Who Makes The Best Stockman?

You can look at a S&M Stockman, here. I think they are about the best value today being ATS-34 steel.......
 
d.parker said:
You can look at a S&M Stockman, here. I think they are about the best value today being ATS-34 steel.......
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Nice but what I have read before is that only the main blade is ATS-34 and not all them. Correct?

Once again, even though it may not be a true stockman (since it isn't a serpentine pattern), I still think the GEC #53 cuban is a great stockman like knife. Very well made.

I don't have any Queen stockman knives so I would have to say the old Case stockman knives would follow with the Schrade 1095 8OT being a favorite as well.
 
texasflyfisher said:
Nice but what I have read before is that only the main blade is ATS-34 and not all them. Correct?

Once again, even though it may not be a true stockman (since it isn't a serpentine pattern), I still think the GEC #53 cuban is a great stockman like knife. Very well made.

I don't have any Queen stockman knives so I would have to say the old Case stockman knives would follow with the Schrade 1095 8OT being a favorite as well.
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I was told by Queen all blades in 1999 were ATS-34, only main blades in 2000 were ATS-34. I don't really know for sure, just what I was told...

To me the 99 S&M are still a great knife.....
 
d.parker said:
I was told by Queen all blades in 1999 were ATS-34, only main blades in 2000 were ATS-34. I don't really know for sure, just what I was told...

To me the 99 S&M are still a great knife.....
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That '99 Stockman is one of my favorite production knives! :cool::thumbup:
 
d.parker said:
You can look at a S&M Stockman, here. I think they are about the best value today being ATS-34 steel.......
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IIRC only the "File & Wire" designated S&M's have ATS-34 blades.
Generally, S&M blades are highly polished 420HC.

Also, from talking with folks and looking at the aftermarket, it seems that many don't actually use their Schatt & Morgans ;). The freakin' things are just way too pretty.
They sit on the end table or desk, maybe get some very light use opening envelopes and such, then end up traded, or on eBay, or passed on to the next generation.
 
rifon2 said:
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IIRC only the "File & Wire" designated S&M's have ATS-34 blades.
Generally, S&M blades are highly polished 420HC.

Also, from talking with folks and looking at the aftermarket, it seems that many don't actually use their Schatt & Morgans ;). The freakin' things are just way too pretty.
They sit on the end table or desk, maybe get some very light use opening envelopes and such, then end up traded, or on eBay, or passed on to the next generation.
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The Series IX (1999 I believe) knives quoted by Darrel were ATS-34 and I'm only sorry that I didn't pick up a couple of others to go along with the stockman.

S & M changed their policy re ATS-34 the following year and in subsequent years returned to lesser (stainless) steels but for the File & Wire editions. A lamentable decision imho but not mine to make.
I vote with my $ however.

Oh, and that stockman sharpens up excellently, minor scratches notwithstanding. :cool:
 
Blues said:
The Series IX (1999 I believe) knives quoted by Darrel were ATS-34 and I'm only sorry that I didn't pick up a couple of others to go along with the stockman.

S & M changed their policy re ATS-34 the following year and in subsequent years returned to lesser (stainless) steels but for the File & Wire editions. A lamentable decision imho but not mine to make.
I vote with my $ however.

Oh, and that stockman sharpens up excellently, minor scratches notwithstanding. :cool:
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I'm thus very glad that I prefaced my previous post with "IIRC".

Thanks, Blues, for the clarification. Very helpful & useful info. :cool:
 
I don't know about that one. I've never seen a stockman with half stops.
I do know that the Cattle King does not.
 
This thread is like the supposed mermaids that lured mariners of old to crash upon on the rocks. The really nice stockmen lure me away from my supposed goal.....an hence my funds would be unavaliable. Those S+Ms are really nice as are most everything shown. In an effort to bolster my lagging spirit I dug down and brought up what I consider the ''best" of the current Buck Stockman world. I was not digging in past but what could be bought today. In my humble opinion this is the best Buck has to offer in the stockman world. This is a better photo than the group photo shown earlier.
303, Cadet, 3 blade, Jigged waterbuffalo, Bos 420HC, Polished as much as Buck has ever polished a production knife. have one on shelf, one in pocket. I EDC two fancy knives, a 86 stag 303 and this one. My fancy knives for fancy times. 300Bucks
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Blues said:
The Series IX (1999 I believe) knives quoted by Darrel were ATS-34 and I'm only sorry that I didn't pick up a couple of others to go along with the stockman.

S & M changed their policy re ATS-34 the following year and in subsequent years returned to lesser (stainless) steels but for the File & Wire editions. A lamentable decision imho but not mine to make.
I vote with my $ however.

Oh, and that stockman sharpens up excellently, minor scratches notwithstanding. :cool:
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I too wish S&M would use a better steel on their knives.
That would shift an excellent knife into even better!

What is odd, is that Queen moved to D2, but S&M did not make a move...
 
rifon2 said:
The one I have (with Birdseye Maple scales) does not have half stops.
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All my Queen #26 do have "1/2 stops".

They are soft and do not snap to a fixed 1/2 stop position.
The 1/2 stop is where the blade does not move, which is a pause from the spring pressure and then the spring takes over to the final opening.

The Dogleg snaps to a 1/2 stop.
 
That Dogleg has a very tidy half stop, it needs to as the snap is canine!

Does the CASE Large Stockman have half stops?
 
neeman said:
All my Queen #26 do have "1/2 stops".

They are soft and do not snap to a fixed 1/2 stop position.
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But I wouldn't call that a true "half stop". :cool:
To me, a true half stop is when the blade sort of "snaps" to a full "stop" at the half way closed point.
 
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