who here can can add serrations to a knife?

you should look into dark ops knives if you like the tops knife they would be perfect for you. .http://www.knifeworks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=1234 here are a few pics.
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Those serrations on the top are a sawback - like the teeth on a circular saw blade or a field saw. The slit in the middle of the blade is a blood groove - used to either reduce front end weight and improve balance, or, appeal to a certain type of customer because of the look (think "Rambo"). A sawback is pretty much useless for cutting cord and rope and is meant more for sawing through small trees and limbs (which you could just as easily chop with a decent blade).
 
yeah those special ops blades are pretty cool.

hmm i dont think i need the big saw, the little serrations are fine.

so i guess im back to either the ka-bar with serrations.

or the ontatrio with the cooler handle and i have serrations added into it. any ideas on who to call tomorrow for a pice quote on serrations?
 
Agoutihead

Since no one else has answered your question, I thought I would take a shot.

Considering that the knife in question is relatively inexpensive, why not try it yourself?

If the blade was unhardened, you would just use chainsaw and triangular files.
Since the blade is already heat treated, you cannot use a normal file.

The tools you use must be harder that the blade steel.
A grinding wheel on a Dremel tool comes to mind.( don’t allow the steel to get too hot )
Although power tools allow you to work faster, mistakes will happen in the blink of an eye too.

Shop around your local importer like harbour freight, Princess auto, Wal-Mart…
I have found carbide/diamond grit abrasive sharpening rods very cheaply.

Find a pattern you like on another blade-assuming this is not a problem
When buying tools, see if the tool fits the shape of the groove

The biggest issues are to:
1. keep the same angle
2. keep the same spacing
3. keep the same depth


If you are highly skilled in filing handwork, this is not a problem.
However since you asked the question this is likely not the case.

Keep the same angle
Try to setup the rod similar to a Lanskey sharpener setup
Use your imagination; you can make this as simple or as complex as you want to

Keep the same spacing
Using a plain steel rod the same diameter as the abrasive rod, put something between the two rods at each end and tape the two rods together.
Let the plain rod ride in the first groove you have filed……and so on

Keep the same depth
Eyeball it
Or
Measure and layout lines so all filed grooves meet the same line
Stick a piece of tape on the blade and use it as a reference point.

Steve
 
the two knives i listed have full tangs dont they? i thought thats pretty standard on fixed blades?

doing it myself is not an option. im not good with my hands, and i need perfection to be happy.

so, is there any commercial company that can easily add them in for me?
 
FWIW, factory serrations are usually done after heat treating. They use a grinding wheel (wet cooled I'd imagine) that's dressed to the profile of the serrations and just cut them all at once.

-d
 
Cutting rope.....I guess thats what serations were supposed to be for.
My thought is that if you have a good heat treat and a proper edge you shouldnt have any problem cutting rope with a plain edge. I can see no practicle pourpose for serations in a camping situation except maybe to cut rope or string, but again if you have a sharp knife this should not present a problem.
I have a knife that I use for work(not one of mine)....it has serations on it and I wish it didn't.
Just my 2 cents.
Mace

PS. I think the only way you will get these on your knife is to do it yourself.
Good luck.
Mace
 
Mace said:
My thought is that if you have a good heat treat and a proper edge you shouldnt have any problem cutting rope with a plain edge. I can see no practicle pourpose for serations in a camping situation except maybe to cut rope or string, but again if you have a sharp knife this should not present a problem.


PS. I think the only way you will get these on your knife is to do it yourself.
Good luck.
Mace
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Ditto & Ditto. Except I know how to spell practical, purpose, and serrations correctly.:D
 
I'm not a big fan of serrations. However, lots of folks are, so I'm interested in it.
Adding serrations to a finished knife absolutely can be done. Doing it yourself will involve some practice and patience. Having it done by a custom maker will involve some cash, because of the labor (time) and skill. $50 to have it done seems like a very reasonable quote to me.
 
Serrations have there place, anybody who says different probably hasn't been in an enviroment where they were neccessary. Try cutting a 2 inch diameter nylon hawser with a plain edge! I have, and can tell you that it will beat a plain edge to death. I don't care who makes it, heat treats it or what steel its made of. I have had a bunch of great knives in my life, but when it comes to synthetic rope, give me the biggest serrated spydie out there.

Rick
 
Ever seen one of these.
Busse might add the serrations for you.
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Mr. Purple, Your comments do not go un-noticed. I have jus put a chek marc nex yur name in mi blak boook. Ya bastid!:D

Rj, 2" of anything can be a challenge, but not something that most will encounter on a camping trip. I think the problem lies w/ people not knowing how to properly sharpen and maintain a knifes edge.

I wonder why ALL the top cutting compitition knives have zero serrations?
Most of those cut a lot more than 2" of rope....(even one of mine:thumbup: )
Granted....I understand we all can't carry 15" cutters w/ us everyplace we go.
I think more than not it is the "cool" factor that attracts folks to serrations.

agoutihead, why don't you take the $50.00 and buy yourself a good stone instead.;)
Mace
 
How much would you pay to have those serrations added? Just curious..............

We're talking what, say, 3" of serrations? If you're buying a $36 knife do you think someone here is going to cut these for less then $12/$15 an inch? You're up to $70 already.

Seems like you could spring for a better knife with the serrations to start with and save a lotta pain IMHO.

Syn
 
Mace said:
agoutihead, why don't you take the $50.00 and buy yourself a good stone instead.;)
Mace
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But den it wouldnt b 1337 uber tacticool dawgz. He's out to make the most awesomest mall ninja knive everz. He's talking serrations, a custom heat treat, custom trench knife handle (knuckles), etc, and all for under $100. There was a pretty significantly sized thread in the general discussion forum until it was shut down because it wasn't going anywhere. The same thing is going to happen here.

For anyone doubting what I said- did you see his reaction to the Dork Ops knives?
yeah those special ops blades are pretty cool.
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If you can't keep a straight edged knife sharp enough to cut what you cut, then a serrated edge will be great for about 3 cuts... then you will need to know how to sharpen a straight edge and a serrated edge. The entire reason for my interest in knives is because, at the time I could not sharpen anything, and the knives I purchased would get dull after every use.

The answer to these problems were simple for me... first buy a knife that is worth a $hit. This is not a knife one can find at Wal Mart. More than likely you will not even find it at Cabelas or any other store of this caliber. If you want a great knife, buy one from our makers for sale area. And no, I'm not selling any, so I say this with no greedy intentions. There is no substitute for a knife made with quality skill and made with quality steel... I would not trade a thousand $hitty knives that are razor sharp for one quality knife.
 
Mace,
I realize people wont run into 2 inch stock on a camping trip, you asked why anyone would have serrations, I am giving you a real world example why. Cool factor has nothing to do with it. Personally, I think they are ugly as hell, but they do the job.
Cutting comp knives are built to the task that they do. If the contest was cutting thick synthetic line all day long, they would be built with serrations i bet. If you come to necka's thing on the 26th, I'll bring some of the synthetic stuff I used at work. You can give it a go with both kinds of edges and make your own analysis.

Rick
 
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