Who makes this Remington Barlow?

Shorev83 said:
I'm surprised everyone seems to bash a USA made slipjoint barlow. Does the shield look bad yes , but to bash it and you didn't buy it ? I hope Bear and Sons have great success and get better at building slipjoints, bc let's face the music here people there's only 3 factories left in the USA producing slipjoints. Like my mom used to say to me if you don't have anything nice to say shut your mouth.
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Although I agree about prioritizing american made products. I feel if knife companies don't get honest feedback how are they going to get better. I am a consumer. It is there job to make something that I want to buy. This is a knife forum. This is exactly where people go to discuss such topics. I refuse to give a company a pass on such an iconic release from a legacy brand such as Remington.
 
Alex.Y. said:
I guess we are all just upset that, after magnificent GEC made Remington, brand owner decided to give it to BS this year.
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For me it’s the juxtaposition of the salesmanship of the knife vs. what it actually is. Might as well give it the Ron Popeil treatment. The only path that knife is going to find is from the shelf into the pocket of the uninitiated.

Someone has commented that we should be happy to have 3 slip joint manufacturers in the USA, and stop complaining. That’s fine, but I don’t support the choices of a company merely because they make a knife with my preferred mechanism.

If Bear and Son was the only show it town, I’d stop buying slip joints, start buying machines and learning how to make my own. Do I hope they’ll change their ways? Absolutely… but hope isn’t a plan for the future.
 
ron55 said:
Hey - I saw all of the negative comments here and still bought one. I don't know who made it - it's made in the US, and I'm just a beginner knife collector and I wanted one. Is it the same quality of say a GEC? No. Does the shield look more like a Saturn VI rocket than a bullet? Yes.
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I think, so far, this is the only photo we have to go by. Certainly doesn't look badly finished to my eye, clearly seen a LOT worse knives in my time. Personally, I dislike Barlows with any type of shield but understand the need for it here, the bolster looks a bit over large perhaps. The springs are cut off cleanly, scales look thick and properly finished anyway.

Is the W&T good? Did it arrive sharp? Blade play? Large gaps? Dye even on scales? Feel good in the hand? Blades near he liners? Is it WORTH the money ? Are you pleased with it? (forget others' perceptions here) .

Seems like some people have fallen into an either/or trap.....a) It's US made so I must blindly accept it whatever its shortcomings! b) It comes from Bear & Son ergo it must be a shoddy piece of Bear :poop: and they've no business making this knife, leave it to GEC! (who maybe didn't want to or couldn't do this knife).

Time will maybe tell.
 
EngrSorenson said:
Do I hope they’ll change their ways? Absolutely… but hope isn’t a plan for the future.
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Exactly. B&S have been around over 30 years, and they've been making this barlow from day 1. If they haven't tightened it up in 30 years, they don't have plans to. They have found their niche in the market, and are turning a profit at this level.

I'm sure they know of their reputation. But if they are keeping busy and selling knives and paying their employees salaries, I'm sure they count that as success. And I'm sure they don't intend to ever compete head-to-head with Case or Buck or GEC.
 
EngrSorenson said:
Yeah, you tell ‘um, John!
… oh… wait…
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Sometimes you get good ones and sometimes you get some that need a little help... same can be said about just about any production brand.

Some brands are more consistently good than others, but you usually have to pay for that consistency. If cheap knives are your thing, then "you do you". If expensive knives are your thing, then "you do you". I usually keep my mouth shut about brands until somebody makes puffed-up claims... or the company puts a marijuana shield on them. 🤣

Knives aside, I see a trend for a lot of these newer posters to refer to us all as a bunch of Grumpy Old Men, trying to stifle established members, running down Case (and other) knives, and propping up GEC... It's happening frequently enough to call it an agenda. It doesn't take a genius to know where these ideas are being propagated.

Sorry for dragging this off-topic. :(
 
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Shorev83 said:
I'm surprised everyone seems to bash a USA made slipjoint barlow. Does the shield look bad yes , but to bash it and you didn't buy it ? I hope Bear and Sons have great success and get better at building slipjoints, bc let's face the music here people there's only 3 factories left in the USA producing slipjoints. Like my mom used to say to me if you don't have anything nice to say shut your mouth.
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There are more than three USA production slipjoints makers out there. Just off the top of my head, all of the following make at least one slipjoint model in the USA (and this is not a complete list):
GEC
Case
Bear and Son
Albers
Benchmade
Gerber
Utica

More complete list of US-made traditional knives (includes slipjoints, fixed blades, and lockbacks) on this thread here.
 
Will Power said:
I think, so far, this is the only photo we have to go by. Certainly doesn't look badly finished to my eye, clearly seen a LOT worse knives in my time. Personally, I dislike Barlows with any type of shield but understand the need for it here, the bolster looks a bit over large perhaps. The springs are cut off cleanly, scales look thick and properly finished anyway.

Is the W&T good? Did it arrive sharp? Blade play? Large gaps? Dye even on scales? Feel good in the hand? Blades near he liners? Is it WORTH the money ? Are you pleased with it? (forget others' perceptions here) .

Seems like some people have fallen into an either/or trap.....a) It's US made so I must blindly accept it whatever its shortcomings! b) It comes from Bear & Son ergo it must be a shoddy piece of Bear :poop: and they've no business making this knife, leave it to GEC! (who maybe didn't want to or couldn't do this knife).

Time will maybe tell.
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W&T is ok. Clip blade doesn't snap closed as strong or loud as the pen blade. I'd say average sharpness. Could be a little sharper. Blade play is fine. Sawcut bone handles are near perfect - sub millimeter flaw where one of the pins chipped out part of the surface of the handle - see pic. Feels great in the hand. Noticed that the bolster isn't as perfect as a GEC - a few almost unnoticeable scratches. I may be responsible - I carried it for a day in my pocket. But all in all I'm happy with it.
 
An inexpensive knife can be legitimate and suffer problems of the inexpensive knife variety. Generally I don't consider that a sin.
We have a unique situation regarding the Remington "path finder" barlow, because the price is significantly higher and it hardly feels justifiable.

As the cost increases, so do my expectations.
 
Firstly, thank you to the people that bought it and posted pictures for us to see.

I think I said it before, but last year's model was not cheap, even by GEC prices, same price everywhere.

It was made in large numbers and was available/unsold for many months.

Maybe they decided to go for something cheaper this year that would appeal more to the Remington collector/buyer and less to the knife collector.

It is not cheap compared to other B&S Barlows, but it is still cheaper than the last model

It will be funny if we find out that CASE made it, after all the previous posts :)
 
Jakeywax31 said:
Although I agree about prioritizing american made products. I feel if knife companies don't get honest feedback how are they going to get better. I am a consumer. It is there job to make something that I want to buy. This is a knife forum. This is exactly where people go to discuss such topics. I refuse to give a company a pass on such an iconic release from a legacy brand such as Remington.
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The Remingtons of the past were iconic and legacy, since the 80s Remington knives are hit and miss at best, most not being worth the price. Plus they aren't Remington made. None are classic or "legacy". The Buck made Sawby-designed lockback is the only iconic Remington-branded knife that may have a future as a "legacy knife." The GEC Remington didn't sell as well as most other GEC releases.

The best Remington knife in the last 35 years is Tony Bose's Lockback Hunter, but it's not branded Remington :)
 
Jakeywax31 said:
Although I agree about prioritizing american made products. I feel if knife companies don't get honest feedback how are they going to get better. I am a consumer. It is there job to make something that I want to buy. This is a knife forum. This is exactly where people go to discuss such topics. I refuse to give a company a pass on such an iconic release from a legacy brand such as Remington.
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What’s amusing is the only people that actually have the knife in hand didn’t bash it but yet can “loose all credibility” while people who only see a stock photo on a website apparently know more than them. Honest feedback on the quality of an item you’ve never even seen in person is impossible to do. You can comment on the looks but that’s it unless you’ve actually handled the knife.
 
DustinK said:
What’s amusing is the only people that actually have the knife in hand didn’t bash it but yet can “loose all credibility” while people who only see a stock photo on a website apparently know more than them.
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First off, nobody said anybody lost credibility because of their review of the Remington Barlow.
One poster lost credibility (in my eyes) when he said it was better than ANY Case knife... Given his review of the minor flaws in the knife, there is no way that statement is true. Had nothing to do with the pictures of the knife.
 
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JohnDF said:
First off, nobody said anybody lost credibility because of their review of the Remington Barlow.
One poster lost credibility (in my eyes) when he said it was better than ANY Case knife... Given his review of the minor flaws in the knife, there is no way that statement is true. Had nothing to do with the pictures of the knife.
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Yeah! you tell 'um, John!

I'm concerned that this running gag isn't striking a high enough hyuck-to-offense ratio.
 
I'm thinking now that the Remingtons are made by Old Timer. My Remington knife shield and my Old Timer knife shield have each fallen off their knives days after I bought them. That's more than a coincidence.
 
ron55 said:
I'm thinking now that the Remingtons are made by Old Timer. My Remington knife shield and my Old Timer knife shield have each fallen off their knives days after I bought them. That's more than a coincidence.
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by that logic, Case could have also made it 🤣
 
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