Who Makes The Highest Performance CPM-3V On The Market Today?

sidewayyys said:
What a lopsided comment. Let me point out some flaws.

1) All knives fail. Nathan has said similar comments regarding this like on his K20 telling you its a weapon and a sword, not for woods use etc. I personally damaged the edge on my friends brand new HDFK when they first came out simply batoning some red gum.

2) Regarding your warranty issue. Sounds like you asked for a service. Not a warranty claim. Busse does have an unconditional warranty as proven by many (including myself)

3) JoeX test is retarded, and also not a fair comparison. 10" blade Busse vs a 5" blade CPK. Broke while chopping. Heard of inertia?

4) Busse has never entered a bladesport comp.

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I’m curious about number 4. Wonder why they haven’t?
 
Wishfulthinker580 said:
I’m curious about number 4. Wonder why they haven’t?
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Can't speak for Jerry, but my take is if you've made your name in COMBAT, then why play games slicing pool noodles, drinking straws, and playing with goof...I mean golf....balls?

It might dilute your brand. Maybe? I'm not an operator myself, either. 🤷‍♂️

Wonder why so many makers don't provide blades for the Armed Forces?
 
Well, from what I've seen, the CPK's can whittle a hair, and survive a destruction test. Right from the maker. No modifications needed. I've seen Busse's whittle a hair too. But that was after being modified. But they failed the destruction test faster than the CPK.
 
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PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Can't speak for Jerry, but my take is if you've made your name in COMBAT, then why play games slicing pool noodles, drinking straws, and playing with goof...I mean golf....balls?

It might dilute your brand. Maybe? I'm not an operator myself, either. 🤷‍♂️

Wonder why so many makers don't provide blades for the Armed Forces?
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Have they really made their name in combat? Or is this a Steven Seagal situation? Let’s be honest, the amount of people who have actually used a knife in hand to hand combat in the modern era is minuscule and I’m assuming Busse would be a mere fraction of that. Big difference between taking one on deployment and actually using one. Granted I don’t know their full history but my view in this post stands. From what I can tell Busses either don’t get used at all or they get used as a splitting wedge. To be fair that probably goes for most makers in that category. The overwhelming majority of owners of “combat” knives have got to be hobbyists so making a name in combat is sort of a stretch. Don’t get me wrong, knife cosplay is fun but let’s not be delusional. I assume there are makers represented in competitions other than CPK. Just wondering why Busse isn’t(?) one of them.

On the topic of stuff intended for combat, I remember watching an RMJ video on one of their hawks. The guy said something like the following “it’s always the same story (speaking of users in the military) they are going door to door and in close quarters, they get into a wrestling match with a bad guy and can’t run their rifle and resort to the hawk”. Watching that I couldn’t help but think, wow it’s always like that is it? It probably has happened. No denying that. But come on just be real. Over the top marketing is one of my pet peeves I guess. Especially if it’s based on bravado/machismo.
 
Wishfulthinker580 said:
Have they really made their name in combat? Or is this a Steven Seagal situation? Let’s be honest, the amount of people who have actually used a knife in hand to hand combat in the modern era is minuscule and I’m assuming Busse would be a mere fraction of that. Big difference between taking one on deployment and actually using one. Granted I don’t know their full history but my view in this post stands. From what I can tell Busses either don’t get used at all or they get used as a splitting wedge. To be fair that probably goes for most makers in that category. The overwhelming majority of owners of “combat” knives have got to be hobbyists so making a name in combat is sort of a stretch. Don’t get me wrong, knife cosplay is fun but let’s not be delusional. I assume there are makers represented in competitions other than CPK. Just wondering why Busse isn’t(?) one of them.

On the topic of stuff intended for combat, I remember watching an RMJ video on one of their hawks. The guy said something like the following “it’s always the same story (speaking of users in the military) they are going door to door and in close quarters, they get into a wrestling match with a bad guy and can’t run their rifle and resort to the hawk”. Watching that I couldn’t help but think, wow it’s always like that is it? It probably has happened. No denying that. But come on just be real. Over the top marketing is one of my pet peeves I guess. Especially if it’s based on bravado/machismo.
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Busse has produced knives for the military for years..................
 
azwelke said:
Well, from what I've seen, the CPK's can whittle a hair, and survive a destruction test. Right from the maker. No modifications needed. I've seen Busse's whittle a hair too. But that was after being modified. But they failed the destruction test faster than the CPK.
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You are really good at making trash comments that dont make any sense.

There have been hundreds, maybe more, models made from Busse. How many thousands of knives out of their shop.

You are saying NONE of them could whittle a hair without being modified? I bet there are a few on their website right now that could i.e those would a stock thickness of .090"......


In regards to destruction, Nathan himself has videos comparing INFI to 3V hammering through nails with the same edge angles.

Ill link it here.




Lets not talk about JoeX super scientific retard test with two completely different knives.
 
Wishfulthinker580 said:
Have they really made their name in combat? Or is this a Steven Seagal situation? Let’s be honest, the amount of people who have actually used a knife in hand to hand combat in the modern era is minuscule and I’m assuming Busse would be a mere fraction of that. Big difference between taking one on deployment and actually using one. Granted I don’t know their full history but my view in this post stands. From what I can tell Busses either don’t get used at all or they get used as a splitting wedge. To be fair that probably goes for most makers in that category. The overwhelming majority of owners of “combat” knives have got to be hobbyists so making a name in combat is sort of a stretch. Don’t get me wrong, knife cosplay is fun but let’s not be delusional. I assume there are makers represented in competitions other than CPK. Just wondering why Busse isn’t(?) one of them.

On the topic of stuff intended for combat, I remember watching an RMJ video on one of their hawks. The guy said something like the following “it’s always the same story (speaking of users in the military) they are going door to door and in close quarters, they get into a wrestling match with a bad guy and can’t run their rifle and resort to the hawk”. Watching that I couldn’t help but think, wow it’s always like that is it? It probably has happened. No denying that. But come on just be real. Over the top marketing is one of my pet peeves I guess. Especially if it’s based on bravado/machismo.
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I get it.

More practical than tactical.

Well as long as the Army has need of slicing Potatoes in the chow hall, there's always hope for some makers to make inroads for their business model there.
 
sidewayyys said:
Busse has produced knives for the military for years..................
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I get that. If we were talking rifles that would matter more. Unless there are a lot of proven instances of actual use against enemy combatants then the use they see is not much different from what they see (most of the time) outside of a war zone.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Busse hater per se. just have some criticisms about some stuff. I genuinely like some of their models/designs and will probably own one at some point.
 
Wishfulthinker580 said:
I get that. If we were talking rifles that would matter more. Unless there are a lot of proven instances of actual use against enemy combatants then the use they see is not much different from what they see (most of the time) outside of a war zone.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Busse hater per se. just have some criticisms about some stuff. I genuinely like some of their models/designs and will probably own one at some point.
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So you are critising a company that you have never had a knife from. Similar to yoko's comments. lol.


Busse has military contracts. What do you need to satisfy you? A numbered list of how many enemies were slayed in hand to hand combat with a Busse knife before they can call themself BUSSE COMBAT KNIVES? Get out of here lmao
 
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sidewayyys said:
So you are critising a company that you have never had a knife from. Similar to yoko's comments. lol.


Busse has military contracts. What do you need to satisfy you? A numbered list of how many enemies were slayed in hand to hand combat with a Busse knife before they can call themself BUSSE COMBAT KNIVES? Get out of here lmao
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Lol yes that would help 😆

To be fair, my criticisms are easily deduced from afar.
 
sidewayyys said:
You are really good at making trash comments that dont make any sense.

There have been hundreds, maybe more, models made from Busse. How many thousands of knives out of their shop.

You are saying NONE of them could whittle a hair without being modified? I bet there are a few on their website right now that could i.e those would a stock thickness of .090"......


In regards to destruction, Nathan himself has videos comparing INFI to 3V hammering through nails with the same edge angles.

Ill link it here.




Lets not talk about JoeX super scientific retard test with two completely different knives.
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Sideways, that Bushwacker mistress was reprofiled to 18° by Nathan. It didn't come that way. I know because I've had a few of them. And look at that edge. That's not Jerry's edge, that's Nathan's.
You are pretty good at trash talking, taking shots at people here. We are talking about the knives. Not about you, me, or JoeX. You are making yourself look foolish.
I already told you, that I love both makers. But I worship Jesus Christ❤️🙏👑✝️
 
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azwelke said:
Sideways, that Bushwacker mistress was reprofiled to 18° by Nathan. It didn't come that way. I know because I've had a few of them. And look at that edge. That's not Jerry's edge, that's Nathan's.
You are pretty good at trash talking, taking shots at people here. We are talking about the knives. Not about you, me, or JoeX. You are making yourself look foolish.
I already told you, that I love both makers.
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I never said that the Bushwhacker mistress came that way from Busse. I said they had the same edge angles. Nathan says he reprofiled it in the video. I used that video as a reference in response to your claim about edge damage.

I think you are a little slow to catch onto the point.

I havent taken any shots at anyone.

People (some of which havent even owned a Busse knife) are making terrible claims and arguments and im sifting through them and providing evidence.

Its not that deep bro.
 
sidewayyys said:
I never said that the Bushwhacker mistress came that way from Busse. I said they had the same edge angles. Nathan says he reprofiled it in the video. I used that video as a reference in response to your claim about edge damage.

I think you are a little slow to catch onto the point.

I havent taken any shots at anyone.

People (some of which havent even owned a Busse knife) are making terrible claims and arguments and im sifting through them and providing evidence.

Its not that deep bro.
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Sideways, you definitely were taking shots at JoeX, calling him a retard. You told me I was slow at catching on. That makes you a liar.
 
azwelke said:
Sideways, you definitely were taking shots at JoeX, calling him a retard. You told me I was slow at catching on. That makes you a liar.
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I said his test is retarded. There's a difference. I'm sure you could figure that out...unless..maybe...you...are ...retarded???? (Sorry if thats too far, its a joke really)

Catch on brother. Its really not that hard.

Im not a liar either, thanks. You can reference all my comments to see.

(But you said im making a fool of myself, lol)
 
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