William Henry not always so great.

Jos,
I thought that anyone who wrote enough English to be able to correspond with this forum would be able to read and understand what I had written. I apologize for having offended you.
Unfortunately, when I tried posting photos in the past, there were so many hoops to jump through simply trying to get myself allowed to do so that I decided--given the two or three times total that I've ever even read anything on this website--that it wasn't worth the effort.
The knife's tip on the front (obverse) side looked like it had been dropped straight onto the point from several feet in the air onto a solid steel surface. The first part of the blade behind the point appeared to have crumbled/crumpled/rippled/collapsed/accordioned in reaction to the impact. However, the back of the blade (the reverse side) was perfectly ground in that same length of the blade. Clearly, one side of the blade had received a great grinding, while the other side had either been improperly ground in the first place, or it had been messed up during a finishing process.
Hope this helps. Oh--I've never read any postings on this site in anything other than English, in my own defense. Being a former Ph.D. candidate in English literature, a published scientific paper author, a published short story author, and a script writer/doctor, I've always received feedback that said that my writings were understandable. Combining the two, I never figured that anything I wrote was to be read by a barely English-literate person who wouldn't understand what I had written.
Again, my apologies if I offended you. Doc
 
Dr. Craig Merrell said:
Unfortunately, when I tried posting photos in the past, there were so many hoops to jump through simply trying to get myself allowed to do so that I decided--given the two or three times total that I've ever even read anything on this website--that it wasn't worth the effort.
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All you had to do was explain that you don't know how to post pics. Sniping at people for making a simple and very common request is out of line.

It's not that we can't visualize what you're describing, it's that we can't reconcile our estimation of rippled, wavy, whatever, with yours. What I think is the condition of your knife is probably nothing like the actual reality. Posting pics alleviates any misinterpretation. It also let's us know who's just lying or nit-picking.
 
Good point. Sorry about the sniping, but you wouldn't believe some of the personal e-mails I received about this thing. People have called me a liar, saying that no doctor would ever give up that kind of a job to become a peace officer; some have called me a B.S. artist, trying to get a free knife out of William Henry; one guy actually listed all of his supposed martial arts qualifications and challenged me to meet him to settle things (I have no idea where that guy was coming from, since I know he was neither Matt Conable nor Bill Matthews.), and I could hit him with the criminal charge of making terroristic threats from what he wrote; and so on. Like I said, I've read and/or written things concerning BladeForums just a few times in my life, and the left-field things that people came at me with make me glad that I've gone that route. This is definitely the last time I'll ever have anything to do with this website. Clearly, some of the users have family trees that are simple sticks. Doc

P.S. I forgot to mention that I was a knifemaker for 15 years, I've been collecting for 46 years, and I have a collection appraised at over $30,000 right now. I do most definitely know what to look for, having made, sold, bought, and/or traded knives for several decades.
 
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Dr. Merrell, with all the experience you have, it sure would be great to have you spend more time discussing knives here on Bladeforums. You've been a member for a long time, but you haven't done much posting.
 
Thank you, but, sorry: too much petty sniping by too many of the subscribers. And I goofed--I hadn't realized that I'd posted so many responses to replies to a couple of initial threads I'd started. Doc
 
No cheap shot; simply accurately reporting what kind of shape the knife was in when I took it out of the box. If you'll do a search, you'll note that I've highly complimented Gordon Chard and Dr. Fred Carter for the collaboration they made that I bought a number of years ago. I don't just write letters of complaint; I also write letters of praise. As for William Henry, after the "so what?" response I'd first gotten, I decided to post the issue on this site. It worked. W/H got back to me within 24 hours, offerring to help with the problem. Yours truly, Doc
 
Dr. Craig Merrell said:
Thank you, but, sorry: too much petty sniping by too many of the subscribers. And I goofed--I hadn't realized that I'd posted so many responses to replies to a couple of initial threads I'd started. Doc
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Then why bother posting this or being a member here?

Oh I get it; you are an active member when its' self-serving.

Is it that BFC is not worthy of you participation? There are a slew of members here that do not have $30,000 collections but love to learn from those that do. You would be a superb source of knowledge here and I certainly would have benefited from your participation on this forum, I'm one of those who do not have collections worth anything to anyone but me andlearn from others every day............................Oh well:(
 
Dear Wolfman,
Per you, "Then why bother posting this or being a member here?"
I'm a member because a member of the Knifemakers' Guild suggested I try it to see if it appealed to me. It did not. Why? Because people like you, rather than reading things like that I had a problem and then seeing what happened or offering advice (Luckily, people like you have been the minority.), chose instead to call names, try to belittle, attempt to make me feel like a snob--and all with the educational writing abilities of a 7th grader.
Why did I bother posting this particular incident? To get results, which I did. Unfortunately, I also got called names, was challenged at every turn regarding whether or not I knew what I was talking about, and was even challenged in one e-mail to duke it out with some dufus who's apparently some sort of U.F.C. wannabe.
You, "Oh [,] I get it; you are an active member when its' [sic] self-serving."
So, tell me, do you participate in this forum's activities simply to serve others? Do you volunteer information without ever gathering any? Because you then went on to tell me that I would be a superb source of knowledge here and that you certainly would have benefited from my participation in this forum; but I guess that doesn't count as self-serving, because it serves you, and you must be special. ("You would be a superb source of knowledge here [sic] and I certainly would have benefited from your participation on [sic] this forum, [sic]...")
You asked, "Is it that BFC is not worthy of you [sic] participation? There are a slew of members here that do not have $30,000 collections but love to learn from those that do." Your insinuation is that I'm a rich snob, when all I was trying to do was let people know the extent to which I have dedicated my efforts and studies to learning about and acquiring significant pieces. I only did so AFTER a few readers questioned my ability to judge whether or not the first W/H knife I received was in actuality defective (I was accused of not knowing what I was talking about.), and letting them know that I wasn't a simple beginner who collects ten-dollar celluloid folders where knives are concerned seemed to be an appropriate thing to do. I didn't mention the extent of my collection until after I'd received not only the snide public come-backs, but a number of private e-mails that all but called me out to the parking lot after school. I felt it logical to offer evidence of my experience with knives. Did it also bother you that I've spent 15 years in making knives, totally from scratch? Was that too much of an apparent attempt at bragging on my part, or did it let you know that I have personally designed and fabricated dozens of knives? How about my eventual mention of having been involved with knives for 46 years? Did that somehow belittle you, or did you leave it alone because that didn't matter to you or you forgot to bring it up, too?
This is a forum, which means it is a public place for people to openly air their opinions, and it is--I presume--frequented by all sorts of people, socioeconomically and educationally speaking. Therefore, anyone is "worthy" of participating. Asking me if I don't think that the forum is "worthy" of my participation sounds to me like a very small person with a fragile sense of self-worth trying to verbally attack someone perceived to be that person's better. I'll take that as a compliment to myself and a reason to feel sorry for you.
I hope that someday you get to have as big or expensive or exclusive or self-made a collection as you'd like to have. I hope that you eventually know enough about knives that you'll sit down at your computer on a daily basis, simply to share your vast knowledge with the other participants in this forum's proceedings. I hope that you feel a constant sense of self-worth and a worthiness of contributing to this forum.
Me--I've posted a couple of things since I joined in 1999, and I'm sorry I ever even got involved. Why? Because of the responses of people like you. While there have been a number of very nice participants who have offered helpful advice and to whom I extend my most sincere thanks, there have been even more people--like you--who have used this forum to personally attack me in whatever way seemed to suit them at the time. (Not everyone is aware of just how many people like you, because most of the personal attacks have come via direct e-mails to my home.) It's because of people like you, Wolfman, people who don't even use their real names on forums such as this, that I choose not to participate in any more of this forum's give-and-takes. Congratulations: You and people like you have driven away what you yourself called a potentially "superb source of knowledge here" from whom you may "have benefited from (my) participation on this forum." You must be so proud. Bye, and have a nice life, Doc
 
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Dr. Craig Merrell said:
Jos,
I thought that anyone who wrote enough English to be able to correspond with this forum would be able to read and understand what I had written. I apologize for having offended you.
Unfortunately, when I tried posting photos in the past, there were so many hoops to jump through simply trying to get myself allowed to do so that I decided--given the two or three times total that I've ever even read anything on this website--that it wasn't worth the effort.
The knife's tip on the front (obverse) side looked like it had been dropped straight onto the point from several feet in the air onto a solid steel surface. The first part of the blade behind the point appeared to have crumbled/crumpled/rippled/collapsed/accordioned in reaction to the impact. However, the back of the blade (the reverse side) was perfectly ground in that same length of the blade. Clearly, one side of the blade had received a great grinding, while the other side had either been improperly ground in the first place, or it had been messed up during a finishing process.
Hope this helps. Oh--I've never read any postings on this site in anything other than English, in my own defense. Being a former Ph.D. candidate in English literature, a published scientific paper author, a published short story author, and a script writer/doctor, I've always received feedback that said that my writings were understandable. Combining the two, I never figured that anything I wrote was to be read by a barely English-literate person who wouldn't understand what I had written.
Again, my apologies if I offended you. Doc
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glad it all worked out for ya.

i can understand many reasons not to post pics, no camera being one, but if i can post pics on this site imho anyone can lol.

FWIW the need for pics is driven by the fact that some folks have agendas other than a defective knife and post to cause problems/make the maker look bad/etc, in other words they lie about things.

not saying YOU do, but some folks have been known to stretch the truth a little for whatever reason.

thus the need for pics.

if folks are sending ya threatening emails thats wrong & ya should contact admins about it,
 
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I am glad this finally was settled.

As far as threatening emails that is not something we will put up with. If you wish to contact me or another mod, we can address that situation also.
 
Dr. Craig Merrell said:
too much petty sniping by too many of the subscribers.
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wolfmann601 said:
Then why bother posting this or being a member here?

Oh I get it; you are an active member when its' self-serving.

Is it that BFC is not worthy of you participation? There are a slew of members here that do not have $30,000 collections but love to learn from those that do. You would be a superb source of knowledge here and I certainly would have benefited from your participation on this forum, I'm one of those who do not have collections worth anything to anyone but me andlearn from others every day............................Oh well:(
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This sort of comment is precisely why guys like Doc are not going to fuck around posting here.

I'm curious as to why you would jump on Doc because he has a legitimate gripe. WHK needed a quick note in client service and they performed when notified of the burr up their ass. That's what this entire forum is for.

Ira, THIS may be one of the reasons he has not posted much - when he does, this is the sort of shit he gets from BFC.

Maybe you need to back away from the computer and figure out how to talk with people again. It seems as though you're spending a little too much time in here insulated from the world.

And gents, as for taking shots at "respected" knife companies, it only takes one pissed off and angry customer to tell the world - WHK would be correct in being grateful for this forum, as it took a potentially excellent client and re-sold him on the company and its wares. That's what the GBU can be used for, but it only happens like this when the client starts out at the B and U.

Defending your favorite when they are clearly in the wrong, and yes, if you do read this language, you can understand what the man says. If not, I suggest the Marrion Webster web site as a resource.

To the usual Voices of Reason in this topic, thanks. It is appreciated.
 
Photos would have answered all and I would have been satisfied. Afterall, why post here unless you wish to alert others of a problem you encountered with a knife? Initially the fine Doctor gave ME the impression that he was refusing to post photos and since he is a Doctor-LEO we are to believe him in totality. It was not until the end that he informed us that he had great difficulty in posting pics.

And of course Parker you never have offred your opinion whether negaive or not and have never drawn a wrong conclusion, right? You see I am still learning about knives and as such photos are important. It is kind of like someone calling the Dentist and complaining of a toothache via telephone. Would the Doc not tell him/her to come in so he can SEE it for himself? Would he not support his diagnosis without X-rays? Of course not!!

And Doc made a decison a long time ago that BFC sucks. It has very little to what I posted. Why would he expect all of us to join him with his disappointment with a knife company, give the impression that his verbal explanation is good enough, if we cannot understand basic english...Blah blah blah. If you came here and complained about the condition of a knife you would post photos and if not explain why you cannot. You would not make it seem as your word is gospel and I am to believe it 100%.

I am glad it all worked out for him. I still have no clue what the problem is with the knife but who cares, it all worked out....................
 
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You want an accurate description of the problem, or, "My knife wasn't made correctly"? Me, I'd like to know the facts; but, then, I'm a cop who used to be a surgeon, and I'm kinda used to reading however many words it takes to describe something accurately.
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Sure, but would you appear in Court befor a Judge that has no clue who you are and expect the Court to find the person guilty without photos?
Especially when you give the impression that you could have taken them but don't need to because you said so. I bet the case would end in a not guilty, what would you bet? Now if you advised the Judge that there are no photos because of some great difficulty in obtaining them, developing them, printing them the Judge would then need to give your statement more weight.

And if my simple comment made you hate BFC then I am sorry. This is a superb place!!
 
Wolfy, you're still missing the point, but given how far up on the soap box you've climbed, us mere mortals can only assume this to be reasonable.

Once again, Good Bad and Ugly. Your myopic point of view is verging on Ugly at the moment.

When I make a mistake, I tend to go back and admit it. Then I try to correct it.

It's intellectually and emotionally dishonest to do anything else. (There is a HUGE HINT in here somewhere)

ANY knifemaker or anyone else can make a mistake in their production. WHK apparently did. He wanted it fixed. Nothing unreasonable there.

You demand pics, eh? So what? You'd be satisfied? How will that help him solve the problem, if I may be so bold to ask?

He posted here to specifically voice an opinion, and hopefully to get a soution in the works.

Precisely what are you able to effect in the way of a solution to this situation?

If nothing, then what need have you for pics, other than to spend a good portion of your day ranting and raving in front of a keyboard? Maybe you really do need to get outside and get some fresh air, or whatever works for you.

If you CAN effect a solution, then offer this up, but otherwise, this board is here primarily to notify the world at large about the quality of interactions between buyer/ seller or consumer/ maker. Anything not contributing to a positive solution is a simple waste of bandwidth, airspace and time.

So I re-read your last two posts, and I have to wonder, what is ANYONE supposed to gain from this?

Since you address this directly - regarding ANYONE reading this board or any other board in a language in which they are not entirely proficient: I have EXTENSIVE experience with folks who do not do English as a first language. I'll spare you the quals I have in this, other than to say I married into it.

I also worked in a limited-English-proficiency environment for a decade. They may say I worked with a limited proficiency in Korean and made the best of it.

If you want a copy of my marriage certificate and examples of the in-laws' proficiency in English, or if you want a copy of my work history so that I may move forward and potentially enlighten you here, you need your head examined. :rolleyes:

Let's move forward before your sarcasm detector starts to ping.

This conversation is in English, as are the majority of them on this board. If this excludes anyone due to a lack of linguistical or grammatical understanding, it is NOT the responsibility of the OP or anyone else to give language lessons. They may do so if they are in the mood, but keep in mind that if you were to go to a site done entirely in Taiwanese or German, you'd be expected to follow along.

If this is offensive, sorry. Tough cheese. Since by simple agreement the language of choice is English at this board, you need to be proficient in this language to fully participate. The gent from Belgium (sorry for not having your name entirely handy) is of course welcome to look the unfamiliar words up at Marrion Webster, and if he requires more clarification he can of course ask for it. It was even given freely by the OP, as well as an apology, which showed a lot of class, but was not warranted. Again, the simple English as used in this thread is all that is really required.

Wolfy, you are once again waving a red herring around screaming about the emperor's clothing.

That's too bad since we are discussing knives and your comportment/ self-indulgences here.

It's poor form to make the assumption that the OP has any responsibilities here outside of bringing a question or gripe to the table, and then discussing it, with the end goal to be satisfaction of his complaint. This may well include the Not-Posting of pics. He just wanted to get his knife fixed.

The problem with the knife? It had some problems and he was unhappy WHK treated him like crap about it. For $800 I'd say that is a very valid problem and needed to be addressed. Seems like there was a lot of useless noise around the problem, but true to form the BFC guys came thru for him. I'm pleased for this as well.

That's what this particular forum is for, not for your personal indulgence nor mine.

If you have anything more to waste time with here, drop me a PM about this. I'm likely not the only one who's seen enough of your sanctimonious nonsense here, and I'd prefer you not waste another moment of Spark's bandwidth on this publicly.
 
Dr. Craig Merrell said:
Jmy apologies if I offended you. Doc
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No apologies needed, I was not offended, just pointed out that it's easier to identify problems with pics. As SIF1A said, a lot of people have hidden agendas.

Parker said:
The gent from Belgium (sorry for not having your name entirely handy) is of course welcome to look the unfamiliar words up at Marrion Webster, and if he requires more clarification he can of course ask for it. It was even given freely by the OP, as well as an apology, which showed a lot of class, but was not warranted. Again, the simple English as used in this thread is all that is really required.
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Parker, the gent from Belgium does not need any help in understanding English. The gent from Belgium still thinks the OP should have posted pics. And now the gent from Belgium is out of here, as he thinks this thread has served it's purpose.

Kind regards,

Jos
 
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