Wild hogs

Andy the Aussie said:
..... that depends entirely on where they are from and what nasties frequent the area. Certain it is NOT the case with most hogs here.
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You mean industrial waste and whatnot? Gangsters disposing of corpses, or poisons dumped? I edited my original post, making weeping generalizations.
 
Depends on what they eat, really. I know a few guys down in Florida who trap and grain feed any wild hog they intend on eating.
 
Most prob
Yonose said:
You mean industrial waste and whatnot? Gangsters disposing of corpses, or poisons dumped? I edited my original post, making weeping generalizations.
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What Andy is talking about is microbial. Viruses, parasites, disease, bad bacteria, all sorts of nasty bugs. Stuff that gets past cooking. Pick up a nasty worm and you're in a whole world of hurt.
 
Thanks Rob yes, such lovelies as leptospirosis, bucellosis, tularemia, Q fever etc. Animal born diseases.
 
RobStanley said:
Most prob


What Andy is talking about is microbial. Viruses, parasites, bad bacteria, all sorts of nasty bugs. Stuff that gets past cooking. Pick up a nasty worm and you're in a whole world of hurt.
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I thought the continent grew some of the cleanest meat in the world! Or do you mean that hogs are just filthy animals? I think the same would go for farm raised hogs though, wouldn’t it?
 
Ok thanks for the heads up! No more Australian beef for me! Now off to a doctor visit to see what parasite is eating away my brain tissue.
 
Wild hogs and game are not protected from otherwise preventable illness as are farmed critters. They are also more susceptible to carrying certain diseases such as the ones I mention.

Currawong said:
He's probably be referring to himself LOL. Hogs aren't too healthy after he's been through.
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.... that is a very good point.... ;)
 
Yonose said:
Ok thanks for the heads up! No more Australian beef for me! Now off to a doctor visit to see what parasite is eating away my brain tissue.
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...there is nothing wrong with Australian beef...or many wild game animals....I eat a metric shyte tonne of venison I hunt each year, but it is about understanding disease in GAME animals. Farmed beef is not a game animal. This was in response to your assertion that wild game was always healthier than farm stock mate. This is just not the case.
 
I reckon the TG-P would make an awesome sticker...

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Andy the Aussie said:
...there is nothing wrong with Australian beef...or many wild game animals....I eat a metric shyte tonne of venison I hunt each year, but it is about understanding disease in GAME animals. Farmed beef is not a game animal. This was in response to your assertion that wild game was always healthier than farm stock mate. This is just not the case.
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I did change my assertion from always to mostly. Not knocking farmers and their fine products, but are you saying that eating wild game will cause the diseases you mentioned even when cooked properly? Cattle that are fattened the old fashioned way, by herding them from pasture to pasture on the way to slaughter are eating grasses off the ground, whether here or in the US a hundred years ago. Feedlots are notorious for breeding antibiotic resistance and inflammatory response via human consumption while fed a diet of corn. If your livelihood depends on this I’m sorry, but corn fed beef tastes good for the same ultimate reason that sugar does. It promotes pleasure in the short term but disease long term. If you are saying wild boar is unhealthy I defer to your expertise, but that doesn’t mean that farm raised hogs are necessarily any safer. Possibly even less so. I’ll retract what I said earlier and hope you burn whatever swine you shoot in the future!
 
Yonose said:
I did change my assertion from always to mostly. Not knocking farmers and their fine products, but are you saying that eating wild game will cause the diseases you mentioned even when cooked properly? Cattle that are fattened the old fashioned way, by herding them from pasture to pasture on the way to slaughter are eating grasses off the ground, whether here or in the US a hundred years ago. Feedlots are notorious for breeding antibiotic resistance and inflammatory response via human consumption while fed a diet of corn. If your livelihood depends on this I’m sorry, but corn fed beef tastes good for the same ultimate reason that sugar does. It promotes pleasure in the short term but disease long term. If you are saying wild boar is unhealthy I defer to your expertise, but that doesn’t mean that farm raised hogs are necessarily any safer. Possibly even less so. I’ll retract what I said earlier and hope you burn whatever swine you shoot in the future!
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Over use of antibiotics and growth hormones is not good of course but a stringy piece of wild hog is not going to have anything close to the nutrients of a grain fed hog. I would much, much rather eat a farm grown hog than something I'd shot in the woods that was eating who-knows-what. Pigs are nasty, lovable, opportunistic creatures. They will eat anything that falls in their reach.
 
grogimus said:
Over use of antibiotics and growth hormones is not good of course but a stringy piece of wild hog is not going to have anything close to the nutrients of a grain fed hog. I would much, much rather eat a farm grown hog than something I'd shot in the woods that was eating who-knows-what. Pigs are nasty, lovable, opportunistic creatures. They will eat anything that falls in their reach.
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A good friend of my mother’s lost her husband while he out was feeding their pigs. Not enough left for an autopsy, but doctor suggested a heart attack caused him to fall, at which point he became the main course. Dogs often eat lips and othe parts of their owners who died alone. I’m sure it was out of love and respect that they act the way they do. Pigs have such wonderful sense of smell it’s hard to believe they would eat something truly disgusting and unsanitary. Wouldn’t their sense of smell let them know what they were eating was “filthy, disease-ridden etc.” ?
 
I've always heard that pigs were cleaner eaters than chickens- Modern hog operations are pretty sanitary- tip for the non farmers- golden rule is, you never walk in a hog barn unless invited cause they don't know where you've been and don't want any germs you might carry in. Have ot think in the wild, it's a survival of the fittest. The sick or diseased don't survive on purpose, that Darwin thing at work.
I've seen what hogs can do in Florida overnight and it's amazing. It looks like a 8 year old got a small dozer to start and tried his hand at "Mr' Equipment Operator" and just made a huge mess- it's truly amazing what they can do really fast.
 
Yonose said:
A good friend of my mother’s lost her husband while he out was feeding their pigs. Not enough left for an autopsy, but doctor suggested a heart attack caused him to fall, at which point he became the main course. Dogs often eat lips and othe parts of their owners who died alone. I’m sure it was out of love and respect that they act the way they do. Pigs have such wonderful sense of smell it’s hard to believe they would eat something truly disgusting and unsanitary. Wouldn’t their sense of smell let them know what they were eating was “filthy, disease-ridden etc.” ?
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I grew up raising pigs. The only time I missed school was because I was out in the farrowing pens with the sows all hours. For some reason they seemed to have an aversion to having babies on a shiny, happy day or during daylight hours. Pigs are still pigs though. I was taught from the get go that if you fall down in a hog pen you could be dinner.

When I got to a sow too late and she'd already farrowed there were plenty of times that a well handled, named pig with documented generations of good motherhood had already eaten her own babies. They're smart, creative animals but they can be cruel and vicious also. My pigs were more pets than my dogs were but I also knew that they'd eat me if they got the chance. Fortunately, I knew that if I raised them right, there would be bacon at the end of the process.

Oh, and pigs will happily eat their own shit so they will certainly eat something truly disgusting and unsanitary. Different strokes for different species I guess.
 
Leonardo63 said:
I've always heard that pigs were cleaner eaters than chickens- Modern hog operations are pretty sanitary- tip for the non farmers- golden rule is, you never walk in a hog barn unless invited cause they don't know where you've been and don't want any germs you might carry in. Have ot think in the wild, it's a survival of the fittest. The sick or diseased don't survive on purpose, that Darwin thing at work.
I've seen what hogs can do in Florida overnight and it's amazing. It looks like a 8 year old got a small dozer to start and tried his hand at "Mr' Equipment Operator" and just made a huge mess- it's truly amazing what they can do really fast.
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Most diseases become more infectious (in the same Darwinian fashion) when large quantities of animals live together in close proximity. Add a visit from a chicken farmer and you’ve got a potentially dangerous flu!
 
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