Who Would Be Interested In Doing A Collaboration Classic Hunter With Me??

I believe all us should have a chance to see the finished knife and sheath and display case, if we have one. It will cost each of us considerable bucks to ship it back and forth and we should probably limit time in hand to about three days maximum. Ten guys can take over a month just for that but I suggest it is deserved. As an addition, I for one am not overly concerned about time to finish. From a marketing point we have much for us here. There are ten of us and it could go to eleven. We have a Master Bladesmith, a Journeyman Bladesmith and at least three full time makers. If my Pop makes the case we will have another full time maker. There is nothing wrong at all with being able to state (with truth) that it took 2 years to make, from a marketing stand point, and we have been lucky to keep such a size team so well together. I know this team is together and all should end well.

Let's be sure we end up with a knife though.

RL
 
rlinger said:
Dan, you've got mail. It all went out to you today. I included the template in the box. Yes, I will need the template back for final scale and jade contouring.
RL
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opps I jumped the gun,
I sent you a reply before reading this, so it will sound a little redundant Roger
.
did we decide if we were having someone like Jim Weyer,, Weyer International
to do the/some pictures ?
he will send the pictures with an editorial to 8 or 10 knife pub's, I believe this blade
will make it in to most of the those mags by using Jim..some of mine are still being picked up after a couple years
or so.
10 of us chipping in 10 bucks would cover it with S&H ,
done right it could make a full page maybe
or is this wishful thinking on my part? :( naaaa :D

edited to add when Dan K does the paper work he may add the site URL
http://www.knivesby.com/collaboration.html too, so the customer will have play by play on it's making. it wouldn't hurt if sent with the info for pictures either. emails and web sites listed on that page should boost the makers notoriety too. no? yes? :)

anyone heard from Harry? I would have thought the Bolo would would have been done by now the way he talked? :confused:
 
Dan I think that's a great idea, and you can count me in for my share. I'd point out there are other fine photographers out there too, Jim Cooper among the absolute best. He does the submission thing too, and his pics wind up in the publications. Just a thought, I know Weyer is kind of the king... :D
 
We, as part of our team and in the beginning, kinda assumed or agreed that Dan Koster would take the pictures. I believe all us, Dan K. included, would agree that the best is what we want. With that in mind could you please contact Dan Koster and decide this between the two of you. Which ever way you two decide I will guess is satisfactory with the rest, or at the least you have my blessings. In fact if it is the other fellow's I think I would like both - pictures by Dan K. and the other fellow's. I also believe we should have Bruce's advise on this and I am going to say Bruce's advise will over ride my thoughts concerning this. In the mean time, let's remember we don't have a knife yet.

RL
 
rlinger said:
We, as part of our team and in the beginning, kinda assumed or agreed that Dan Koster would take the pictures. I believe all us, Dan K. included, would agree that the best is what we want. With that in mind could you please contact Dan Koster and decide this between the two of you. Which ever way you two decide I will guess is satisfactory with the rest, or at the least you have my blessings. In fact if it is the other fellow's I think I would like both - pictures by Dan K. and the other fellow's. I also believe we should have Bruce's advise on this. In the mean time, let's remember we don't have a knife yet.

RL
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I agree Roger
on both ways,, it can't hurt and will only help us all..
Dan K would make great on pictures to all of us, and a try at submissions if this his plans, it's just the mag submissions I'm worry about , nothing personal with Coop but I've heard nothing bad about Jim and his submissions,, and I believe he does more submissions per picture without extra cost, it's part of his reg, package..
anyone ? please correct me if I'm wrong :( I'm just looking for the best interest in this and us..
 
Dan, I am with you all the way on your marketing concerns. Absolutely, all the way. The best of the best we can get is what we will require to acheive what I am hoping for. But, Dan K. still shoots pictures. That was the deal. It makes little difference whose pictures are the best or who gets us through the biggest door. My interest is that this baby gets the biggest dollars for the contribution we will be giving them to. We still don't have a knife yet.

RL
 
rlinger said:
Dan, I am with you all the way on your marketing concerns. Absolutely, all the way. The best of the best we can get is what we will require to acheive what I am hoping for. But, Dan K. still shoots pictures. That was the deal. It makes little difference whose pictures are the best or who gets us through the biggest door. My interest is that this baby gets the biggest dollars for the contribution we will be giving them to. We still don't have a knife yet.

RL
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I hope it hasn't been thought, that I'm in anyway trying to exclude anyone here , namely Dan...
on the contrary :) adding,, someone like Jim, his name would only be with the Pictures he does..Dan will be billed with the Knife,,
.also to add ,,, the added expose will help sell it of course..
 
rlinger said:
Dan,
The way I sent it to you, is everything okay for what you need to do?
RL
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yes Roger
looks good you did a great job with what you had to work with,
namely the flat surface of the bark. the angles are greatly matched nice job in deed..

Where the Ivory is so thin (because of the Jade thickness) and not being swelled
I'm thinking domed gold plated screws barely counter sunk will work and look very nice, leaving more meat in the ivory to hold down on, allowing more
hole for the alignment/hold down pins to grip..
.the two center pins I wanted and still want at the same length..
so there won't be a problem in mixing them up by the eventual owner

but the tapered tang causes an inherent problem of less meat/ivory left to work with, conserning pin lengths, of course the deeper the hole the more ivory around the pins means less and longer wear, so if need be I'll sacrifice the pin lengths and they will have their designated hole to be in....

Roger did the very best he could with what we have here..nice job Roger..

The biggest thing bothering me right now is, the ivory, just while setting here
is warping and twisting, so I need to bind them and wait for them to do what they will.
since the dove tail is done and the length is set, lets all hope they don't shrink in length much.

before I put the holes in we can slide them down a little
because of the angle of the bolsters effectively making them longer but
if the scales shrink a lot we may have to work the jade down a little more.
which BTW Roger did a great job on also. :)

Roger how long did the ivory dry once you slabed them close to size?.
( I have to ask but thinking not,,, did you use any water on the ivory while working them?)
I'm not sure if the bark is shrinking faster than the back side or the back side is taking on moisture? it seems every time we cut Ivory it will move.. :mad:

I'll bind the ivory and do a series of warm and cold drying, it should speed stabilization up some, if they move much, I'll bake them at about 150 deg mounted to a plate, then do a mineral oil soak..the tapered bolsters will help
hold the Ivory effectively once finished, as long as we stop the shrinking length wise.

anyone have any concerns or other Ideas? I'm cool here :)
this knife will be awesome :D
 
I don't know how long it has been curing. I had that ivory for over 1 1/2 years. No, I do not cool in water. I quench ivory on an aluminum plate and grind it slowely. So I don't know what's going on with it.

RL
 
rlinger said:
I don't know how long it has been curing. I had that ivory for over 1 1/2 years. No, I do not cool in water. I quench ivory on an aluminum plate and grind it slowely. So I don't know what's going on with it.

RL
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I didn't think you would Roger..
ok I'm wondering if it's taking on moisture from the newly cut back side?
and or
as it warmed during grinding, it dried out moisture that was still in it,

warping as you flatten (which you may not notice ) then once done grinding flat after this warping takes place, the moisture creeps back in possibly from the bark side then warps back, :confused: .
I'll deal with it.. :)

BTW I use my hands as a heat sink
if I can't hold it to sink the heat away then I know I'm getting it to hot.
I'm not saying that you got it to hot, :( just a note on how I do it.
 
Just spoke with my pop about the display case. He is most happy to make it if that is okay with the rest of us. Sometime before the new year I can take some pictures of some display cases he has now that he has made and post them here if the other team members are interested. He understands that it would likely have a glass top for viewing and a pull out drawer to access knife and sheath; another pull out drawer below that one for access to the un-folded certificate of origin. He tells me the choices of wood are: eastern black walnut, cherry, and oak. All us that see this please advise as to whether or not you would like the case made by him and also any other recommendations you might have concerning it. I assured him that if he was to make it he would be a full part of the collaboration. In consideration of that there will be no charges from him and he will supply all his needed materials. If there is another wood choice I would think we could figure a way to get him the stock to make it of. Of the three choices he has in stock I am thinking the black walnut would match best with the blue/black ivory and the damascus etch. The oak would give good contrast.

Please advise.

RL
 
rlinger said:
Just spoke with my pop about the display case. He is most happy to make it if that is okay with the rest of us. Sometime before the new year I can take some pictures of some display cases he has now that he has made and post them here if the other team members are interested. He understands that it would likely have a glass top for viewing and a pull out drawer to access knife and sheath; another pull out drawer below that one for access to the un-folded certificate of origin. He tells me the choices of wood are: eastern black walnut, cherry, and oak. All us that see this please advise as to whether or not you would like the case made by him and also any other recommendations you might have concerning it. I assured him that if he was to make it he would be a full part of the collaboration. In consideration of that there will be no charges from him and he will supply all his needed materials. If there is another wood choice I would think we could figure a way to get him the stock to make it of. Of the three choices he has in stock I am thinking the black walnut would match best with the blue/black ivory and the damascus etch. The oak would give good contrast.

Please advise.

RL
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sounds great to me and black walnut sounds good too... :)
 
I'll vote for black walnut too for the reasons Roger stated. I think having two Lingers in this deal is cool. Like bookends. Roger started the collaboration and his father is "wrapping it up," so to speak. Great!
 
ddavelarsen said:
I'll vote for black walnut too for the reasons Roger stated. I think having two Lingers in this deal is cool. Like bookends. Roger started the collaboration and his father is "wrapping it up," so to speak. Great!
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you pund'ed me thinks ;) but your right :)
 
Actually, I have been hesitant because of the fact that I have had so much in it and now here I am suggesting my dad too. The only real reason I do this is because I know what kind of work he does.

I hope the Master chimes in. How does Bruce feel and what ideas does he have for it.

RL
 
Wonderfull, so far. Thanks Bruce and all others that have seen this so far. Pop is thinking a glass top for display purposes with a drawer to pull the knife and sheath out for access and a lower drawer that would contain the unfolded cert.. What we need now, I suppose, is other ideas of design and function should there be any amongst us. BTW, black walnut is my favorite too.

RL
 
Roger, Dave says it very well. I vote for it, and the choice of the dark walnut is great, too. I can understand where you developed your love of wood from, too. Give Pop a good handshake from me, and please tell him thanks for his great help. Hey, you fellas want an ante up for materials or anything, let me know.
 
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