Why so much money?

There are so many good choices or functional choices on knives these days and the pricing goes from pretty inexpensive (<$10 US) and up. Like anything else, different materials cost and function differently and if it is a custom knife, certainly the materials, level of effort, and the knifemaker's reputation contribute to the cost. I look at ZT's and keep trying to justfy the cost for myself, but I own substantially more expensive knives. Eventually I will pick a ZT up and give one a try.
 
It's not like these are common consumer products - I'd bet far more people recognize the Glock brand name than Spyderco or ZT. If you want a cheap and good knife that will likely meet all of your usage needs, there are dozens - if not hundreds - of production knives under $40 that come with warranties and good materials and build quality.

Looking at ZT and Benchmade prices is like looking at Desert Eagles - you really don't need it, but you pay for what you want and are not looking for the cheapest thing that will work.

I mean, you can spend thousands on watches, jewelry, shoes, and accessories - that doesn't mean the prices reflect a practical advantage over the cheaper options. I carry expensive knives because I feel the prices are reflected in the materials, build quality, and/or design. I'm looking at dropping 80+ on a Buck Marksman when a Vantage of similar size and design would cost me less than thirty dollars. Why? Bearings, better steel, interesting lock and overall design, and I like the blade shape slightly better.

It's all about personal tastes and priorities. I'd be fine with a cheap Casio watch but will not often carry a knife that cost less than $100, where some people couldn't bear the thought of wearing a watch that didn't have tritium arms and DLC coating but carries a gas station knife the person is completely content with.

So many things people spend money on are ego driven purchases, cars, houses, Watches, clothes, Guns, latest gadget..... Heck even that $5 cup of coffee people walk into work with is some kind of status symbol supposedly etc... Or the Grocery Store that people shop, I went to XXX Store like that really means something instead of YYY Store....... Like "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM SO AWESOME"........ Cough, choke...... LOL

Most of that has to do with marketing and how the products are marketed and people buy into that....... Companies spend a lot of money on advertising and marketing along with research and Psychiatrists on how to separate you from your money.....

Knives not so much usually as they more more of a tool really. :)
 
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There are so many good choices or functional choices on knives these days and the pricing goes from pretty inexpensive (<$10 US) and up. Like anything else, different materials cost and function differently and if it is a custom knife, certainly the materials, level of effort, and the knifemaker's reputation contribute to the cost. I look at ZT's and keep trying to justfy the cost for myself, but I own substantially more expensive knives. Eventually I will pick a ZT up and give one a try.

Hey 22, I would definitely recommend ZT products. I currently own two and have a third on the way. Two I have gotten from the exchange from other forum members, I would recommend to everybody if you are looking for a certain product to keep a watch on the exchange. For me like everything in life; you must be willing to pay for what you want. If I see a blade design I like, I save for it and buy it. It may be a $40 knife it may be a $140 knife. As long as you get what you want in the end is what matters.
 
Hey 22, I would definitely recommend ZT products. I currently own two and have a third on the way. Two I have gotten from the exchange from other forum members, I would recommend to everybody if you are looking for a certain product to keep a watch on the exchange. For me like everything in life; you must be willing to pay for what you want. If I see a blade design I like, I save for it and buy it. It may be a $40 knife it may be a $140 knife. As long as you get what you want in the end is what matters.

I hate to say it, but alot of folks have gone through the get the really "fill in the blank". If one can afford to, they should do it. Because hopefully it will help the come full circle and realize that whatever thing it is, is not the be all end all and that the family and relationships in our lives are what matters.

Itching that scratch helps squash that burning curiosity though!
Chris
 
Premium pricing strategery: The practice of keeping the price of a product or service artificially high in order to encourage favorable perceptions among buyers, based solely on the price. The practice is intended to exploit the tendency for buyers to assume that expensive items enjoy an exceptional reputation or represent exceptional quality and distinction.

I could name names, but you can figure out a few of them. And I own most of them, so apparently the strategery works. :)

Smart post. The same applies to wine. They did a study a while back and got professional tasters to rank wines. When they knew what the wines were they followed the predictable pattern of favoring the wines with the best reputations and the highest prices. When they did a double blind test, some of the 10 dollar wines were ranked amongst the highest. Perception, and the "respect" of others for "buying the good stuff", plays a big role in what people buy.
 
Smart post. The same applies to wine. They did a study a while back and got professional tasters to rank wines. When they knew what the wines were they followed the predictable pattern of favoring the wines with the best reputations and the highest prices. When they did a double blind test, some of the 10 dollar wines were ranked amongst the highest. Perception, and the "respect" of others for "buying the good stuff", plays a big role in what people buy.

Don't get me started on those supposed nose in the air wine experts... :D :rolleyes:

Things have changed a lot over the years with modern technologies in wine making you can really get some 1st class wine in the $10 range.

In reality most people (98%) wouldn't know a $10 bottle from a $500 bottle unless you told them what they were before hand... That's including those who think they know what they are talking about, and believe me they act like they are the worlds experts on wine..... It's almost unbearable to listen to them because they are so full of it........
 
Same thing with steak.

I'm not dissing the spendy stuff. I own, use and enjoy CRK, Busse, Emerson, Strider, etc. And a spendy knife can be marginally "better" in some respects than a middle of the road knife. But there is clearly some premium pricing strategery going on there, along with a lot of other marketing psychology. Hand a Spyderco Gayle Bradley and a Strider SNG to Average Joe, and ask him which one cost $475, and I bet that a person who hasn't absorbed the marketing strategery will tell you that the Gayle Bradley is the spendier knife.

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Same thing with steak.

I'm not dissing the spendy stuff. I own, use and enjoy CRK, Busse, Emerson, Strider, etc. And a spendy knife can be marginally "better" in some respects than a middle of the road knife. But there is clearly some premium pricing strategery going on there, along with a lot of other marketing psychology. Hand a Spyderco Gayle Bradley and a Strider SNG to Average Joe, and ask him which one cost $475, and I bet that a person who hasn't absorbed the marketing strategery will tell you that the Gayle Bradley is the spendier knife.

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A steak expert at Wal_Mart..... Now that is funny since they don't actually do any cutting, it's all prepacked..... I don't buy prepacked meat period......

And for those who do cut meat it all comes from the same place for the most part..... Store name doesn't matter either, it's all the same.....

Unless they are a smaller Store and buy locally as some actually do, then that is different.... I know as I used to work for one of them years ago....

And in the end the largest difference is how the steak is actually prepared......
 
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But you can get knives on the Cutlery Corner Network for $1.97!!! Why would anyone want to pay more than that?? :D
 
The prices of knives blows my mind!
What is the deal with such high prices?
I can purchase high quality firearms for the prices of lots of knives out there.
So is it supply and demand? I really enjoy the autos, and they are really crazy in price. I get craftsmanship aspect and all but my goodness there is some pretty high end knives out there!
Guns often have tons more milling and hand work and metal involved in making them, and you could easily spend as much money on a production knife, microtech, benchmade as you would on a glock!
Just curious on others thoughts....?

Because you have people like most on this forum who'll spend $1000s to pay the ridiculous prices... They've been a victim of marketing & compulsive buying.
 
Because you have people like most on this forum who'll spend $1000s to pay the ridiculous prices... They've been a victim of marketing & compulsive buying.

Hardly..... ;)

Most people don't spend over $200 on a knife...... If you read the forums....

Yes, some HIGH END Customs cost quite a lot... And a few select model Busse's...

But for the most part people generally spend between $50 and $500.......
 
Hardly..... ;)

Most people don't spend over $200 on a knife...... If you read the forums....

Yes, some HIGH END Customs cost quite a lot... And a few select model Busse's...

But for the most part people generally spend between $50 and $500.......

Spending upwards to $100 for a 3 inch blade is blade is a rip off to me. That's just my opinion. You have people who need a basic EDC knife for basic task, e.g., opening boxes and packages etc, but when they post here, dozens of people will tell and try and convince them that they need to buy a $50-$150 over priced knife because their $15 knife is sh*t. Then they feel the need that they too have to over pay... The market is high because people are willing to and proudly will pay the outrageous prices.
 
Spending upwards to $100 for a 3 inch blade is blade is a rip off to me. That's just my opinion. You have people who need a basic EDC knife for basic task, e.g., opening boxes and packages etc, but when they post here, dozens of people will tell and try and convince them that they need to buy a $50-$150 over priced knife because their $15 knife is sh*t. Then they feel the need that they too have to over pay... The market is high because people are willing to and proudly will pay the outrageous prices.
Take your whining and leave this forum. You dont love knives.
 
Spending upwards to $100 for a 3 inch blade is blade is a rip off to me. That's just my opinion. You have people who need a basic EDC knife for basic task, e.g., opening boxes and packages etc, but when they post here, dozens of people will tell and try and convince them that they need to buy a $50-$150 over priced knife because their $15 knife is sh*t. Then they feel the need that they too have to over pay... The market is high because people are willing to and proudly will pay the outrageous prices.


Opinions...... ;)

But for the most part with knives you get what you pay for, typically the sweet spot is in the $100 to $250 Range when it comes to quality, materials, craftsmanship etc.

Depends on what people want, what kind of performance etc...
 
When my wife goes to the high end store and drops $300.00 - $400.00 on ONE purse, I don't say a word. Sure she could get A purse at Wallyworld for $20 bucks. I could get A knife there too for $20 bucks. She wants quality (and the name brand, status, etc). I want to take my GSO 10 and chop down some small trees to build a shelter in the woods. That $20 buck wallyworld knife might do it, but not time after time, year after year.
My lunch tastes better when it's cut up with one of my GEC's, Emersons, or BM's. LOL

You get the idea...............
 
I've never thought that any of my knives were a rip off, no matter how much I CHOSE to pay for them.
 
I've never thought that any of my knives were a rip off, no matter how much I CHOSE to pay for them.

I think people get way to carried away with price thinking they will get something for nothing, and that just doesn't happen.... Not in the real world..... Maybe in their own mind....

If people would actually shop for quality they would actually get what they pay for.... And be much happier in the end....

If you pay for lead, you don't get gold.... So don't ever expect to.....
 
My reference knives are Spydercos that run $50 new. I will pay a little more to get something that has one fun feature or another. But in terms of bang one could go out and buy a Delicate or Endura and they could run that edc for a decade. But that would be boring wouldn't it?
 
Spending upwards to $100 for a 3 inch blade is blade is a rip off to me. That's just my opinion. You have people who need a basic EDC knife for basic task, e.g., opening boxes and packages etc, but when they post here, dozens of people will tell and try and convince them that they need to buy a $50-$150 over priced knife because their $15 knife is sh*t. Then they feel the need that they too have to over pay... The market is high because people are willing to and proudly will pay the outrageous prices.


Never heard of William Henry I guess then... :rolleyes::cool:


Signs up on Bladeforums, then bashes collecting knives. :confused:;)
 
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