Who else uses a scythe?

Yup! Those are imported by Seymour. I'll be getting some of those in addition to the standard American patterns. Fux also seems to make a few blades with "American" tangs. The narrow tang allows a wider range of hafting angles.
 
The muffler clamp worked perfectly- the scythe dont :p I don't know if the snath is too short, the hang of the blade isn't right or the handlers are in the wrong positions (I put them pointing the same way the blade is), but the scythe don't feel right. Doesn't cut grass as crisply as my fabricated snath and the point would often hit the ground... The blade was sharp by the way, honed it before I went out. Any ideas as to where I went wrong?
 
I'll snap some pics tomorrow If I cant get it sorted out. I changed the handles around and honed it, will try again tomorrow and see if it helped. I think I had to handles too "closed" (towards the ground) and too close together as well. Standing the scythe up it comes just under my chin, which seems to be correct(?).
 
I'll snap some pics tomorrow If I cant get it sorted out. I changed the handles around and honed it, will try again tomorrow and see if it helped. I think I had to handles too "closed" (towards the ground) and too close together as well. Standing the scythe up it comes just under my chin, which seems to be correct(?).

With the head of the scythe resting vertically on the ground the first nib should come to the hip socket. Then place your elbow on the bottom nib with your fingers outstretched. The second nib should go right where your fingertips reach. From there, adjust the rotated position of the nibs so that when both nibs are held in the "ready to use" position the blade is resting in a balanced position on its spine. If your balance is off (mostly determined by the rotation of the lower nib) then your approach to the cut can be thrown off. Hope that helps! :)

Sorry, the first vid. I think I need one now!

Seriously, once you get one properly tuned up and try it out there's nothing more satisfying than feeling the grass fall under the blade. I've been trying to find excuses to mow more areas around the property. :p
 
Scythe mows better. I changed the positions of the handles and tweaked the blade a bit. Starting to get the hang of it helps too :p
 
That it does! For starting out, I suggest a relatively "closed" hafting angle. It shortens your swath a little, but increases the bite of the blade. Oh, and don't forget to post pics if you get the chance! :D:thumbup:
 
In illustration No. 6 a demonstration is given of cutting a 11 feet sward of lucerne at the point of entering the crop. Both arms are outstretched fully with the swing to the right. The point of the scythe blade must lie in a straight line with the heel of the right foot when the first movement is made, and on finishing the swing the blade is in line with the heel of the left foot. The left hand kept on the handle must be opposite the left hip-joint and maintained firmly in this position during the progress of the blade in the swing round, until finished. This position should be rigidly maintained. To allow it to get lower or higher, the point of the blade gets out of line and sticks in the ground. It may result in snapping it. If the left hand be permitted to extend away from the body the blade will drag and fail to cut.

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The illustration No. 7 gives a full view of the mower finishing the swing on a 11 feet sward, or completing the cut. Here we notice the handle of the scythe and its relationship to the body and heel of the mower. The mower's toe on the left foot is raised on entering the sward, and as the blade swings round the cut is finished with the toe raised on the right foot.

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These positions are distinct and correct; but in No. 8 we have evidence of the false or awkward position of the mower, in which he cuts a false, poor, or chopping sward only 4 to 6 feet wide.

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A class of students is at work in No. 9. The cut is an average of 10 ft. 6 in. of lucerne. The crop was 18 inches long. They worked from 7:30 to 11:30 a. m. and 1 to 5 p.m., and each student averaged 2-1/2 acres per day after a week's practice with the scythe. An expert mower of mature age would cut from 4 to 4-1/2 acres in the same time.

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After securing the correct idea of setting a scythe blade to meet the needs of the ground and crop, it is important to note that the handles are placed in correct position to ensure a well-balanced movement. In each case the handle for the right hand should be so transfixed and adjusted that, when taken up on the index finger, it will balance and hang evenly. To keep the blade in true cutting order, a scythe stone is used, and it is in these operations of sharpening proper dexterity is essential. A sharp, fine-grained stone should be selected. To sharpen the blade place the point in the grass on the left-hand side, grasp the heel firmly with the palm of the left hand, and with the right work the scythe stone, which is about 14 inches long. Make sliding strokes downwards on each side alternately with the stone. Keep it flat on the blade and avoid turning the edge. The last stroke of the stone should always be on the side which hugs the sward. When using the stone slide the hand halfway down the blade and rest the elbow against the blade to keep it rigid. The sliding strokes downwards acts on the edge of the blade and converts it into a series of minute teeth like a saw and provides a keen cutting edge. The sharpening operation commences at the heel and proceeds evenly downwards until the point is approached ; when the blade has to be raised and supported to sharpen the final few inches, the strokes are shorter and sharper with the stone. Care should be taken to effect sharpness on the point. Pass the thumb gently along the whole edge of the blade to ascertain if the edge be equally keen all through.

In No. 10 we see the operation in its various stages.

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--quoted from
Agricultural gazette of New South Wales, Volume 17 (Google eBook)
New South Wales. Ministry of agriculture, 1908
http://books.google.com/books?id=njALAQAAMAAJ&dq=scythe%20lessons&pg=PA263#v=onepage&q=scythe%20lessons&f=false
 
I came across that excerpt from the 1906 publication the other day and have to say that while they're cutting a broad swath, their snaths are very poorly fitted to them. While there is a slight bend at the waist (while maintaining a straight back) you should not have to stoop to place the blade in the proper position. Your back will suffer if you don't have your scythe fitted to function while you are nearly upright. :eek:
 
Mine was flattening a lot of grass.. I think I need to thin the edge down a bit and hone it up really nice. Something tells me my "Quick and dirty" tune ups in the field (pun intended!) fattened the edge up and hindered the slicing action.. I have a little grinder that is basically a hand powered bench grinder.. should work nice to fit the curve of the blade.
 
AH!!! Don't use the grinder!!! :eek::eek::eek:

If you must use something aggressive, use a round file (like a chainsaw file) fitted with a piece of leather or rubber as a guard in case you slip. In-field touch ups could be doing it, but also it could be technique. Light grass can be difficult because it isn't very forgiving of any little flaws in the approach of the blade. I find that when I'm flattening grass I'm usually a little out of synch with my arm movements.

Field touchups with an American scythe shouldn't be all that frequent unless you're hitting wire, rocks, or taking the tops off hillocks.

Scroll to page 382 of this excellent publication. It ought to help. This fellow seemed VERY well informed on the subject.
 
Yeah I've been reading up on his chapter on land drainage. He seemed to have had lots of hands-on experience with constructing land drains and with all the big flat rocks in my compacted clay soil I ought to be able to make some similar to what he describes. Muddy pasture SUCKS. :p

Seriously, though, if this book were still in print I'd buy it in an instant. It's pure gold.

Looks like it actually IS still in print! Amazon has a reprint available! Totally getting it.
 
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Whats the deal with using a hand powered grinder? Is it the hollow edge you don't want? To clarify, it is a HAND powered grinder NOT an electric grinder. I wouldn't use one of those on tempered steel, tend to ruin tempers.
 
The reason why you don't want to use one of those grinders (I have on myself) is that in my experience they tend to cause a blade to skip, and the amount of effort you have to exert to operate the stone will make it VERY difficult to hold the blade steady. If you go slow and have a good fine wheel on it--and are confident that you'll be able to hold the blade steady--then go for it, but the kind of grindstones traditionally used for scythes were treadle-operated large grindstones, and often one person would operate the stone while the other used it.

I used a 1x30 belt sander on mine (with a 15 micron belt), and don't feel I could have done the job right without the use of both hands to hold the blade at a uniform angle. When using a round file or whet stone, the blade would still be mounted on the snath which would be stood on its small end, and thus helps hold the blade at a steady and consistent angle for you.

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Yes--a half-round would do fine. Amazing how much better they cut when you thin it out right, huh? :)
 
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