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Whydan is a bad seller
- Thread starter Dasyatis
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when i have told to Whydan that liner have problem, he told me that he was confident that the terzuoula was in safe condition when sent... he feel this is an attempt to take advantage of this transaction, regain money and keep product.
Im trying to remain polite and calm, but it is really a dishonest man
So, Mr Terzuola tell me that knife require a new spring
But he cannot repair it before February.
Im trying to remain polite and calm, but it is really a dishonest man
So, Mr Terzuola tell me that knife require a new spring
But he cannot repair it before February.
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Did you pay by Paypal?
If so, and the seller refuses to help out, open an item not as described dispute.Show PP those pics of the damaged knife.
If so, and the seller refuses to help out, open an item not as described dispute.Show PP those pics of the damaged knife.
It really doesn't matter what he thinks as that liner has been destroyed and is not in safe working order. The fact that the attempted repair, or more acurately described damage, is was not indicated in the original sale is nothing short of deception. Having the lock side liner replaced is the only way to fix the problem and is what should have been done in the first place.
Amazing and about the dumbest thing I've seen someone do to a knife, to make it somewhat functional.
Here's the sale thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/899817-Terzuola-ATCF-and-Chuck-Gedraitis-Snub-Nose
According to the seller (only a partial quote of the opening sale thread),
It seems the seller was quite methodical in describing the knife and existing defects. A shame if he sent the buyer the knife with the lock in that condition!
Has anyone sent WhyDan a link to the GB&U thread?
Sorry Dasyatis and to all here on this forum.
I have had this particular knife for some time and had not noticed this issue...but then again I had never disassembled it to see nor did I have a lock failure that would have warranted me looking deeper into the mechanics of the lock. I bought the knife second hand and once I received it felt it was too thin for my taste. It sat unused until recent events have forced me to sell my possessions. Additionally, I would never butcher such a specimen and then attempt to pass it off to some unsuspecting buyer. I have greater respect for my knives and greater respect for my fellow enthusiasts. Please understand that I would never knowingly sell a knife that I had found to be dangerous! It would still be sitting in my collection (problem unnoticed) if personal circumstance were different. Furthermore my late response to this matter has everything to do with not having extra time to devote to by passions and hobbies. As my professional and private life is falling apart my "stuff" is going away at a fraction of its value. And due to this I am unable to simply refund the buyers money. I am in the process of selling many other items and regretfully cannot make enough to manage a refund and maintain some dignity in my life. I do this with great shame and humility. I can only offer a humble apology for my oversight as I do very much appreciate all knifes and especially the custom works of many renowned makers that I have had the joy and pleasure of once owning.
I do realize I will be bashed for this and fully expect the assault.
My sincere apology to Christophe(Dasyatis) for my accusatory statements in our earlier exchange and for the condition of the knife...I did not know and would never have sold it if I was aware.
Respectfully,
Whydan
I have had this particular knife for some time and had not noticed this issue...but then again I had never disassembled it to see nor did I have a lock failure that would have warranted me looking deeper into the mechanics of the lock. I bought the knife second hand and once I received it felt it was too thin for my taste. It sat unused until recent events have forced me to sell my possessions. Additionally, I would never butcher such a specimen and then attempt to pass it off to some unsuspecting buyer. I have greater respect for my knives and greater respect for my fellow enthusiasts. Please understand that I would never knowingly sell a knife that I had found to be dangerous! It would still be sitting in my collection (problem unnoticed) if personal circumstance were different. Furthermore my late response to this matter has everything to do with not having extra time to devote to by passions and hobbies. As my professional and private life is falling apart my "stuff" is going away at a fraction of its value. And due to this I am unable to simply refund the buyers money. I am in the process of selling many other items and regretfully cannot make enough to manage a refund and maintain some dignity in my life. I do this with great shame and humility. I can only offer a humble apology for my oversight as I do very much appreciate all knifes and especially the custom works of many renowned makers that I have had the joy and pleasure of once owning.
I do realize I will be bashed for this and fully expect the assault.
My sincere apology to Christophe(Dasyatis) for my accusatory statements in our earlier exchange and for the condition of the knife...I did not know and would never have sold it if I was aware.
Respectfully,
Whydan
Whydan, its too bad you're having problems in your life, but you're not alone. If you can't refund his money, you should dig deep and pay for Terzuola's repair, it can't be more than 100 bucks or so. Even when life seems to be falling apart, doing the right thing in this instance can be one less thing to cause you stress. This is a community, and this simple act could redeem your standing. I don't see how the lockbar massacre could have been overlooked by a simple inspection of the knife, not even by taking it apart. I understand your situation, but you should be banned if you don't man up.
Hey- you bought a screwed up knife that resembles my screwed up life. What can I say but you're out of luck and look the other way. That is the attitude I got from the sellers response, all I can is pathetic! In addition I would always be worry of sellers who have less than 100 posts. I get the feeling they just come on here to sell their junk and leave! Hope the buyer gets all his money back, to me this is bull crap! I really don't care you're going through tough times who's not and look at it in a different way you made someone have a tough time by spending his hard earned money for junk which is what whydan is!
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Thats unbelievable.. he paid you the money, so you obviously have the ability to offer him a refund; you're choosing not to. When you buy/sell on this forum, you are agreeing to follow all transaction regulations, and if he wants a refund for the obvious issue, you're required to make good on it; you don't have the privilege of choosing what rules you will and will not follow. The economy is in shambles because of dishonorable people taking advantage of others, don't make yourself a part of the problem that has caused your life to "fall apart". Integrity is free.. GET SOME. Rant over.
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I have no sympathy. How many times on this thread have we seen someone come up with any "pity-me" excuse in the book, when what they really did was screw someone else over?
Whydan, doesn't matter what your circumstances are. You need to refund the money immediately.
OP, if he doesn't refund you stat, then start a postal investigation for mail fraud. Whydan will quickly learn that his life can get even worse if he deceives people, intentionally or otherwise.
Whydan, doesn't matter what your circumstances are. You need to refund the money immediately.
OP, if he doesn't refund you stat, then start a postal investigation for mail fraud. Whydan will quickly learn that his life can get even worse if he deceives people, intentionally or otherwise.
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If you won't refund his money you need to pay for the repair and postage fees.
Excuses like this are empty excuses as we have no idea if any of it's even true. I can't speak for anyone else here but I frankly don't care at all. Life is tough for everyone but that doesn't mean you can just bump someone out of money because you don't want to pay it back. And I use the words "don't want" rather than "can't" quite specifically. Just to fob this off is a very poor show indeed. :thumbdn:
Excuses like this are empty excuses as we have no idea if any of it's even true. I can't speak for anyone else here but I frankly don't care at all. Life is tough for everyone but that doesn't mean you can just bump someone out of money because you don't want to pay it back. And I use the words "don't want" rather than "can't" quite specifically. Just to fob this off is a very poor show indeed. :thumbdn:
I have an ATCF just like the one you sold to Dasyatis. You would have to be blind in one eye and unable to see out of the other to miss a dicked up lock!
Your description of the imperfections on the knife, in your sale thread, leads me to believe you knew of the lock condition. No one could be so methodical and miss the lock. Your willingness to walk away from refunding the money is also a sign you knew.
Dasyatis, I know you live in France and it seems WhyDan will not assist you in resolving this problem. My suggestion is to file a "Mail Fraud Complaint" against WhyDan. It's pretty easy. . . .here is the website: https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/forms/mailfraudcomplaint.aspx
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Sorry you are having issues but that is no excuse for your behavior with this sale. Knowingly or not, you misrepresented the knife and stuck the OP with an inferior product. You have no other choice morally but to make this right. Why should he bear the brunt for problems in your personal life? Seriously, this is the road you want to take here? I hope that straightening your situation out does not depend on more sales from this forum because I seriously doubt that your sale threads will be met with clamoring customers.
On a personal note, I could not maintain any dignity in my life had I passed this knife onto someone and didn't make it right.
It is interesting how you picked a International buyer to move your damaged merchandise onto.
Since Dasyatis lives in France his availability to an easy resolution of this problem is zero. Had you sold this abortion of a knife within the US you would have been open to a number of legal challenges. My guess is that you specifically targeted an International buyer who could basically do nothing about it.......My what a devious little man you are.
Fortunately Bob T can repair the knife and restore it to it's former glory........for a price.
If you had any personal honor at all you would do the decent thing and pay for the repair.
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Your in the process of selling many other items?
So man up, take the funds from other sales and pay the man back. Or, pay what you can over time until your paid up. There are these funny little things in life called solutions. A couple good ones have been brought up in this thread. You can't screw someone then expect to have zero responsibility. Man up and atleast attempt to do the right thing.
If you've had the pleasure of handling and owning many fine knives from many fine makers then you know the score. The knife was jacked up but you sold it for $450 because the maker has a good name.
Your "apology" came off as arrogant and empty.
Mercedes makes a nice car but if you run it into a tree your not gonna get full price for it.
So man up, take the funds from other sales and pay the man back. Or, pay what you can over time until your paid up. There are these funny little things in life called solutions. A couple good ones have been brought up in this thread. You can't screw someone then expect to have zero responsibility. Man up and atleast attempt to do the right thing.
If you've had the pleasure of handling and owning many fine knives from many fine makers then you know the score. The knife was jacked up but you sold it for $450 because the maker has a good name.
Your "apology" came off as arrogant and empty.
Mercedes makes a nice car but if you run it into a tree your not gonna get full price for it.