Who would be happy only Civivi or similar knife?

Detroit1980 said:
I completely agree with you on Kershaw autos too. You just can't beat the price for the quality and materials you get and I love that they are American made. I love Protech too but it's just a bummer that the only Protech you can get for a comparable price is the Sprint which is still a great deal, especially because of the S35VN steel but I just wish they could get the prices slightly lower. I'm willing to pay more for S35VN steel but the problem is a lot of Protechs are still using 154cm steel which is a step down from Kershaws CPM-154 that they use on all of their autos.

Spyderco and Benchmade have became less and less appealing to me because Spyderco keeps raising their prices and I feel that companies like Hogue are making Benchmade seem inferior. Even Sog has stepped up their game and could also be a serious threat to Benchmade in the near future.
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Those Hogues are killer! I have two Dekkas, and they are too smooth! I will be a hypocrite and say S20V instead of S30V for less than any G10 Benchmade Axis Lock is great too. As for the Protech Sprint, it is a nice knife, but very thick behind the edge.
 
Detroit1980 said:
This is exactly why Civivi has had and will continue to have a big impact on the market. They make great quality knives that you can feel comfortable to use because you can just buy another if it breaks without thinking twice. You can easily have multiple of the same knife for a backup without breaking the bank too.
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There was a time when I could say that about FRN Spydercos, but even they are getting too expensive, especially the Native.
 
anthony cheeseboro said:
I am here to talk knives, not trade insults. If you want to talk knives, fine. I have no use for people who get off on insulting people behind the screens of their devices. If you honestly had difficulty understanding my first post, it was not because I did not write clearly. I will say no more about that subject.

As for expensive knives, I am a strong believer in diminishing returns. I owned maybe four Chris Reeve knives, and they are a great company that truly stands behind their products. If a person chooses to spend Sebenza money, go for it. They are great knives that certainly hold their value. If having a quality cutting tool is the only goal, I would say buy three Paramilitary 2’s, open one and leave the rest boxed until you wear out each successive knife. If I had done this at about 45, I would probably be just finishing off knife one. The next two would probably last until I was put in the old folks’ home and all really sharp things were taken away from me.
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Try not to get discouraged. I've had the same issues with the same few guys over and over. They always feel like they have to reply to every post and I really think some are just trying to help or have a conversation but some of their replies are insulting. I really hope they aren't meaning to be offensive because that would defeat the main purpose of these forums. Someone really needs to have a talk and tell them to lighten up or this will not be a growing community but a diminishing one.
 
Detroit1980 said:
How are they "better?" Function, looks or both? I think many could argue that G-10 is the overall best material for grip and function. Even the cheaper FRN and plastic that Benchmade and Spyderco use have proven to be better performing knives for grip, function and ergonomics when compared to Titanium and Carbon Fiber.

Most knives that I've handled with Titanium and Carbon Fiber have been more slick and harder to grip. I guess if you're just going for looks and safe queens Titanium and Carbon Fiber will always win but it really depends on user preference and budget and just what someone is willing to spend. I think plenty of people just get tired of spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on brands that keep raising their prices and pumping out higher end materials that people feel unnecessary to fit their needs or wants.
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Bead blasted titanium has a good grip, I hate the snail trails, but that is the price of having a titanium user.
 
Detroit1980 said:
Try not to get discouraged. I've had the same issues with the same few guys over and over. They always feel like they have to reply to every post and I really think some are just trying to help or have a conversation but some of their replies are insulting. I really hope they aren't meaning to be offensive because that would defeat the main purpose of these forums. Someone really needs to have a talk and tell them to lighten up or this will not be a growing community but a diminishing one.
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After 21 years of posting on forums, my philosophy is to be positive. I will not keep dealing with someone who is negative. I can ignore trash talk once it is apparent that trash talk is mainly what someone has to offer.
 
Sonnydaze said:
I question the OP's opinion..."these knives are just as fun to fidget with any Spyderco Compression lock..."
Also, IMO, my wonder steel/titanium/carbon fiber knives are better knives...

Hackenslash mirrored my reasons in part..... Most who oppose these new import brands do so for personal/political reasons. I've owned one Steel Will; it was a decent knife...I sold it.. reference recent Hong Kong activities... Tiananmen square (1989).
p.s. Like Hackenslash, I love my Regular Sebbie...
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What makes a knife fun is pretty subjective, kind of like what makes a woman pretty. Thankfully, makers produce a lot of different knives.
 
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anthony cheeseboro said:
After 21 years of posting on forums, my philosophy is to be positive. I will not keep dealing with someone who is negative. I can ignore trash talk once it is apparent that trash talk is mainly what someone has to offer.
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Well I was just basically trying to give you a heads up that there are a few. I think you've only dealt with 1 so far but they are so obvious because they always like each other's rude posts too.

I honestly don't even know why I'm still here because I feel bad for saying some bad stuff to them because they insulted me. My whole goal of joining here was not to argue with people but to have constructive conversations and share my thoughts. Sorry to get off topic but they always seem to take things off topic. I just hate seeing people get insulted whenever I search these forums.
 
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Detroit1980 said:
Well I was just basically trying to give you a heads up that there are a few. I think you've only dealt with 1 so far but they are so obvious because they always like each other's rude posts too.

I honestly don't even know why I'm still here because I feel bad for saying some bad stuff to them because they insulted me. My whole goal of joining here was not to argue with people but to have constructive conversations and share my thoughts. Sorry to get off topic but they always seem to take things off topic which is fine but I just hate seeing people get insulted whenever I search these forums.
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Hey, I appreciate your kind words.:)
 
anthony cheeseboro said:
I have owned four Civivi knives, and I still have two. My Exarch and Elementum are as well made as most any knife I have owned that was $300 or less. They are just made out of less expensive components in a cheaper labor country. I love titanium and the latest super steel as much as anyone, but I honestly get tired of running after the latest and greatest blade steel. I like titanium, but I can live with a knife that is 3oz. instead of 1.9oz. D2 is fine with me, we all know of very expensive factory and custom knives that have used D2. The bottom line is that I would be very happy if I only had knives the quality of Civvi or CJRB for the rest of my life because they cut well, D2 is reasonably easy to keep stain free, and these knives are just as fun to fidget with any Spyderco Compression lock or Benchmade (or Hogue) Axis lock, or a Zero Tolerance or We (big money Civvi) flipper. I am not dumping my more expensive knives, but my wonder steel/titanium/carbon fiber knives are not better knives, they are just made from more expensive components.
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:) Maybe if they used a lock similar to Cold Steel's Tri-ad . Otherwise ...nope ! :p
 
If I had to cut it down to one Civivi, I’d survive, but I’d be pretty bored. The last knife I bought is the BHQ Elementum “skinny” in S35VN. It’s as well-made as anything I’ve had from WE/Civivi, and for $80, you get a very solid knife in a higher-end steel.
 
I rate the country of manufacture rather low on the scale of important prerequisites for a knife purchase, but I still like to know. There are (for me) far more important issues to get me to spend money than place of manufacture. Quality, aesthetics, price, and ergonomics for starters.

However, companies like Civivi, are making very attractive products at a very attractive price point. Even though the only Chinese manufactured knife I own (apart from a couple of foreign made Bucks) is a Kizer, it is still a nicely made knife. I haven't waded too far into the murky waters of Chinese knives yet, but never say never.

Someone mentioned they would be happy with just the RAT 1 and I would have to agree. Something along that line really is all the knife anyone could argue they "need", but then there would be no Blade Forums, as we would probably spend our time on the "quilters forum" or some such.

As far as the "arguers" is concerned, I have ignored the worst offenders long ago, and am much better for it.
 
I could be happy with just a Civivi. My Baklash has been great, and I just got an Incite and the layered g10/cf looks and feels way more expensive than the price would make you think. The action is great (yea, bearings) and fit and finish is great. I don't mind liner locks, and Civivi does them right.

For 70 bucks I don't think you can do better. You could get a 20cv Kershaw Bareknuckle for that price, but I don't think it's that price anymore. And civivi d2 is apparently really good although I haven't used it yet.

They make great knives at great prices. I'm a fan.
 
anthony cheeseboro said:
Bead blasted titanium has a good grip, I hate the snail trails, but that is the price of having a titanium user.
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I only have one titanium knife but I actually like a knife that's can show you use it and does not stay pristine. I may be in the minority.

I don't own a civivi or artisan/cjrb yet but people seem to love them and they have some really nice designs.
 
ktataragasi said:
I only have one titanium knife but I actually like a knife that's can show you use it and does not stay pristine. I may be in the minority.

I don't own a civivi or artisan/cjrb yet but people seem to love them and they have some really nice designs.
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Actually snail trails are alright once I get used to them, but I always hate the first few scratches.
 
If CIVIVI is a brand made by WE, why not make the thread in the WE sub forum?
I don’t understand why anyone makes a thread in General Knife Discussion and doesn’t expect expect unwanted feedback/opinions. Now, if someone wants unbiased opinions, then GKD is the place to post. But don’t get all butt hurt and defensive when the discussion doesn’t go as planned.
 
I could be, except most less expensive brands tend to consist almost entirely of liner and frame locks. I'm left handed and refuse to buy a knife that's backwards. If it's not fully ambidextrous, including the pocket clip, I'm not interested.
If they offered more lock backs and fixed blades in decent but not top of the line steels, D2, CPM 154, S30V, they could hold my attention for a while.
 
I've been very happy with my Civivi knives. I've owned several now. Civivi offers decent designs, decent action, decent fit and finish, and a decent factory edge that's actually thin behind the edge; and they deliver it in a price range where those qualities really stand out. I always take apart new knives for inspection, cleaning, and quality lubrication. I'm happy to report that Civivi knives tend to ship with clean internals that show attention to detail both inside and out. They've been a breath of fresh air and the new gold standard for budget knives.

My most-carried casual EDC of 2019 was the Civivi Naja. My overall most-carried EDC of 2020 so far is probably the Civivi Chronic. I've been very happy with Civivi's 9Cr18Mov. That's a steel I had previously written off due to bad heat treatments in knives from Schrade and the like. Civivi really blew my mind with their 9Cr18Mov. Performance is on par with a lot of 14C28N I've had. In all honesty, it's good enough for my EDC needs.

Just because their 9Cr18Mov meets my EDC needs, that doesn't mean I don't want nicer things. Lucky for me, Civivi recently put out some special edition Elementums in S35VN. I only just got one but so far, it looks like it'll be retiring my current "church carry". BTW, that was a Massdrop Gent that I'm pretty sure was also made by WE.
 
BHQ Exclusive Civivi Elementum in s35vn will be one of my next knives.


Description
This Blade HQ Exclusive Elementum gets an upgrade to premium CPM-S35VN blade with a black stonewash finish and natural G-10 scales over black stainless steel liners. The blade stock is a little bit thinner, making this knife a legendary slicer!
 
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