Why so much hate for pull sharpeners?

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You've got some thoughts from others.

You like the pull through.

Others have stated why the shortcomings, and why they don't use them.

A little bit of experience using a stone will yield better results, and takes only a minute or two once you've figured it out.

What else is there to discuss?
 
For motorized options you may have a look at Chef's Choice, or if willing to drop more cash and the extra bells and whistles appeal to you, Friedrich Dick of Germany makes some very feature-rich drag-through models that are very popular in industrial settings where time is of the utmost economy but results cannot be sacrificed.
 
JayDeep said:
Not helpful at all, but a valid point and opinion regardless. Unfortunately you don't realize how large of a disposable income I have. So just assume money is of literally zero concern. I just want something very easy, always. My free time is what's limited, not my budget. I prefer to keep what I have and like, but can easily replace if need be.

I'm just looking for the best possible solution for me.
FortyTwoBlades said:
I literally said "don't buy an expensive knife unless you can treat it like a consumable" specifically so you can just run it through a good quality motorized drag-through. So I fail to see how it was unhelpful. If money is no object, literally buy at whatever price point you are comfortable treating like most folks would treat a common box cutter, and just run it through the finest slot that will be sufficient to touch up your blade as needed. It will wear out faster than with manual sharpening, but is a drag through sharpener that actually puts a good edge on knives, just at the sacrifice of blade longevity.
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Never heard of a motorized drag through. Interesting idea. Oh well. I'll keep looking into more options and hope there's a suggestion that suits me.
 
MolokaiRider said:
You've got some thoughts from others.

You like the pull through.

Others have stated why the shortcomings, and why they don't use them.

A little bit of experience using a stone will yield better results, and takes only a minute or two once you've figured it out.

What else is there to discuss?
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I've used pull through. I like how easy and fast it is. I have a whetstone and keep it in my Bugout bag. Never used it. Seems decent, but no clue what I'm doing.

What else is there to discuss? Good question, that's what I'm here to find out. I don't know what all the options are. I'm here seeking what I don't know. I'm hoping to find something I know nothing of that might be the perfect fit. If it doesn't exist then I guess it's a fail, but i can't possibly know if I don't try. Not sure why the attitude. If you've expelled your ability to assist them go away. No need to bring the garbage attitude.
 
JayDeep said:
Not helpful at all, but a valid point and opinion regardless. Unfortunately you don't realize how large of a disposable income I have. So just assume money is of literally zero concern. I just want something very easy, always. My free time is what's limited, not my budget. I prefer to keep what I have and like, but can easily replace if need be.

I'm just looking for the best possible solution for me.
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If money is no object, employ a dedicated knife sharpener who will use stones to keep your knives sharp.
 
JayDeep said:
I've used pull through. I like how easy and fast it is. I have a whetstone and keep it in my Bugout bag. Never used it. Seems decent, but no clue what I'm doing.

What else is there to discuss? Good question, that's what I'm here to find out. I don't know what all the options are. I'm here seeking what I don't know. I'm hoping to find something I know nothing of that might be the perfect fit. If it doesn't exist then I guess it's a fail, but i can't possibly know if I don't try. Not sure why the attitude. If you've expelled your ability to assist them go away. No need to bring the garbage attitude.
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The garbage attitude is coming out because you've asked for opinions, when it hasn't backed up your bias that pull thru's are OK, despite evidence, you've pushed back again and again.

It really doesn't take years to perfect. Have a read of the 'seven secrets of knife sharpening', get a decent Arkansas stone and a Sharpie, and take 30 minutes to learn a new skill that will transform your outlook.

Here's the link - https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/the-seven-secrets-of-sharpening-redux.1628756/
 
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Ruari said:
The garbage attitude is coming out because you've asked for opinions, when it hasn't backed up your bias that pull thru's are OK, despite evidence, you've pushed back again and again.

It really doesn't take years to perfect. Have a read of the 'seven secrets of knife sharpening', get a decent Arkansas stone and a Sharpie, and take 30 minutes to learn a new skill that will transform your outlook.
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No bias here. I know what I'm doing isn't the best option, but it is what I'm willing to do thus far. I'm not willing to dedicate any time into trying any harder than what a monkey could do without paying attention. It's truly a simple as that. So if someone presents an option that's more time consuming then of course I'm going to ignore it. That doesn't mean that there aren't possibly more options. That's what I'm here for.

Now if we truly have exhausted all options that's another thing entirely. But how could I know that we've reached that point seeing as I can't possibly know that.

Again the hostility is misplaced. Typical from what I've seen on this garbage forum though.
 
JayDeep said:
No bias here. I know what I'm doing isn't the best option, but it is what I'm willing to do thus far. I'm not willing to dedicate any time into trying any harder than what a monkey could do without paying attention. It's truly a simple as that. So if someone presents an option that's more time consuming then of course I'm going to ignore it. That doesn't mean that there aren't possibly more options. That's what I'm here for.

Now if we truly have exhausted all options that's another thing entirely. But how could I know that we've reached that point seeing as I can't possibly know that.

Again the hostility is misplaced. Typical from what I've seen on this garbage forum though.
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You're looking for something that doesn't exist, or snake oil.
You can see all the 'gizmos' on YouTube, all the little stalls demo'ing their 'time saving perfect edge leaving' devices which simply don't work.
You will never get a better edge than when using a stone - be it natural or diamond.
I use the Lansky rod and clamp system, the Spyderco Sharpmaker, Arkansas stones, diamond stones, Japanese Kingstones, Worksharp etc.
I can honestly day that THE BEST EDGE I've ever obtained was using the plain old stones - Arkansas, Japanese and diamond. Use the Sharpie, get the burr, strop it off. Lansky does a good job, Spyderco does a good job, but stones are still the best.
The little gimmick things don't work consistently or without damaging the knife, otherwise the makers would be millionaires.
Send your knives off to hand sharpener, have a brilliant edge installed, then buy yourself a strop and you keep that edge going for much longer than using mass material removal every time.
 
Some pull sharpeners are ok , as long as they support the bevel you want and don't tear away 5 years of use with every pull .
+ Some do horrendous damage to the edge and offer little in edge retention or making the knife a good cutter .
For that $5 to $10 supermarket kitchen knife ? Yeah , maybe you dont care ?

But , then some people :
There are to me , two kinds of sharp .
Sharp & stays sharp ..
+ A properly formed bevel / edge should be easy to maintain ..
Poorly made bevels edges , are not easy to maintain .
Ebay has loads of used knives where the blade has been so poorly sharpened there is little to no blade left on a knife that should have lasted a life time .
Ever seen a 20 or 30 year old bowie knife with a narrow spike for a blade ?
Or those pocket knives ( folders ) with a nub for a blade ?
Some one sharpened those blades to nothing left .
Maybe they were used at an industrial level ? maybe .
But I think those blades vanished Cos of the way they were sharpened .

Just depends ! On those nasty variables ! A lot of people don't care , or just can't be bothered .
Look at all those nasty cars out there , some people don't do anything . Don't change the oil , check the air in their tyers , or make sure their lights even work .
This planet has all sorts and not everyone cares about stuff other people might care about , that's life .
 
Richard338 said:
I don't think sharpening needs to be a big deal. If you just dedicate half a room and a few thousand dollars in equipment to it you should be fine.
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An 8x2 two sided Cryolston is $32. It won't be happy with super steels, but should be able to handle them. Strop and diamond paste shouldn't be a huge amount. So everything you need for $100 and fits in a shoe box.
A useful set of Atoma diamond plates and Chosera water stones (the most expensive commonly found waterstones I can think off), plus a sink bridge would still be less than $600 and beyond the sink bridge would still fit in a shoe box. That is a set up that handles everything and has the nice feel of waterstones.
Add in a dual sided Diafold to sharpen on the go and it's still far less than $1K.

A Sharp Maker and extra diamond rods is less than $150.

You'll need some counter space while sharpening with bench stones or Sharp Maker. Setting up and putting it away take five minutes?

A pull through sharpener has less of a learning curve. Carrying it is easier than having a Diafold, though that's marginal. Using one saves a minute? The cost is shorter blade life, a bad edge, and an obtuse angle - your knife will feel too thick in short order.

Your life, your knife, your choice. Don't justify it with a false argument.
 
Dumb me. Wish I had read this some time ago. Back then, I used a pull-through sharpener on a new Kizer with a polished blade. Scarred it up something fierce without really sharpening it.

Never again!

Now I content myself with a Spydie Sharpmaker and a WorkSharp Precision Sharpener. They may not be the best sharpening systems out there, but at least they do no harm while maintaining workmanlike edges.
 
Sounds like you think you have it all figured out so why did you come here asking our opinions? Maybe you just wanted to validate your own opinions and crap on any others you didn’t like. Like lee d says if you don’t like this site you call garbage then kick rocks!
 
You obviously don't want to spend any time learning how to best care for the edge of your knives, and you went on about how much disposable income you have. So, just buy a new knife every time one goes dull. Donate the dull knife to someone and let them deal with the edge. Simple.

Or take a little time, get a 220 grit dmt stone and a spyderco medium stone and learn to freehand. Takes a few minutes to get a good edge on nearly any steel, even s90v, and if you keep the edge touched up it takes even less time.

The Lansky is a good system but takes too much fiddling. The worksharp precision adjust fixed almost all the issues with it and is a better system imo. The sharpmaker has diamond and cbn rods available and those help tremendously but it still takes too long to reprofile with imo.

So, there are the options. I use the worksharp to reprofile and then keep my edges up with my freehand stones. Ymmv.

Or continue to use a garbage pull through and ruin your knives. Your money, your time, your choice.
 
I think if you looked at the edge under a microscope after using a pull through, you'd understand why people think it's crap. I've used one on cheap kitchen knives for a fast edge but I'd never use one on a quality knife.
 
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