If the overseas buyer is paying via paypal, and you ship the knife to an address other then his/her verified PP address, the seller is still responsible for the knife. The seller is responsible for the knife till it reaches the buyer.
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Why is there a reluctance to ship outside of CONUS?
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If the overseas buyer is paying via paypal, and you ship the knife to an address other then his/her verified PP address, the seller is still responsible for the knife. The seller is responsible for the knife till it reaches the buyer.
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Yes, if the address is pp verified. That would be ok with me. Otherwise, why take the extra risk and hassle for something you can sell in US anyway? I understand that may stink for quite a few great overseas knife nuts, but it is what it is. There are just to many examples here of problems.
Exactly, and that's the issue. It just tends to be too problematic. Besides most here are not doing this because this it's their occupation or because they are running a business they are selling just one or two things at a time because they are ready to move on to something else. There's generally enough opportunity to do so where I don't have so many concerns are hassles with people here more local.
I have shipped to Canada once. I was shipping one of my own knives to a customizer in Canada. And it went fine, the knife got there safe, but it was still a pain. I couldn't use the diy kiosk, I had to pay extra shipping and insurance charges, and the tracking number stops working for usps once the package gets to the border. All relatively minor issues, but I only sell a couple of knives every few months. It's not worth it for me, as everybody else has also stated. Just my opinion as a seller, it seems that's the general feeling though.
Correct, and in the one case I sold to someone outside the US this was how it was done. Now exactly what he had to do I don't know, and frankly it didn't matter to me. It was a confirmed PayPal address and it was in the States and that's all that mattered to me.
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This to a T.
So in essence it wasn't an international sale at all. For all intents and purposes, you were selling the item to the person at that USA address.
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eBay has a shipping program where you mail the item to a packing center and they take care of the actual international shipping and delivery, while providing seller protection should the item disappear.
But selling on the forum, it's "tough tittie" with no recourse for the seller. If a package disappears off a doorstep, is confiscated by customs, or "falls off a truck" before reaching the buyer, the seller eats it.
I've sent via USPS to Canada, Germany, France, Mexico, Thailand, Switzerland, Finland, the UK, and a few other places, and have never had any trouble, but it can be nerve-racking dealing with the uncertainty of other countries' customs and local postal services.
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This is often done by international BF members who buy a lot and want to make sure they can get the knife they want. I've sold quite a few knives to overseas buyers who use a US address. OTOH, I've shipped directly to Europe and Canada with no issues so far. The customs forms are the biggest hassle. I have to go to the PPO and stand in line to ship. With stateside shipments I use a 24 hour automated kiosk in our PO after the windows have closed for the day.
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It has been mentioned, but if paying through PayPal you will need to provide proof that the buyer actually received the package if something goes wrong. Over the phone, PayPal told me this means signature confirmation upon delivery. This gets problematic as I have shipped numerous knives to Europe and all of them arrived, but NONE of the tracking was updated to that point to show delivery, much less that it was signed for. The tracking all stopped upon entering the country or other various points along the way.
So had I been dealing with dishonest buyers, they could have easily told PayPal they never received the knife, and they would have got the knife and the money and I lose all the way around. Easy to see why some people don't want to deal with that potential hassle.
Sam
So had I been dealing with dishonest buyers, they could have easily told PayPal they never received the knife, and they would have got the knife and the money and I lose all the way around. Easy to see why some people don't want to deal with that potential hassle.
Sam
I had the same feeling when I've signed up. outside US + zero feedback......(and sellers don't even know I'm 20/25 pounds overweight + I smoke and drink too much...)
Do like me : I use the knife exchange section as a showcase to discover blades I've never heard about before.
Then, I order what I like to US dealers/webshops who ship international in 3 to 5 days express, after you've created an account. (copies of ID and credit card)
Most of the time, final price is quite close.
Sometimes, lower.
Are you tracking via USPS or via local mail?
So as an example I bought an ax on here and it was shipped out from the East Coast. As it travel the USPS site updates each state and hub it passes through till it reaches Canada customs at the nearest border crossing that handles freight and commercial items. Then the tracking goes live on Canada Post (with the same tracking number) and tracks all the way to me. If it needs a sig then the CP carrier will have a signature sheet but to be honest a lot of stuff I get from the USA comes not needing a signature.
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I shipped both USPS Priority International and Priority International Express.
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