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serrations that short are good for one thing, IMO, scraping shavings from battoned wood for tinder
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Which Knife(s) Do We Takes With Us My Precious?
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Well the knife itself is basically a dagger? Also a tactical knife by the looks of it. Sharpened spine = chewed up baton doesn't it? I'm not a fan of serrations but they're supposed to keep cutting long after plain edges have dulled. That knife looks menacing, but screams fighter blade, and not utility knife to me.
Interesting to note, Busse knives seem to be the most common of all here thus far.
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It's not physics.
Most of us own more than two knives or don't own the one knife that we really want. It makes you think about what priorities are most important when bugging as well.
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This still begs the question what you would normally use. Which you answered. To answer you directly. I wouldn't use my NMFBM all the time. I have many knives more suited to each task which I use them for. If I were only allowed one though. I would consider my priorities different and look for something that can handle all tasks, but masters none. You can't chop with a Spyderco Military. It simply isn't designed for it. If I had to "bug-out", I would probably consider the ability to chop useful amongst many other tasks I might need it for. Food prep, Battoning, and even wood-working. Larger knives can work as a draw knife and work well for building. So does an axe though.
To reiterate: This is an exersise in FUN. It's hard to understand for some. The daily grind can sometimes feel oppressive in my life also. However, it is important while fraternizing with folks that share the same interest to be... pleasant
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UHH OK, I guess we are bugging out due to zombie infestation.
My point was, if I was bugging out I would still be doing the same things with my knives that I always use them for, a knife is a knife, it's used to cut stuff, I guess I am still misssing the point. Chris
My point was, if I was bugging out I would still be doing the same things with my knives that I always use them for, a knife is a knife, it's used to cut stuff, I guess I am still misssing the point. Chris
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It's not physics.
Roll your eyes all you want dougo,
see I can do it too.Now explain how bugging out to your local woods is one bit different from camping normally in your local woods. Why would you need different steel, still makes zero sense to me. Chris
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I'll give you a scenario if you'd like. A pandemic of epic proportions has taken about 75% of the population. You're one of the few survivors. Governments worldwide are struggling to retain their infrastructure and failing on every level. Distribution of food and critical supplies are restricted to very few cities and you do not live in one of them.
You've been "bugged in" for a month straight and are running out of supplies and food. It will be important for you to "move on" soon and either reach an area of safety and where you can re-establish yourself or if you're far enough from what remains (if anything) of civilization, you'll have to consider living off the land as you determine what you'll do. Let's also say that fuel is at a premium and you can only drive for a limited time before you run out with no hope of re-supply.
You'll have to travel light and that means packing light and prioritizing what you bring. Most of the weight should be food and water. However, tools will be essential for a myriad of purposes. Knives will be one of those at the forefront in terms of usefulness. Which will you be packing with you to handle camp chores, trail blazing, fire making, food prep, skinning, building shelter and a number of other important tasks? This (and other similar scenarios) is what lies at the heart of my query. I hope that helps
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Roll your eyes all you want dougo,
Now explain how bugging out to your local woods is one bit different from camping normally in your local woods. Why would you need different steel, still makes zero sense to me. Chris
Nobody said it was different than camp chores, but it is. Camping isn't the same as "bugging out" or even "bugging in". It's an exercise in prioritizing and intended to spark the imagination. For most of us it's fun. For those that don't appreciate the exercise, feel free to express your disinterest by closing the page rather than reading and then responding.
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I'll give you a scenario if you'd like. A pandemic of epic proportions has taken about 75% of the population. You're one of the few survivors. Governments worldwide are struggling to retain their infrastructure and failing on every level. Distribution of food and critical supplies are restricted to very few cities and you do not live in one of them.
You've been "bugged in" for a month straight and are running out of supplies and food. It will be important for you to "move on" soon and either reach an area of safety and where you can re-establish yourself or if you're far enough from what remains (if anything) of civilization, you'll have to consider living off the land as you determine what you'll do. Let's also say that fuel is at a premium and you can only drive for a limited time before you run out with no hope of re-supply.
You'll have to travel light and that means packing light and prioritizing what you bring. Most of the weight should be food and water. However, tools will be essential for a myriad of purposes. Knives will be one of those at the forefront in terms of usefulness. Which will you be packing with you to handle camp chores, trail blazing, fire making, food prep, skinning, building shelter and a number of other important tasks? This (and other similar scenarios) is what lies at the heart of my query. I hope that helps
Oh, in that case it would be a Schrade 13ot and my spyderco military.
Where would you bug out to? Chris
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1. My CS Double edged machete.
2. See above + SAK
2. See above + SAK
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Why not, seems to be exactly the same to me.
EDIT: If I was "bugging in" why would I not just use the JA Henkels in the block on the kitchen counter, that's what I use when I'm not BIing.
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While camping, you're not going to be out for an extended period so you can take a few knives. You can also "make due" for periods of time with whatever your brought. It'll eventually be fine, you can go home and finish whatever task you need with an appropriate knife. When camping you don't usually make shelters from scratch or fell trees. At least I don't. I bring a tent
When bugging out in a real SHTF scenario, the possibility must be considered that at some point you might need to build yourself a little "cabin in the woods". A Spyderco Military won't help there. An ESEE-4 will be of some use, but not Ideal. What will you want if you decide to rebuild? What will take care of all your needs? I can skin with a large blade, even though it isn't ideal. Can I fell a tree with a small one? Nope. These scenarios, however unlikely, are interesting to consider. At least for some of us.
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I will leave yall alone and we will just say we have irreparable differences in philosophies.
Man has been on this planet for the vast majority of his time with nothing but a stick and a flake of stone and has survived quite well, out or in.
If mankind needs all this bling nowadays to keep him alive we are doomed as a species. Chris
Man has been on this planet for the vast majority of his time with nothing but a stick and a flake of stone and has survived quite well, out or in.
If mankind needs all this bling nowadays to keep him alive we are doomed as a species. Chris
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None of my philosophies are meant to suggest we aren't resilient. However, primitive man wasn't at all accustomed to our comfort either, neither did he have our tools. If it came to it, I think I have enough knowledge to put some steel together in a rudimentary way. Worst case, I could learn to knap flint.
However, that is all beside the point and misses the essence of the entire exercise, because we are on Bladeforums.com. This should account for something. The fact that we all own more knives than the average person suggests that this is a passion and interest for us that exceeds mere practicality. In all honesty, I see your responses as mostly argumentative (and without any real basis) and will accept your proposition to leave off any further discussion on the matter.
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I guess it would be my Buck 110 and my SAK super tinkerer because thats what I always have in my pocket.
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.... It's just some folks talking about what knives they love and would like to take with them if they knew they might be the last knives they would handle. We are on a knife forum. Bullshitting 'bout knives is essentially our entire pass-time here
:thumbup: "it's supposed to be fun"
Haha, it's funny how many people seem to forget that! ...Why join BLADEforums only to talk about what you shouldn't do with knives, or why you shouldn't buy them, or to tell people knives are stupid so just use saws and guns or whatever?!?
Iboschi.... this is a fun excercise for MOST of us knife lovers, I like these kinds of treads. It makes you think, and gives an excuse to talk about our favorite blade choises, which is what it's all about here ...right?
Speeking of knives heres another pic of my two choices..
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Roll your eyes all you want dougo,
Now explain how bugging out to your local woods is one bit different from camping normally in your local woods. Why would you need different steel, still makes zero sense to me. Chris
Bugging out doesn't necessarily mean going to the same place I go camping. In fact, it may mean that I have to GTFO of an urban area. Or it could mean there has been some major natural disaster that requires a different skill set. For example, there is a massive fault line down the middle of the U.S. that has been inactive for waay too long. If that baby goes some day, those of us down here in TX will be experiencing our first earthquake...EVER. That's a little different than "camping," don't ya think? The Mora 510 and SAK Farmer won't do to well if I have any need to make my way through an urban sprawl that has been hit by something like that. I found this out when I did rescue after Ike. "Bugging out" is not "camping," which is a recreational exercise. When I set foot in the woods to camp, I am there to relax and mess around. I know what to expect. I know what I will encounter and I prepare accordingly. "Bugging out" means TSHTF and you need to get out NOW and don't necessarily know what you are going to encounter. The point is: what knife will you grab when you DON'T know what's out there? For me, and many others, that is a different set of tools. The same goes for guns. If I have to bug out, I am not going to take my 30-06, despite being incredibly proficient. Instead, I am going to go for versatility, so I'll be packing my 12-ga. Same goes for my pack. If I am hiking/camping, I take a small pack and carry only what I need. If I am "bugging," I am taking a larger pack where I have room to stow additional gear I may come across. This is especially true when we speak of the "Mad Max" scenarios where I may need something of value to trade for something else. For all practical purposes, though, "bugging out" is largely assumed to be for a few days until order is returned. Even still, my gear will be different from my daily carry. This is how it is every day. I do not carry the same knives to work that I do to school that I do to church that I do when I am out and about. Part of it is purely for the fun of using new toys, but it is also based on practicality.
Besides, it is just a mental game/exercise, don't get all worked up if you can't do it...just don't play along if it's no fun.
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Say your house is on fire and you have to bug out, and the knife(knives) you choose will likely be all that you have for a long time. Not hard to figure out,
play along or move along.
Anyway,
#1 - maybe my ka-bar BK7, its a sort of do it all sort of blade, it can chop ok, baton well, and still not too tip heavy it cant slice well, for me.
#2 - Sak OHT (if not a multi tool) and a GB SFA or felling axe.
If the sak isn't allowed, then my bark river fox river.