the facts - you are welcome to repudiate them if you can.

Those in glass houses certainly shouldn't throw stones, Steve - maybe you should direct that sage advice to your hero. You know where he's hiding. He's got a lot to answer for - and his behavior certainly hasn't changed. You can read it for yourself, if he hasn't deleted the threads yet.

Kevin
 
good thing he didnt ask about a Sebenza :D

There allot of differing opinions on MadDog Knives .
I worked part time in a gun shop in town here years ago , we carried Mad Dog knives . Owner had them more for his personal collection as they were priced higher than they should have been .

We would sell one occasionally though we never advertised them...then at a SOF show here in Vegas I had one gentleman buy 5 knives without batting an eye.

Wish I had snagged one at my employee discount :grumpy:
 
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