Why Buy a CRK?

Quiet said:
Your level of dismissiveness towards a tremendously high level of achievement tells us all we need to know about how much your opinion is worth*.


*Spoiler alert: it's worthless. Your opinion is worth less than the pixels being lit up to display your post.
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Let him believe what he wants to. All of us current and past CRK owners know the real truth. The less CRK’s he buys just leaves more for the rest of us “fanboys”! :D
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Another thought. I own Shiros (washers and bearings), and one issue is that the pivot screws back out over time if you dont put on some sort of loctite. This does not happen with a Sebenza.
Dont get me wrong, i love my Shiros, but its no CRK.
Plus, the bushing in the Sebbie is just something i personally like. :)

Keep ‘em sharp!!
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Doesn’t CRK ship all of their knives with a vial of LocTite in the box?
 
If a pivot isnt free spinning it normally wont loosen up. I dont know if thats the case with a Sebenza as i dont have one to check.
 
A Sebenza is free spinning, but there is a bushing on the pivot that rotates. :)

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The CRK company imo is rather different from the other makers.. in that they put out a good design and they really do sticks to it.. it’s not the most ergonomic folder out there, but being neutral in ergo also means many if not most users can fit.
I was into folding knifes collecting, in a small way, many years back. Stop and then picked it up again recently, and it’s comforting to know that the Sebenza lineup are still very much relevant and the same
From the PJ to the inlays and what not it makes the good old Sebenza a very interesting and enduring collecting journey...
 
CRKs are excellent knives. They are not for everyone, but the simplicity of the design is what a lot of folks like about em. I have 3 CRKs and love them all equally. They may look the same, but the 21 and Inkosi have totally different actions, feels and lockups and internal parts. Folks should try something before they knock it.

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91bravo said:
The PJ Inkosi Insingo is my favorite CRK!
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I've got a $300 bill about to arrive in my inbox from REK for a bunch of work on my Gray, and just got done with $160 from CRK that $460 in a couple months and pretty much blows my knife budget for the year. I figure an Inkosi and Impinda are in my future none the less maybe I'll splurge at Christmas
 
why buy a CRK?
b/c you can!

american made, not overly complicated or made to look like somethign from a space movie, well made with quality materials.
whats not to love - when I have the funds to do I will be adding one to my "collection"
 
Officer's Match said:
First of all, I have professionally not just run CNC equipment, I've written code for them as well. Secondly, no other knife manufacturer even attempts to hold the tolerances that CRK routinely demands. You simply do not know what you are talking about here. You have a history of badmouthing CRK products, and frankly are not credible where they are concerned.
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bhyde said:
Someone needs to educate themselves on what tolerances are- To know that anyone has tighter tolerances would have me believe that you have the blueprints in front of you and can measure the deviation from nominal.
The average person cannot do this..you may be able to FEEL it with how well something fits together and in some cases see it. Knowing it is something entirely different.

Anyone can have tight tolerances on almost anything but it only matters if those tolerances are applied in the right areas to control the assembly. I can have a tight tolerance on a lanyard bead but in the end, what the hell does that do for the assembly as a whole?
Will you feel ±.0001 on the diameter, inner diameter and thickness of a lanyard bead? Will it be more visually appealing or provide any other function? Will you know the difference from joe-blow's bead? Eh..not likely.

I have a few years being a machinist, like @Officer's Match and it's pretty obvious when someone talks without knowledge on this subject.
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So I have a question as I'm not a machinist and have zero knowledge about CNC machines other than what they are and what they do.

How does CRK get such tight and controlled tolerances? Is it due to better equipment, better data/coding input, better materials, better design, or maybe more hand finishing and attention to detail?

You don't have to sell me on their end product, clearly I'm a fan. I just want to understand how CRK can do it while other knife companies cannot or at least not to the same level as CRK? I know cost vs. profit comes into play. Companies like say Benchmade for instance can't justify the extra time and effort and still only charge $200 for a certain knife and the production levels they are at.
 
That's pretty much it. It costs time and money to meet those targets. That can mean more time on the machine or more batches of parts rejected if they don't match the decimal places. Never mind the time taken to design and prototype a new thing.

It's "relatively" easy to make one thing to a tight tolerance. It gets a lot more complex when the thing you're making is made of a bunch of parts you make to a particular tolerance; they all have to match up.
 
GermanyChris said:
Inkosi does but not the sebenza
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Sharp & Fiery said:
GermanyChris GermanyChris is correct. Just the inkosi’s come with loctite. The sebenza and mnandi come with a tube of grease.
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Quiet said:
No, it's a small tube of lubricant. In the years I've carried my CRKs, I've never needed to loctite anything.
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GermanyChris said:
Because the pivot is adjustable on the Inkosi.
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The "Service Kit" CRK sells comes in two versions:
  • "Large & Small Inkosi / Umnumzaan / TiLock -Fluorinated Grease, Loctite, 5/64th" allen wrench, x2 1/8th" allen wrench, Microfiber Cloth. This kit will also help you care for the Sebenza 25."
  • "Large & Small Sebenza 21 / Mnandi -Fluorinated Grease, 5/64th" allen wrench, Microfiber cloth."
It makes sense that the knives that have a pivot bushing (21 and Mnandi) don't need Loctite, since you can just torque down the pivot enough that it's not going to loosen up too much. The others need the Loctite to keep the adjustable pivot in place. To me, the fact that they include it with models where the customer would need it to service the knife is something you probably won't see from anyone else in the industry.
 
OrangeBlueOrangeBlue said:
The "Service Kit" CRK sells comes in two versions:
  • "Large & Small Inkosi / Umnumzaan / TiLock -Fluorinated Grease, Loctite, 5/64th" allen wrench, x2 1/8th" allen wrench, Microfiber Cloth. This kit will also help you care for the Sebenza 25."
  • "Large & Small Sebenza 21 / Mnandi -Fluorinated Grease, 5/64th" allen wrench, Microfiber cloth."
It makes sense that the knives that have a pivot bushing (21 and Mnandi) don't need Loctite, since you can just torque down the pivot enough that it's not going to loosen up too much. The others need the Loctite to keep the adjustable pivot in place. To me, the fact that they include it with models where the customer would need it to service the knife is something you probably won't see from anyone else in the industry.
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It's also pretty telling you can lock down to pivot on a Sebenza pretty much as tight as you want and it won't change the action. How many other manufactures can say that?
 
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