Which factory folder were you most disappointed with?

twid said:
Mine was also my large 21. Brand new from the box the stop pin screw fell out after opening and closing the knife no more than 10 times. The pivot screw was also loose where I could rotate it with my finger tip. After tighening and loosening several times I could not find a balance. It was either to tight and hard to open or loose screws. The slightest adjustments only gave me those to results. The only way I could get it to function smoothly was to put blue lock tight on the screws and leave them loose enough where I could still rotate them with my finger tip. After 2 weeks the lock up was about 95%? The lock bar was about the width of the knife's washer from touching the other scale. I kept it for 2 months then traded. I really did like it and I know I could have sent it in but I was disappointed and did not want to deal with it anymore.
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Did it come from CRK like that? The reason I ask is that I bought mine used and took it apart to clean it. When I put it back together the blade was off-center and overall a bit like you are describing. I realized that everything kind of snapped together within tight tolerances. When I got it right, it was perfect.
 
I have been dissapointed quite a few times. Thats part of the reason I've moved more towards customs.
 
My first Emerson....an A100.
I might have been expecting a bit too much...made in the USA, titanium liners, hard use knife, blah blah, etc etc, and it was over $100.
The liners were different thickness, one really thin, one normal looking (to me anyway) and full of tool marks, blade was ground off center.....a lot, scales over hung the liners.
There really is no point at all in using titanium liners this thin on what is suppose to be a hard use knife. And I've seen better fit/finish on stuff coming out of China...
Emerson should look at the ZT line....hard use knives, with great fit/finish, made in the USA and cheaper.
 
Buck Tarani Strider. Total POS, lousy cheap-ass liner, G-10 scales
aggressive enough to grate cheese. heavy "stippled", off center
blade---complete waste of money. A disgrace to an otherwise fine company.
 
Bladetech U.L.U., I read about it in tactical knives, or blade mag and was interested enough so I bought it based on the authurs good remarks. When it came it was good quality, came sharp. It just wasnt my cup of tea. The opening cutout was sharp and ripped my thumb apart, it was bulky and in the pocket carry was uncomfortable. I could could see buying another if I picked up hunting again, but for EDC no.
 
lava_lamp said:
  • Kershaw Vapor - Junk
  • Cold Steel Ti-Lite (Titanium) - Garbage for $100 plus
  • Cold Steel Nightshade Boot Dagger - not really a knife - just something to get you in trouble
  • Kershaw Chive - wouldn't hold an edge
  • Buck Pilot - pretty much the equivalent of a vapor
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What made the Ti-Lite = Garbage?
 
Emerson. Bought new from dealer, liner lock easily failed after 1.5 months of use. Sent to EKI twice to fix it. Still fails. I will never buy another Emerson. My two Cold Steel knives have held up better after harder usage and cost a helluvalot less!
 
Hitzy said:
My first Emerson....an A100.
I might have been expecting a bit too much...made in the USA, titanium liners, hard use knife, blah blah, etc etc, and it was over $100.
The liners were different thickness, one really thin, one normal looking (to me anyway) and full of tool marks, blade was ground off center.....a lot, scales over hung the liners.
There really is no point at all in using titanium liners this thin on what is suppose to be a hard use knife. And I've seen better fit/finish on stuff coming out of China...
Emerson should look at the ZT line....hard use knives, with great fit/finish, made in the USA and cheaper.
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First of all...do some research before you buy/bash anything.

1. The Thicker liner is made of Titanium, and is also the side responsible for keeping the knife locked. The whole point of it being thicker is so it has more muscles to keep the lock engaged.

2. The ground was not off center, it's called a Chisel Grind, which means it's only ground on one side.

3. The Titanium Liners have no cutout, unlike Frame Locks. The Liner does not have a cutout, so that means it is stronger than the FrameLocks that do have cutouts that are thinner.

4. If you have seen better stuff coming out of China, why don't you show us what it is and introduce it to us?
 
My biggest disappointment was with a Sm Sebenza Classic 2K. Somehow I managed to cut myself on the blade edge when the blade was closed. :eek:

Probably a fluke, but I can't help thinking that it's a design problem.
 
xtestifyx said:
First of all...do some research before you buy/bash anything.
2. The ground was not off center, it's called a Chisel Grind, which means it's only ground on one side.
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Not trying to stray to far from the topic but Emerson does advertise their knives as having a conventional V grind. Anyone that has owned an Emerson knows this isn't true but for a person new to the brand it could lead to some confusion. The grind is one reason why I'll not own another Emerson without sending it to Krein to be reground.
 
the grind on most emerson is a V grind, the sharpening is chisel.

a chisel grind is when a side of the blade is totally flat from spine to edge (or hollow but this is very specific to japanese knives)
 
They have all made a dud or two for sure. I could never warm up to the Scallion. It was not as light as I expected and I just don't care for an assisted knife.

To the young'uns that mentioned Gerber it's a shame you probably don't have any old knives. My last Gerber purchase was in the early 80's and it is a terrific knife. I don't know if they still make a good knife in the USA but they sure used to!
 
Schrade Cliphanger.

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That's not my pic, my knife has a metal thumb stud.

The thumb stud is hard to use and kinda hurts your thumb. Also it's large enough to interfere with cutting tasks.
The plastic handle has a scary amount of flex, and no metal liners. The back of the knife is held together by a metal screw driven into the soft plastic. If it strips out the plastic you're...screwed.

I liked the blade shape, and the lanyard with quick release was a cool idea. I actually want to see more knives with that feature.

But the construction was really really horrible. I was just a kid, and it took me a while to figure this out. But once the idea that there were knives with design flaws sunk in it started my search for knives without them...and here I am.
 
Opinel#6 said:
Bladetech U.L.U., I read about it in tactical knives, or blade mag and was interested enough so I bought it based on the authurs good remarks. When it came it was good quality, came sharp. It just wasnt my cup of tea. The opening cutout was sharp and ripped my thumb apart, it was bulky and in the pocket carry was uncomfortable. I could could see buying another if I picked up hunting again, but for EDC no.
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ive got a ulu and its not what i expected.they suck.imo
 
for me probably the crkt point gaurd,no cutout for the liner,pocket clip was HUGE!and only tip-down,i just never liked it
 
seelow123 said:
Spyderco Endura 4 ZDP-189....rusted out completely I just tossed it in the trash can where it belonged. Never bought another spyderco....Can't believe they would produce such a knife.
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You just had a bad experience - what were the circumstances of this failure? I'm sorry if you posted - I missed it. :)
 
Last year, I bought a Kershaw at Wal-Mart (I think it's called the OD-1) and opened it up outside in my car. I just did not like the design once it was in hand. Plus, when the one I had was closed, the tip stuck out of the handle. I walked back into the store and thankfully, was able to return it and get my money back. I made it clear to them that the knife wasn't at fault, I just changed my mind about it. They never made any fuss about it, even though I had opened up the clamshell package.

Only a couple days ago, I wanted to buy another new Endura 4 SE at a gun shop. I already own several E4's, but wanted another SE one. I paid for it and, again, in my car, really examined it more closely. This particular one's flat saber grind (the primary grind) was esp. thick, thicker than any of my other E4's. It made the blade fatter looking at it cross-section, and the edge more obtuse. I also noticed one of the clip screws was completely stripped. So I walked back in and returned it, also. In this case, I like the design, but was being my usual picky self.
Jim
 
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