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Jim_Archibald said:
Then enlighten me worthy one. Show me the errors of my ways. Explain how they are woefully guilty of these crimes, while others remain untried. Explain how Case did not copy the classic Bowie design (just a random example) Show us how all American made knives are new and novel, I can't wait. With VERY few exceptions, these designs pre-date our eldest members. Even the exceptions were copied! Benchmade has a spydy-hole, Spyderco has a Emerson Wave, etc. etc. etc.
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The Bowie design was not patented to my knowledge.
 
danbot said:
I don't care to support $17 rip-offs of another companies hard earned patented products that they have invested the time and money into to design, develop, test, manufacture and then market.
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Well sure they rip of the patents and copy registered trademarks but surely they would draw the line at stealing from their customers; quelle horreur!
 
danbot said:
I don't care to support $17 rip-offs of another companies hard earned patented products that they have invested the time and money into to design, develop, test, manufacture and then market.
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Examples? I doubt the Persian design had to be studied too much.
 
Danke42 said:
Well sure they rip of the patents and copy registered trademarks but surely they would draw the line at stealing from their customers; quelle horreur!
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Like several here say, gotta research. Does ANYONE here realize China operates under different rules? I'm certain China isn't alone. I see Russian Federation Axis locks too, but hey nothings said 'bout them. Ganzo is certainly run by Satan, at least it's the rift I'm getting, and that's silly.
 
Knife companies build their own versions influenced by a blade shape or a pattern. Ganzo builds exact replicas of said knives, and then put their stamp on it. Big difference. Look at your Firebird for instance, it's an exact copy of the BM940. It's a copy, which is a clone, which is frowned upon here. You've come to the wrong place to try and shill for Ganzo. They are probably despised by 99% of the members here.
 
Jim_Archibald said:
Then enlighten me worthy one. Show me the errors of my ways. Explain how they are woefully guilty of these crimes, while others remain untried. Explain how Case did not copy the classic Bowie design (just a random example) Show us how all American made knives are new and novel, I can't wait. With VERY few exceptions, these designs pre-date our eldest members. Even the exceptions were copied! Benchmade has a spydy-hole, Spyderco has a Emerson Wave, etc. etc. etc.
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Those examples do not support your position. Benchmade licensed the Spydie hole and Spyderco licensed the Emerson wave.

IIRC, Benchmade did not license it at first and did so after they were brought to court by Spyderco.
 
danbot said:
Examples: Kershaw Ken Onion speed-safe assisted opener. Benchmaed Axis lock.
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Ken Onion speed safe wasn't copied by Ganzo. They don't even offer assisted action. As to the "Axis-Lock" which was under copyright I believe it had expired however. It is a barrel lock mechanism and is on many knives. I do give 100% credit to Benchmade for the Osborne blade design. That may or may not be a copy or modification of a previous design, I don't know. It was however, inovative to the hobby considering the 940's popularity. Also credit must be given to Spyderco even if their trademark hole creates a weak spot.
 
Jim_Archibald said:
Ken Onion speed safe wasn't copied by Ganzo. They don't even offer assisted action. As to the "Axis-Lock" which was under copyright I believe it had expired however. It is a barrel lock mechanism and is on many knives. I do give 100% credit to Benchmade for the Osborne blade design. That may or may not be a copy or modification of a previous design, I don't know. It was however, inovative to the hobby considering the 940's popularity. Also credit must be given to Spyderco even if their trademark hole creates a weak spot.
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It may not have been copied by Ganzo, but it is an example of the expense that companies undertake to bring innovation to market.
 
Jim_Archibald said:
Ken Onion speed safe wasn't copied by Ganzo. They don't even offer assisted action. As to the "Axis-Lock" which was under copyright I believe it had expired however. It is a barrel lock mechanism and is on many knives. I do give 100% credit to Benchmade for the Osborne blade design. That may or may not be a copy or modification of a previous design, I don't know. It was however, inovative to the hobby considering the 940's popularity. Also credit must be given to Spyderco even if their trademark hole creates a weak spot.
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"Had expired" is incorrect. I do believe it is currently expired, yet Ganzo was using it years before that happened.
 
danbot said:
The Bowie design was not patented to my knowledge.
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A "Bowie knife" isn't even really a design or style, historically. It's just a bigass fighting knife. Most knives we recognize as a "bowie" bear little resemblance to to Jim Bowie's Sandbar knife.

Jim_Archibald said:
Examples? I doubt the Persian design had to be studied too much.
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You're trying to equate a broad ethnic/historical style to a company that deliberately and closely copy specific knives from specific brands. I'll do you the favor of not assuming you're so unintelligent that you don't recognize the difference, but rather you are desperately trying to justify supporting theft of intellectual property by making fallacious arguments. Ganzo has stolen both trademarked (Spyderhole) and patented (Benchmade AXIS lock) designs in addition to copying overall designs. The fact that China doesn't recognize patents and trademarks doesn't mean that it's OK, ethically speaking. New designs are being created constantly, yet Ganzo (and their ilk) deliberately copy specific designs to masquerade as better, more expensive knives for unscrupulous people like you.
 
Bottom line is that Ganzo seems to be unfairly singled out, in a knife manufacturing world that routinely copies for a living. I stand by my conclusions, that it's more of a "anti- savings campaign" than a matter of quality or perceived wrong done. And, just FYI, my NEXT knife will be a Case Trapperlock with kickstart. To the best of my knowledge Ganzo hasn't copid it yet.;)
 
Is this one of those threads that ends where, And just by happenstance Jim has a YouTube channel and a deal with Gearbest to showcase new products...? Or are you just recently retired and looking for a fight you won't win?

If its the second mission accomplished, you're now literally the punch line to a joke and will get no respect or even cordial treatment here.
 
Jim_Archibald said:
Bottom line is that Ganzo seems to be unfairly singled out, in a knife manufacturing world that routinely copies for a living. I stand by my conclusions, that it's more of a "anti- savings campaign" than a matter of quality or perceived wrong done. And, just FYI, my NEXT knife will be a Case Trapperlock with kickstart. To the best of my knowledge Ganzo hasn't copid it yet.;)
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Nothing unfair about it at all. Ganzo does exact replicas of other knives. Show me an exact replica that Spyderco, BM, ZT, CRK, or any other knife company, has produced.
 
Jim_Archibald said:
Bottom line is that Ganzo seems to be unfairly singled out, in a knife manufacturing world that routinely copies for a living. I stand by my conclusions, that it's more of a "anti- savings campaign" than a matter of quality or perceived wrong done. And, just FYI, my NEXT knife will be a Case Trapperlock with kickstart. To the best of my knowledge Ganzo hasn't copid it yet.;)
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Bottom line is you have added nothing to the debate. You should have just searched Ganzo for answers as to why your views are misguided. Would have saved everyone a whole lot of time.
 
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