Why did I buy that?

POS? SOG Pentagon Elite. Looks great but the liner lock is really poorly made. It wore out after bout three weeks. But I can't really call it a liner lock... There are no liners. There's a piece of steel screwed to the plastic handle material. Still have it though, I use it to practice sharpening.

Most of my truly regrettable (stupid) purchases occurred when I was a relative knife neophyte…I’ve written them off as part of the learning process. I usually ended up giving these knives to my young nephews (although I also make it a point to give them some decent blades in order to develop their appreciation for quality cutlery). In recent years my only major disappointments were a Junglee Sahara Jr. (clumsily executed CQC7 rip-off) and a Bear MGC Damascus hunter (adequate steel but extremely poor quality stag handle). More often than not, I’ll purchase a knife that seems moderately interesting and find that it begins to grow on me as I use it. The purchases that I regret most typically involve knives that have some minor defect; I’m usually too complacent to return these items and I end up kicking myself as their deficiencies become more and more annoying.
Josh Murray, I also bought a survival knife out of Boy's Life in about 1963. It turned out to be a Camillus Pilot Survival Knife, the same one issued to Army, Navy, and Air Force Aviators currently. Only the earlier ones were better! Such a deal for $6.

I've never purchased a regrettable knife but I have had several given to me by people that thought they were doing me a favor. My employer gave me knives for my 5th and 10th anniversary and several vendors who try to sell me food ingredients have given me "swiss army knives" made in that town in Switzerland named "China." You know, the kind that when you hold it up by the scales, the phillips screwdriver flops down out of the handle! I even have one given that was given to me that has a main blade made out of the same aluminum alloy stuff used as dividers between the blades! Well, it was given to me with love, even if without much knife knowledge.

Quality costs! Bruce Woodbury
Help me with these acronyms.
What does POS mean??

By the way, is IMHO to be trusted more than IMO?


P.S. O's are like A's, everybody has one...

Piece of Sh*t.

"Earth has its boundaries, but human stupidity is limitless."

I bought a Buckmaster about ten years ago, kept it around collecting dust. Never used it and just recently gave it to a friend of mine who has been drooling over it a lot lately. Other than that, haven't really regretted buying any of my knives, but wish I had forgone my purchase of the Gerber Multi-lock, just too big and bulky compared to my beloved Supertools and Waves. Later, Jeff

Anybody seen the bactine, please?!?!?!?

What do I regret purchasing? NOTHING.

That's right, nothing. Sure, there are plenty of knives I've bought (and sold) that weren't the greatest knives in the world, some that were down right poor, and plenty that were worth exactly what I paid for them.

But I mean, c'mon -- every knife has SOME purpose. Even the worse piece of Pakistani trash can serve a fuction, even if just a one-time use that would ruin the blade, like using it as a fireplace poker or for scraping away some foul substance that you wouldn't want soiling the blade of a "good" knife.

Perhaps I get a little weepy and pseudo-spiritual where knives are concerned, but it's my philosophy that there's no such thing as a bad knife -- only varying degrees of quality and functionality. I think we tend to drift into a sort of knife-snobbery from time to time, looking down our noses not only at the offending tool, but sometimes at the person who purchased it. You're not a loser if you like tacky, cheap knives; you've just got lower standards. *chuckle*

So please, my brethren and sistheren (?), let us all join hands together and be happy that we share affection for sharpened implements.


Hey Razor..could I interest you in 14" fillet knife with a superflex .0001 (for those hard to reach places)tanto point blade made from vintage recycled green bean cans, balsa wood handle with a custom coffin style sheath used only once by a carp fisherman in Tibet...
Yeah baby its got soul!!!!
Could it be retrofitted with a Pakistani-steel pocket clip?


PS: I guess I should make the distinction about knives that are obviously unsafe as being the only ones I would consider "bad." I originally thought the Gerber Chameleon looked like a finger-removal device, for instance, and wasn't shy about saying so. (It's since been related to me that the knife cannot chop off your index finger, though of course the others are still as vulnerable as with any folding knife.)

I'd even make a distinction between unsafe and merely unreliable, too. Obviously, you don't trust a knife that is unreliable for much other than benign string-cutting and envelope opening. But even a folder that fails the "spine whack test" is a useful tool, provided you don't use it for anything for which you wouldn't use a sliplock folder.

The First Church of Knife Universalism is Now Open,


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I picked up a Stryker when they first came out, and I had the worst time opening it. The design of the thumstud just wouldn't work right in my hand. What a shame because it is such a nice looking knife. Ended up trading for a Sentinel and it opens like a lighting bolt for me. Go figure.
I'm the guy that wouldn't buy a Buck. As a knife lover since I was born,
I have owned them & used them, & as a knifemaker, now that I am grown, that offers a sharpening service. I would never buy another or recommend them. I know that I will
piss off many other members, but sorry, I am just giving my opinion.
Whenever I get a call from a customer that says they have a knife with the tip broken off, & can I repair it. I say to my wife, "there's a buck knife", & sure as hell, it is.
I find that they cant hold an edge & are brittle. Now for the angy replies I guess.
I have not had any experience with thier more expensive, high end stuff, so I cant comment on that.
They do offer a well made knife at a good price, but if a blade cannot hold its edge, then, to me, it's just a pretty chunk of metal, & thats all...

The size of a mans house does not reflect his wealth, but rather, his greed...BCK...Happy Knifemaking...

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Back in the mid-'80s when I was in Taiwan I got some POS ripoffs of the Buch 110. They wouldn't cut and one wasn't sharp to begin with...wouldn't sharpen, either.
The worst one had a brass handle and I decided to test the lock, so I used minimal pressure on the blade spine, like closing a Swiss Army Knife...the damn thing closed! I checked the well of the lock and it was almost flat!
I knew they weren't good when I bought them, but that's all I found at the time there, and my only REAL knife was my Victorinox Spartan SAK which was I'd taken with me overseas.
Any Cold Steel folder. I never like the handle nor the serrations, but about every three years I need to buy one to remind myself. I just sold one and have to unload another, gave one to a friend as reward for winning his first fight.

I also regret buying a BM Leopard Cub, seemed so nice at first, but really to small for my taste.
I agree with Razoredj - there ain't no bad knives.
I own a $2 Chinese made lockback that I wouldn't be without when I go fishing - I abuse the sh1t out of it, secure in the knowledge that when it finally breaks I have got a lot of use out of that $2.
And when it does finally go to the Big Knifestore in the Sky, I will happily part with another $2 to replace it.

In fact, I'd say that this POS has given me the best value for money of any knife I own!

"..it is foolishness and endless trouble to cast a
stone at every dog that barks at you.."
Hey Razor and Trevor, That was funny Razor I was pictureing two clips..one at the bottom and one at the top so you could clip the knife in your shirt pocket and pants pocket at the same time!! What do ya think? a patent ahhe?
Actually I wasn't slamming the POS knives, you are correct sir.. they all have there place in life...Saw a small kid in Mexico one time working with a butter knife that had been ground to a drop point, he was producing acoustic guitar parts (spuce braces) with it along with his dad! He had wrapped string around the handle samuri style as a cushion.It was obvious he was very proud of this knife as I watched him clean and sharpen it carefully. I must admit to abusing the heck out of my old fish knife too..Damn thing just won't stay sharp! What a PIECE
Thanks Razoredj, Trevor and Bartman,

For reminding me that they do have some redeeming qualities.

I guess I really have used some of those Chinese knives. I have broken one using it and have practiced on several when learning how to sharpen. They really do have some use and at the price, probably a real bargain. I purchased enough of these to last a lifetime, so I can break, sharpen and abuse them at my leisure now. I know better now what they are good for and what they shouldn't be used for.

A bit of learning and adjusting is needed to figure out where they fit in the total scheme of things.
Tradition around the knife store where I used to hang out was to refer to truly junky knives as "mighty," as in "the Mighty Fury Shark" or "the Mighty Lobster Tourist Knife" (a long story, but basically a mistranslation of "Ronin"). There were always a lot of phrases that began "The Mighty Cold Steel..." whenever a new copy of "Special Projects" arrived

Still waiting for the Mighty CS Battle Barrel, the only "tactical" 55-gallon drum offered anywhere...


(Why else would a bear want a pocket?)
Hey Corduroy
Is that the carbon v or the san mai model??


What? Another knife? Don't you have enough of those things already?
How many does one person need?
Tom- Forget bottle openers, learn how to lever the cap off with a piece of hard plastic. Bic lighters are great, the cap on any plastic soft drink bottle (full or empty, it doesn't matter), remote controls, video cassettes, telephone headsets, your imagination is the only limit. This method has the added advantage, if done correctly, of not bending the cap out of shape, allowing you to recap the beer if necessary.

Me, I used to use the handle of my Cold Steel Voyager Tanto for this duty before I gave it to my (now ex-)girlfriend's father. I paid 20% over _retail_ for the knife at the Amherst Drop Zone, Amherst, MA. Got home and saw it on the Internet for a third of what I paid. "Sorry, no refunds or exchanges."