Who Would Be Interested In Doing A Collaboration Classic Hunter With Me??

[rlinger]

Doc,

Very helpful of you. We have long since decided on main handle material but I, and I feel all us, appreciate your very kind offer.

Thank you Doc. RL

 

[Dan Gray]

I'll 2nd that

 

[rlinger]

I just got a fantastic looking damascus remnant in the mail from Michael. I can get two to four samples out of it for heat treat trials. I'm glad its not very long. I don't know I could cut it up if it were.

RL

 

[Dan Gray]

Roger you could always make charms out of them
to send with the knife when finished? they could decorate
a display box ??
the same steel as the blade would be cool :footinmou

 

[rlinger]

Dan, I won't discard them. I will be scoring and breaking the test samples so the pieces will be small.

Let us all know when you get the blank. You better wear rubber underware that day . This stuff is real good looking to me. Nick does well, very well.

RL

 

[Dan Gray]

I can't wait to see it..

if you can't or don't want the samples after and no one minds
send them this way when done...

 

[rlinger]

I'll save them for you. Its a done deal.

 

[Dan Gray]

Thanks

 

[Dan Gray]

any news on a profiled blade blake?

 

[Burchtree]

Oops -- sorry Dan, it's sitting on my bench ready to ship. It will be in the mail tonight or tomorrow.

I think I should get the reward for the slowest member here. Sorry or the holdup fellows.

 

[rlinger]

So this knife won't be finished by the first of year after all ???

 

[Dan Gray]

Originally posted by rlinger
So this knife won't be finished by the first of year after all ???

sure it will Roger..
just didn't say which year
No problem just checking

 

[rlinger]

Dan, post a picture of the blank for all us to see, please. Best do it after you drill your tang holes.

I just finished today the only knife I had to make before Christmas, so I am now thinking about getting started on my heat treat experiements of Nick's steel. I need to email Nick again to make sure I understand his recommendation for normalizing. I have one more RWL-34 sample to do first so I better get that done so I can dedicate myself to this beautiful damascus.

RL

 

[Dan Gray]

will do Roger on the pictures

if you could some time,,
once you get a sequence down for the RWL 34
could you do one the very same way, except
put it into a preheated oven for 15 min's
everything else doing the same checking rockwells

warpage doesn't concern me, I can straighten them if need be..

 

[rlinger]

RWL-34: pre-heated at 1950 F. ??

RL

 

[Dan Gray]

opppps
wrong thread Roger
yes pre-heated to 1950 F.
then put it in for 15 Min's

everything else done the same as the last heat treat
without the ramping_ (=ing shorting soak time.)
I'm wondering what the Rockwell difference will be.

if after the snap temper the rock is down, The final
temper will have to be lower I believe.

I'm mainly interested in the Rockwell
after the snap temper
and the Rockwell after the cryo..

it's not a big deal it's just more the way I temper
just comparing to see the difference in rockwells at those stages...
out of your set up..

 

[rlinger]

Yeah, I'll do that. I'll just snap temper and cryo, taking Rc readings for both.

 

[rlinger]

Doing heat treat test on sample of Nick's damascus twist for this knife now, even as I write this. Full details and results tomorrow evening (12/22/03).

RL

 

[rlinger]

I just put the test piece of Nick's twist in deep cryo and felt I should share what I have so far. Because you fellows have entrusted me with the heat treat, which could spoil all our hard work and time if not done properly, I have decided to not just provide details as they occur but to share my corresponce to Nick (ONLY from me to him) about the test and all things relative to it. Below is my latest email to Nick and will update all us here with final test results tommorow evening.

My email to Nick just moments ago:
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Nick,

The sample is in deep cryo. Just finished snap temper (350 F. / 45 minutes) and after still air cooling I grinded off scaling. Tested 60.5 HRc. I got two tests at 60, two at 61 and two at 60.5 HRc. I call it 60.5.

All I really saw under a 10X eye loop was scaling, no pitting and was able to grind off the scaling to what looks like flat surface under 10X magnification with a 220 grit ceramic belt.

After normalizing twice and still air cooling to about room temperature, I removed the steel from the foil packet and ramped to 1200 F. at a rate that took about 25 minutes and soaked at 1200 F. for 5 minutes (equalize). I then ramped at maximum ramp rate to 1450 F. and soaked there for 5 minutes. My oil temperature was at 138 F. and I am positive I got into quench in slightly less than 1 second. At a bit more than oil temperature I placed in pre-heated snap temper.

Please give me your thoughts about the Rockwell I got after snap temper. I am not experienced with HT'ing 1084 and would like to know if you think I am in the ball park so far. After retrieving from cryo tomorrow we will have an idea of how much retained austenite there may have been after quench.

Thanks again Nick. Please advise as you see best.

Roger
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It has been very pleasant to ask Nick for advise on this matter and he has been concise and careful to expand on areas he may think I am not sure about.

Roger

 

[Burchtree]

I meant to post this earlier, but I've been away from the forums all weekend. It's a poor pic, but this is me with the profiled blade before I sent it out to Dan.