Will there be a 2017 forum knife?

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My apologies if this is a simplistic question, when referencing the idea of a TC Barlow, are we talking about one based on the #14 or #15 frame? I believe both have been done? I personally would prefer the smaller size.
 
Well, I've been assuming the #15 this entire time for some reason. A cursory scan back through the posts though provides me with nothing to support my assumption.

Now I may actually think it could be the #14. Although I prefer the #15's size, I would be excited for the next iteration of the #14.

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A 14 with a wharncliffe blade and natural canvas micarta, that's getting kinda unique :thumbup: :D
 
22-rimfire said:
I have no issue with a TC Barlow as this year's forum knife. My understanding is that things are not decided in terms of pattern. CC doesn't necessarily "put up the cash" since the knives are mostly purchased on a pre-order basis. There may be a few that are included in the order that are not spoken for, but not many based on past discussions.

Let's not make this knife "too unique" (just my opinion).
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Neither do I but I certainly agree with those who favour a different pattern each year-conditions permitting. As for the cash question, Frank pointed out that the Forum needs to know that the venture is viable&secure. So I would imagine that GEC require some money security before embarking on an order of 500 knives...... Just to put that figure into perspective, the 2008 knife was a 50 item run.

The idea that this might be a 14 Barlow certainly is interesting, it would be a small knife, something not seen since the first Forum Knife from CS. Moreover, it's not been run as a Sheepfoot either, its bigger cousin the 15 certainly has.
 
I have one of CC's #14 Barlows with two blades. Nice little knife. I like it a lot. I'm open to the design or choice of blades... wharnies are fine with me. It wasn't so many years ago that wharnies were fairly uncommon.

Added: I don't know the procedure relative to special orders with GEC in terms of a deposit. Once a knife is settled on and GEC agrees to make it.... folks here begin placing orders and that would be used for a security deposit. Are there risks? Certainly as we don't know what the future holds and there is a distant possibility that a deposit could be forfeited in a worst case scenario. Doubt it will happen. Many here would simply donate their pre-order to avoid that.
 
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Neither do I but I certainly agree with those who favour a different pattern each year-conditions permitting. As for the cash question, Frank pointed out that the Forum needs to know that the venture is viable&secure. So I would imagine that GEC require some money security before embarking on an order of 500 knives...... Just to put that figure into perspective, the 2008 knife was a 50 item run.

The idea that this might be a 14 Barlow certainly is interesting, it would be a small knife, something not seen since the first Forum Knife from CS. Moreover, it's not been run as a Sheepfoot either, its bigger cousin the 15 certainly has.
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In past years GEC got half their money when the order was placed with them. The balance when the order was ready to be shipped from GEC. A lot of the knives in previous years were not purchased until months after the final payment to GEC. We've had organizers who did not get all their money back for quite a few months. So, when folks say how anyone could do this, it falls on my deaf ears.
 
I dont knoe that this suggestion is of any use, since Charlie already offered to do it, and since it will be a TC barlow that will sell out in minutes. BUT... We could do some kind of pre-order, or a crowd funding deal like IndieGoGo or Kickstarter. That way it's paid for up front.
 
Frank, you and I know that the forum knife has always been a labor of love and almost every year someone makes the inference that the volunteers are making a profit and every year the organizers find themselves defending the donation of their time and sometimes materials explaining that this isn't a profitable adventure for anyone but the people selling them on the secondary market somewhere down the road.

Every year I thank the volunteers and it just seems that the past few years the names Barry and Charlie to name just 2 are associated with the knife again. Thanks guys, thanks for all you do and have done in the years past to continue bringing us an annual knife.
 
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T. Erdelyi said:
Frank, you and I know that the forum knife has always been a labor of love and almost every year someone makes the inference that the volunteers are making a profit and every year the organizers find themselves defending the donation of their time and sometimes materials explaining that this isn't a profitable adventure for anyone but the people selling them on the secondary market somewhere down the road.

Every year I thank the volunteers and it just seems that the past few years the names Barry and Charlie to name just 2 are associated with the knife again. Thanks guys, thanks for all you do and have done in the years past to continue bringing us an annual knife.
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The more I think about this, the more I tend to agree with people that the 15 TC barlow may not be a good choice for this knife. I think the TC barlow needs to be its own knife, and there is a separate tradition around the BF knife. Both should be respected.

I'm also unconvinced that micarta (which seems favoured) would work well. I have the 77 NF barlow. And I'm not convinced that the nail nick on the sheepfoot blade looks good - those 15 crown lifters have not been a strong seller in that configuration. There seems to be a risk that by cost cutting and mixing two traditions, we'd end up with a compromise that hasn't got a lot going for it.

So, why don't we see if there are any other patterns on offer that might work with Charlie, especially if that might open up options?

At the very least, I think reverting to the long pull seems like a sensible idea.

 
I agree with camilluis that the forum knife should have an individual charater. How about something like this cattaraugus very curved serpintine jack.
 
I'm going to stay out of the discussion. I will happily pre-pay for whatever is chosen.
 
I don't have time to read every thread on this.
Whatever knife you choose, please get a screwdriver/caplifter on it, and also make it stainless. Yes 1095 is an amazing knife steel but it rusts. We're in the 21st century and I find 20th century 420hc to be just fine, not to mention S35VN. Patina on a blade is for those to lazy to clean, and stainless is for those who want a clean blade but are too lazy to clean it. Of course if you're going to actually carry and use the knife, a screwdriver must be on it. I've ruined too many barlows to carry a knife that doesn't have a screwdriver.
 
bt93 said:
Patina on a blade is for those to lazy to clean, and stainless is for those who want a clean blade but are too lazy to clean it.
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Huh?

Of course if you're going to actually carry and use the knife, a screwdriver must be on it. I've ruined too many barlows to carry a knife that doesn't have a screwdriver.
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Perhaps you need to carry a SAK or a scout.
 
Yeah, an alox sak is a better option than stuffing up a nice knife. I sometimes do more than I should with a few blades, but cringe when knives are used as prybars and screwdrivers.
But back on topic, looking forward to a Barlow for the forum knife
 
bt93 said:
I don't have time to read every thread on this.
Whatever knife you choose, please get a screwdriver/caplifter on it, and also make it stainless. Yes 1095 is an amazing knife steel but it rusts. We're in the 21st century and I find 20th century 420hc to be just fine, not to mention S35VN. Patina on a blade is for those to lazy to clean, and stainless is for those who want a clean blade but are too lazy to clean it. Of course if you're going to actually carry and use the knife, a screwdriver must be on it. I've ruined too many barlows to carry a knife that doesn't have a screwdriver.
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Are you trolling?
If not, then I'd advise going to the hardware store and buying one of the many stainless multi-tools I see for sale there. We are discussing a traditional forum knife.


Back to Forum Knife discussion: If this TC were made on the #14 frame, would that be a different enough pattern for those folks worried about repeating ourselves? I think it would be very different than the Queen made stag version.

Thanks to those who do the work herding cats on this project and I'll be grateful if I can get a forum knife this year.
 
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