Why do so many people on this forum dislike sog

[canadiantrailman]

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[TaTaToothy]

I have a couple of SOGs (a Flash I and an Aegis) and generally like them. I will say, though, that neither the company nor the knives (at least mine) inspire the kind of confidence and fondness that, say, my Kershaw Tyrade G10s, my Spyderco Sage, or even my Boker Exskelibur do. SOG feels like more of a marketing machine than a company with a sincere interest in serving its customers, at least compared to any number of other knife companies, so it doesn't surprise me it doesn't have the same kind of fan loyalty as they do.

 

[knife_nut73]

That's the most recent reason. The earlier reason(s) for me were the cost to value ratio, and the very blocky, chunky nature of most of their folders.

$80 for a rectangular knife with zytel scales and AUS8 steel isn't much of a bargain. You can buy a G-10 & 154CM made in USA Spyderco Manix 2 for that kind of dough.

It's not really hate for me, just better choices.

i agree thats why i don't own any. 130 plus for a pentagon 2 folder when you can get a 710 with g10 and d2 blade for a lot less. Too many choices out there to buy a high price tag.

 

[DennisStrickland]

knifenut i missed out on the bm710 at those prices. my d2 bought when 1st intro. yrs. back cost 155$

 

[knowsnoknife]

Any negative comments on the SOG Tomcat 3.0, Fatcat and Vulcan? Or are these quality stuff?

 

[PayetteRucker]

I bought a 60 dollar Trident, used it for a week and the action was so gunked up I couldn't get the blade open, so I bought a Flash II. I used it for a week, maybe two, and the action was so gunked up I couldn't get the blade open. So I said screw SOG's folders. They make a nice fixed blade but ask too much for them.

 

[J.Davey]

I like many of their fixed blade designs, but they are waaaaaay over-priced for what they are. For instance, I love the look of their Creed fixed blade, but would never pay $160.00 (low-end) for a AUS8 "Made In Taiwan" knife. If it were between 80 and 100 bucks (like the comparable Ka-Bar BullDozier), then I might. Yep. Way over-priced.

 

[rainermh12]

SOG let me down. My first knife was a Trident...came with bladeplay and wouldnt hold an edge. Had my hopes up pretty high for it sucked

 

[Chris Pierce]

all the sogs i have owned had a blade play.........

I like many of their fixed blade designs, but they are waaaaaay over-priced for what they are. For instance, I love the look of their Creed fixed blade, but would never pay $160.00 (low-end) for a AUS8 "Made In Taiwan" knife. If it were between 80 and 100 bucks (like the comparable Ka-Bar BullDozier), then I might. Yep. Way over-priced.

What they said. Plus they are over priced for what they are, and they copy other peoples knife designs. I really wanted to like them for a while since they are a local company for me. But I can't, SOG just doesn't have the quality, value or self-respect.

Any negative comments on the SOG Tomcat 3.0, Fatcat and Vulcan? Or are these quality stuff?

I think you're probably safe one these specific knives (I've never heard any bad press about them) but I do believe that you'll be over paying for them if you pay the going rate.

 

[Alann45]

Any negative comments on the SOG Tomcat 3.0, Fatcat and Vulcan? Or are these quality stuff?

Just got a Tomcat 3 a few weeks ago. So far I'm quite please with it. Very attractive knife. Decent quick release pouch. Smooth action, good lockup. Cuts thru corrugated cardboard like butter.

As to the general thread theme:
Have a number of SOG folderss, mostly their low to middle price range ones, generally pleased with all of them.
SOG does some interesting things at times trying to be innovative...sometimes they succeed, sometimes not.
Had a Salute and sold it off. Couldn't quite get use to it. Plus the detent was poor and the "adjustable" thumb stud sounds like a good idea, but it's almost impossible to actually adjust and get to lock where you adjust it to.

Recently got their new Toothlock. Not a bad little knife (I say little because it's got a 3" blade and not a 4" as their web site stated for quite a while). Interesting blade shape and steel. Seems a bit pricey for what it is.
One thing I don't get about it is that it has a button that partially kicks the blade out, about 1/4" or so. Why? It makes it NO easier to open. In fact, if you use the button you then have to change finger/hand position to finish opening it...its MUCH easier to just use the thumb stud and open it. I assume its a gimmick to help sales, but imho they would have been better off to leave it off and save some money.
Now if some enterprising soul starts adding a spring to it, it could have possiblities.

 

[MSgt]

A couple of years ago my son gifted me with a Mini X-Ray Vision. VG-10, no blade play, overall a nice knife. I am personally not into tanto style blades but overall the geometrics of the blade are very nice for that style (IMO) I really like the ARC Lock and the best part was the price - FREE!

 

[mystro]

I have a Flash2 new (design lock) and like the knife. I use it for EDC because it is very light and easy to carry. Maybe I have a winner because mine has no blade play in any direction and it is lightning fast action. Sure my Benchmades are built better but they were 2x the price. I butchered a deer last year with a older Flash2 (wasnt my knife) and it did a fine job.:thumbup: Here is my new Flash 2.....

 

[Hitzy]

Any negative comments on the SOG Tomcat 3.0, Fatcat and Vulcan? Or are these quality stuff?

The Cats are waaayyy overpriced, Vulcan not as bad, expensive way to get some VG10.

I find they have adopted the Cold Steel marketing model. Have everything made in Taiwan (or China), use outdated steel and plastic, charge wayy more then the competition for it, and use really stupid/lame descriptions of the knives like "Our comprehensive Aegis line of premier folders is fully integrated with top end systems." or "The Flash has got to be one of the coolest knives we’ve ever seen. Forget its wicked-quick blade access, that it handles like a race car on rails, or that it locks up like Alcatraz."
And the assist mech they use is the worst on the market.

 

[mr dylan]

my sog aegis is a piece of sh*t. it has all sorts of blade play so i tightened the pivot, now it is really slow and it still has blade play! when i took it apart i realized that the lock doesn't even engage properly. also they totally copied the spyderco endura. they use materials that don't match their prices.

spyderco-

sog-

 

[Chris Pierce]

Flash2 (wasnt my knife) and it did a fine job.:thumbup:

I think that some people have different standards on what is fine and what's not.

 

[hoppingzombie]

Some of the nicer folders seem intriguing are on my "one day maybe" list, but unfortunately I have a limited amount of money, and there are always other knives from other companies that appeal to me more or seem like a better value. I do think that SOG uses too much Zytel and Kraton in some of their designs for their pricepoint. I owned and used a small regular Vulcan, as well as a large Tanto Vulcan, but ended up selling them for a couple reasons. The knives were very rugged and beefy and had excellent fit & finish, but the Zytel handles always felt uncomfortable, cheapish, and actually scratched pretty easily. And because the liners were all nested, it seemed like getting the scales switched to a different material would be overly problematic. Finally, in use my thumb on both models always wanted to rest on the sharp peak of the thumb ramp... sliding it forward or backward just made the rest of my hand uncomfortable. I later bought 2 of the bone handled Arcitects for a really good price; sold one off and kept the other. That one is a really nice, both in fit and finish, and in use. Very ergonomic, the blade is a great slicer, the bone looks so much better than some catalog pictures I've seen, and the pocket clip is very tastefully done. Finally, the knife opens so smoothly and locks up with no bladeplay.

 

[j man]

I think the S-1 Vietnam S,O,G reproduction is a very nice knife! The current one S-1T is well made . but made in Aus8 not carbon like it was in the 80s & 90s. I have a S-1T and i cant fault it. I Realy want a Old carbon model. The blade is marked 5Th Special Forces. and was made in Seki. Same factory as the war time one.
Wicked Knife!!!!!!!!

 

[tacmedic909]

I own a few SOG items. I love my Powerlock, but my recently bought Trident.......the knife looked frickin awesome and the reviews weren't bad so I figured what the hay.The blade seems flimsy and not a big fan of the lock up, i have a lot of blade play.I blame R.Lee Ermey for leading consumer astray.lol

 

[benyaM95 Ranger Knif]

IMO - SOG did produce my 2 fav fixed blades - S25 and FK

 

[Larry Turko]

I like most of their Pentagon line; I have the 5" blade Spec-elite folder and the 5" Pentagon II folder which lock up rock solid and look very cool as far I'm concerned. I also have, and like ,the Pentagon and mini-Pentagon daggers.
I also have an older model Tigershark which I like, although the handle is a little rough on the palm and if I were a camper, I would probably want to wear gloves.
There seems to be a lot of outrage about Sog copying other makers but I think the company is also willing to try new ideas. For example my Pentagon II folder has what the company calls a 'shark tooth' tip which I haven't seen on any other makers knives.
Just recently the company came out with the Brent Bashara 'swedge' fixed blades which are certainly a new idea and which I plan on buying when I have the opportunity.
I think one poster claimed that BM is cheaper than Sog and therefore Sog is over priced. That's certainly not true where I live and I've long felt that Sog ,like Cold Steel, offers a lot of products the average person can actually afford.
Speaking of over priced; I often shake my head in amazement at the adulation so often expressed for the CR Sebenza which I think costs about $400 and is just over 3.5 [wow!] inches long.
I like the look of my Sog Spec-elite folder much more and I'm sure that in an SD situation it's also a much more capable knife.