Why Battoning?

Thanks Pitdog!!

Thats the vid i saw - didn't wanna let the cat outta the bag (seem to be alot of Nutnfancy haters...).

In any case, it was an epic fail. Not good.
 
Just as a point of interest I did a search on google this morning and all the broken Mora's I could find had broken maybe a 1/3rd way down the blade, not at the handle, so the stick tang doesn't seem to be a weak link !
 
::cracking up at the broken trailmaster post::

"I've been teaching winter survival skills to a young mens group in our church where I'm a youth leader," he said...

Oh, Bertha... ::still cracking up::


Somebody should have found them a bigger log and a smaller knife.
 
The thing is, for every broken knife thread, there are a lot more threads of knives being battoned that HAVEN'T broken.

As for battoning, to each his own. If you like it, do it. If not, don't.
 

Thanks for posting all of those threads! Here's the Recon Scout thread to add to the list...
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328256

I can't find the post, I think it was one of Cliff's, that observed the most common failure point for splitting wood with a knife and baton was between the wood and handle. You see that in the Recon, the khukuri and the Sypderco.

Many breaks just may be poor technique by twisting or applying pressure to the blade adding stress to this area or poor judgment "biting off more than the blade can handle by attempting to split down the center of a too large diameter that is too great a length.

I've never really needed to split wood with a knife for outdoor fires but it's a pretty handy method for making tools or starting a flat surface.
 
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My Chopweiler ain't gonna be on any " I broke my knife..." thread anytime soon !:D

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I don't baton big stuff much.
It's nice to know I could, but it's a fair amount of effort and hard on the knife.

However, I do frequently split small kindling with a knife.
Sometimes stuff small enough I don't even need a 'baton', just pushing the blade through will do.
It's easy to start fires if you have nice dry matchstick size stuff from the middle of a branch.
 
Ohhh I know (puts hand in the air :D)

If your axe breaks, your knife should still be useable :D



Kind regards
Mick

L.M.A.O. If you break a solid high carbon knife while battoning, there are a few reasons that are probably the cause. 1. You hit a knot, which is easily avoidable.
2. You were battoning on a rock or concrete or some other hard surface and when the log split you beat your knife edge into it.
3. You used a rock to baton ;)
4. You were working with resenous frozen hardwoods in the winter, in which case you're a doofus for not using an axe to begin with.

Not one of these are unavoidable.
 
I wonder how many axes or hatchets have had a broken handle from chopping wood, and those are tools "made for the job".

Just sayin'....

Lots and lots and lots of them especially if used hard enough and long enough. Probably why they are made so the handles can be easily replaced...except for the all steel hatchets, then you're s.o.l. as I found long ago.
 
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