Who Makes The Highest Performance CPM-3V On The Market Today?

No fighting here, brothers. We’re all homeboys.

I wanna see some other knife do “prison stuff” to a Busse. Betcha it might come away “not unscathed”.

Busse and kin didn’t build their rep for being clunker crap. Neither did CPK, but their rep has much less years of paid dues.
 
sidewayyys said:
Ive abused Busse and CPK for years and Busse has held an edge better. That being said Busse has thicker edge angles so not fair to compare.....

I love CPK.

But ill always take Busse for abuse.

Also, like petey said... warranty.
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CPK doesn’t have a lifetime unconditional warranty? I always thought they did.🤔

Some of my Busse knives I’ve put to tasks with “I know it’s stupid, but Jerry said it’s guaranteed no matter what…” in the back of my mind.

When I got my Basic 9 I alternated between using it with wild abandon and outright trying to break it. It’s held up just fine for 24 years and is in my son’s possession to continue the legacy of brutality.
 
AntDog said:
CPK doesn’t have a lifetime unconditional warranty? I always thought they did.🤔

Some of my Busse knives I’ve put to tasks with “I know it’s stupid, but Jerry said it’s guaranteed no matter what…” in the back of my mind.

When I got my Basic 9 I alternated between using it with wild abandon and outright trying to break it. It’s held up just fine for 24 years and is in my son’s possession to continue the legacy of brutality.
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Nathan the Machinist said:
The CPK rough use warranty:
If your knife ever fails for any reason, short of intentionally breaking it, I will replace, repair or refund. Broken tips are repointed. Broken scales are replaced with the material of my choosing.
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#notNathan, hopefully I am not quoting him out of context - but he doesn't offer the hard use warranty for all his knives for example, the DEK3.
To make it an any sort of meaningful comparison, the knives have to be closest in thickness, edge angle etc...or better still compare 2 blanks identical in all dimensions and run them through a cutting course or something similar. My money is on the CPK.
 
Seedy Lot said:
Maybe they both have figured out a 10 percent performance increase...

Cowboy up! The reality is pretty much all of you will never be able to distinguish different ht given same exact profile from different makers with their optimized heat treats.
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I have found this to be true except in the most extreme of circumstances. For example, pitting Dozier D2 against chinesium “D2”. They’re completely different animals. Dozier’s D2 farts rainbows.

I wouldn’t think CPK and Busse Combat 3V would be all that different. They both seem to have dead nuts heat treat protocols.

In the case of equal materials and comparable heat treats it’ll all boil down to geometry… and lets face it - it’ll be like a Ferrari (CPK) vs. a Hummer (Busse).
 
vkp78 said:
Of course, handle comfort etc is not addressed by my suggestion above. As far as CPK Hummers go...HDMC, DEK2 and the upcoming FBFK
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This struck me as funny because I’ve talked to lots of CPK guys who were like “well, on the 3rd iteration of the HMNDEK2 they changed the choil and the handle radius and increased the overall length by .5mm. Plus they added hand buffed llama fur micarta as a handle material option and moonbeam exposed titanium hardware.”🤓

But then say they can’t get into Busses because they can’t keep up with all the nomenclature.🤣
 
AntDog said:
This struck me as funny because I’ve talked to lots of CPK guys who were like “well, on the 3rd iteration of the HMNDEK2 they changed the choil and the handle radius and increased the overall length by .5mm. Plus they added hand buffed llama fur micarta as a handle material option and moonbeam exposed titanium hardware.”🤓

But then say they can’t get into Busses because they can’t keep up with all the nomenclature.🤣
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https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/cpk-encyclopedia.1685908/
 
Busse/Swamprat SR101 choppers are great. I like the DT12. I prefer SR101 over Infi. I have never been able to damage the edge of SR101 with any chopper tasks. I think 3V would perform even better in a chopper than SR101 or Infi. I am looking forward to my Light Chopper from CPK. I’m sure it will be a high performance chopper. A little less thickness behind the edge and narrower edge angles will be nice. I think if Jerry thinned his edges out a little bit. I could refrain from trying to destroy the knife and enjoy it’s cutting ability.
 
AntDog said:
I wouldn’t think CPK and Busse Combat 3V would be all that different. They both seem to have dead nuts heat treat protocols.

In the case of equal materials and comparable heat treats it’ll all boil down to geometry… and lets face it - it’ll be like a Ferrari (CPK) vs. a Hummer (Busse).
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I own blades from both companies. I've never ran my swords from either through abuse tests, but I do use their smaller fixed blades. I do know that I find CPK's ergonomics to fit my hand a lot better. I've also seen people hit bolts and metal during bad cuts with a CPK that resulted in no edge damage.
 
ferider said:
So, who here has actually used both SR-3V and CPK's Delta ? Just wondering, since there are not too many SR-3V knives around. E.g., who has compared an RMD with a BFK ?
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I have owned both. The 3V Ratmandu and the BFK very similar in size. I really like both knives. I couldn’t say if one steel was better. I’m sure they are both great. The difference I could tell was in the edge geometry. The BFK was a better all around cutter for this reason. The Ratmandu was a little more bombproof for the same reason. I give the edge to BFK.
 
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