Why doesn't everyone own a Delta Z????

Ive had the chance to hold and play with every one of there models and still dont own one or want to. I can understand that you feel passionate about these knives and that is great but you wont convince me.To me it is obvious that when a knife company has been around since 2001 well at least the forum has 12-16-2001 and there is a grand total of 95 threads alot more people besides myself have taken this to speak volumes.Knife Knuts are like old women nothing new comes out with out the word or gossip spreading quick. I am extremely happy you are so happy with these knives.Enjoy!!And if this allows you to keep having knife giveaways then more power to you.:D :D ......RB
 
I can only speak for myself but I'm not exactly sure that a low thread post count on any given forum is directly proportional to knifenut's interests or lack thereof.

I've been frequenting KFC's W.R.Case & Sons Forum as well as their Marble's Arms forum for years. I know that both of these forums don't exactly do a blistering thread post count but argueably are some of the most sought after and collected knives being made.

So what I conclude from this is that while many people may be interested in, like the look of, or want to buy but can't afford it they may still be checking in to see what's new but don't necessarily post.

Also, please note that if I'm not wrong, Delta-Z's forum over at KFC seems to do better in the way of trafic then is seen here at BFC.

If people don't seem to lock on to Delta-Z knives it may be, in part to the fact, that they seem to change their product line quite frequently. They don't seem to remain with any one defining knife style that becomes a brand recognition style. If I'm to understand what Barnaby Zelman is trying to accomplish is to bring new and innovative high quality products to the knife community at an affordable price.

I will give in here and say that Delta-Z knives are not custom knives (and I realize this comparison hasn't been made here within this thread) but I don't believe they were ever intended to be in the same class as customs. They are however, IMHO, very nice knives that I'm glad I've been able to add to my collection.

--The Raptor--

PS - I like these knives so much that just before posting this response I went to Delta-Z's website and purchased the following for $29.00:D:
 
Originally posted by Raptor

I've been frequenting KFC's W.R.Case & Sons Forum as well as their Marble's Arms forum for years. I know that both of these forums don't exactly do a blistering thread post count but argueably are some of the most sought after and collected knives being made.

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You dont see how my comment was relevent but you use the same one to make your point in favor.Im happy for you to. You just got a OK inexpensive knife and it seems to have made you very happy.As far as Im concerned thats what knives and collecting them are all about.My own father collects knives and has hundereds.He likes Delta's and has a couple. And I wouldnt want a one of them if he gave them to me.........RB
 
My own father collects knives and has hundereds.He likes Delta's and has a couple. And I wouldnt want a one of them if he gave them to me.........RB
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I know what you mean, I am that way with Emerson and Cold Steel
 
Originally posted by blackeye4you
You dont see how my comment was relevent but you use the same one to make your point in favor.
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blackeye4you,
I wasn't saying that your comment was irrelevent, but rather IMHO, not exactly accurate.

Im happy for you to. You just got a OK inexpensive knife and it seems to have made you very happy. As far as Im concerned thats what knives and collecting them are all about.My own father collects knives and has hundereds.He likes Delta's and has a couple. And I wouldnt want a one of them if he gave them to me.
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Thanks you for being happy for me. And as you've noted I am very happy with myself and with my purchase but I'm happy not because I "just got a OK inexpensive knife" but because, IMHO, I got a very nice knife that I really like and I got it for a great price as well.
You are right about knife collecting and what it's all about. I would just personally prefer not to have someone come into a thread like this and offer an opinion while looking down his nose at the same time. Don't get me wrong blackeye4you, I respect your opinions and want to hear them, I just don't want to be belittled at the same time for my interest in a particular knife brand. I'm sure many of the knives you find interesting I would find not so. That's just the way it is. After all as you've stated, "thats what knives and collecting them are all about."



I also want to point out a couple of more things that may add to the discussion.

According to Barnaby Zelman, of Delta Z Knives, they use the following steels in their products:
440A (USA)
440C (USA)
AUS-8A (Japan)
W1.4116 (Germany)
12C27 (Sweden)
Z60CDV14 (Sweden)
T9MOV (France)
Devin Thomas and Mike Norris damascus as well.

Most people would surely consider many (I know - not all) of the above listed steels as worthy for use in a knife blade.

Delta-Z has worked with on collaborations with noted custom makers Darrel Ralph and Tim Herman. Not too shabby.

Delta-Z has had articles done on them in at least two different national knife magazines. (Not that this necessarily means eveything but I would think it surely has to mean something)

And if I remember correctly I use to see their damascus folders listed on KnifeArt.com within their "Production Knives" section. Go there (to KnifeArt) and see what company they kept. This isn't bad considering their regular listings are William Henry knives, Camillus OVB's, etc...

And one last thing that just popped into my head. Delta-Z was granted U.S. PATENT NO. 6,170,158, B1 for their 360 Pivot knife. Like the knife or not, this surely indicates that they have come up with a genuinely original design with this one. How many times is there a completely new knife style introduced? I'm going to guess not many.


blackeye4you,
Please don't take any of this as an attack on yourself. I merely wanted to add to the thread and to the discussion's direction that it took from your earlier posts. As I stated before, I respect your opinions but some of your remarks seemed a little harsh. The BadGuy was really happy with his new knives, and probably still is, but I'm sure he had to think similarly to me and feel that maybe you had kinda' rained on his parade a little. That's just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.;)


--The Raptor--
 
I bought several knives from Delta Z and am pleased with their appearance, style & fit. Time will tell if they 'hold up' but as far as I'm concerned, for the $$ they are well worth it! I have to agree about the 360 pivot knife though. It is unique & I bought it to give as a gift (probably will be fine as a letter opener) as well as have it as a 'conversation' piece! I don't expect to give it any hard use though!
 
Dont expect that you will be able to replace these little gems soon huh fellas. That's what I meant by low thread count.:rolleyes:
 
Prior to their "going out of business sale" I purchased two knives from Delta Z. One was quite nice, but the second one closed up on my fingers when brand new. I called the company to complain, and told them I wanted my money back. I was told that the company policy was to exchange or put the value in another knife from them. I sent the knife back for them to look at.

Next I got a call that the lock was holding secure enough for this type of knife. I got quite upset and told them that perhaps I valued my fingers more than they valued their own fingers. I told them I was stopping payment on the second knife, thru my credit card company. They ended up refunding my money.

This was really not a big deal, but it soured me on Delta Z as a company. Secondly I was always astounded that there never seemed to be any established retail on any of their items. The prices varied dramatically from one internet sales company to another. Far more variation than with other knife companies. I don't like having the normal established retails so obscure.
 
The only reason I posted on this old thread was because I said these were cheap knives and I supected that the low thread count on the forum was a good indicator to that and got a blast of crap for raining on another man's parade from someone speaking up for someone else once again. I wonder how those warrenties are going to be upheld or if Delta Z will pop in and argue that they are as good as everyone was raving about when buying the crap up before they went out of bussiness. It's just like it is said you get what you pay for.If the price is low so is the quaility.Why do you think something made by hand is so expensive. Some makers make 2 or 3 per month.If you put a 500 or even a thousand dollar price on each he still is only making what a regular job brings in.There is so much work that goes into a custom and way more into a folder than most people even realize. The only way to bring the cost down is to mass produce in a factory and use lower quality material. That's why not everybody wants owns or needs a Delta Z knife as the thread ask's.
 
blackye, comparing a production knife like a Delta Z to a handmade custom is comparing apples to accordions.

I happen to love my DeltaZ's as the models I own have a classy unique appearance with "exotic" natural handle materials, and in my opinion the quality is excellent. Considering the price point I bought them at ($20-$35) they are better than ANY CRKT folder (and I've had several), which is a company that gets a lot of attention in that price range. Delta Z's are the only linerlocks I own anymore.

The point is moot, as they are now defunct. I have a nice DeltaZ EDC rotation that I am very happy with their performance and appearance.
 
Originally posted by blackeye4you
The only reason I posted on this old thread was because I said these were cheap knives and I supected that the low thread count on the forum was a good indicator to that and got a blast of crap for raining on another man's parade from someone speaking up for someone else once again.
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Forget Delta Z's quality as this comment is surely the only reason why this thread was pulled back up to the top.

:rolleyes:The Raptor:rolleyes:
 
NGK you know you were being just argumentative as I was when you posted your comment.And based on the low thread count theory they would have to have a forum to tell now wouldnt they.But there really isnt a theory because it is fact. You should have really thought that out first. The price difference should be pretty apparent.Not to mention the difference in years they have been around.Your comment is lacking at best......
 
Originally posted by Raptor
Forget Delta Z's quality as this comment is surely the only reason why this thread was pulled back up to the top.

:rolleyes:The Raptor:rolleyes:
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Duh!! It's exactly why it was pulled back to the top....:yawn:
 
Originally posted by blackeye4you
Duh!! It's exactly why it was pulled back to the top....:yawn:
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2.5 months of waiting........

Must've been awful for 'ya......

:pThe Raptor:p
 
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