Winter backpacking- wood processing saws/axes?

Agree. Snow makes thinks more sterile, for lack of a better term. Meaning your up off the mud, dirt, decomposing leaves, etc. Also much easier on a tents floor.

You also have an endless supply of water(as some know, there's diffidently a learning curve regarding melting snow for water), right there all around you(in deep snow, I'd often fill my pack cover with a huge pile of snow from a nearby drift..then drag it over to the tent and into the vestibule or just outside my tent door, if there's no vestibule. Presto! I have all the snow I'll prolly need right there IN the tents vestibule. I can then scoop snow at my leisure whenever needed with the pot while still in my cozy bag..like say at 8am when the winds blowing and it still -2 degrees ouside the tent :thumbup:). A few minutes later I'll have hot coffee, while never leaving the bag. Try that with a fire at those times.

Also, in deep snow and while going floorless..and say at 3am when it -2 degrees :)...one can just go to a corner of the floor space, drive the ice axe handle deep up to the axe into the snow..presto...instant deep-snow pee hole. Works awesome.

Winter its quieter.. no bugs.. no oppressive heat and humidity.. and very very little chance of seeing other people. And it has its own beauty:thumbup:. On the flip side, and because of..you better be careful, especially when solo. Fall and break a leg or whatever, and they might not find you till spring. If ever.

Agree with all the above, but lets keep it a secret else the uncultured masses will invade and thus destroy the solitude we find therein!!!

Here's a couple pics from a little jaunt up Mt. Marcy in Feb 2003

I'm the bloke on the right:
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I'm on the left in red (@ -25F and ~30mph winds - a wee bit chilly):
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and me again with my Integral Designs MK1 XL and vestibule:
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Agree with all the above, but lets keep it a secret else the uncultured masses will invade and thus destroy the solitude we find therein!!!

Here's a couple pics from a little jaunt up Mt. Marcy in Feb 2003

Was on Mt Marcy on two ten days solo trips the winter of 78 in January and Febuary
Wonderful place
Unfortunately the film in my camera crumbled from the cold
 
Was on Mt Marcy on two ten days solo trips the winter of 78 in January and Febuary
Wonderful place
Unfortunately the film in my camera crumbled from the cold

IIRC, 1978 boasted some *huge* snowfall amounts. I'd bet you had a great time!!!

What a disappointment loosing the photos.... I too love film photography, but unfortunately I've never been one to pack a camera on backcountry outings. I used an Olympus C-4000 digi cam to take these pics... Nothing special, but it managed the cold and humidity well.
 
What a disappointment loosing the photos....
yes

But the views are etched in my memory
 
fmajor007, I also have the optional vestibule for my MK1XL. I've seen better vestibules tho.. like the one(which I don't have at this point) made for my Bibler Eldorado(basically the same class tent as the MK1XL. just made in the US by Bibler. ID is made in Canada). I even had ID install some extra guy out loops on it before they shipped it. Still kinda loose/saggy.

Heres the Biblers vest(not my pics)..
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fmajor007, I also have the optional vestibule for my MK1XL. I've seen better vestibules tho.. like the one(which I don't have at this point) made for my Bibler Eldorado(basically the same class tent as the MK1XL. just made in the US by Bibler. ID is made in Canada). I even had ID install some extra guy out loops on it before they shipped it. Still kinda loose/saggy.

Heres the Biblers vest(not my pic)..
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I agree completely! Great minds think alike no? ;-)

The ID vestibule is not so good, but better than not having one at all. On advice from a few others more experienced than me (who have/had Bibler, ID and a couple other single walls) I went with the MK1XL and compromised on the vestibule... My MK1XL is a bit customized in that I had the tube-vents removed and an extra full-size door installed (with screens inside). Evan Jones, then Production Manager (owner?) and I spoke on the phone a few times to ensure he knew what I wanted and why. Now, Integral Designs has moved from Calgary to Louisville, CO with most products available to the military/gov't sector (like their sleeping bags....).
 
I'm not sure if I should be envious or trying to get y'all committed:D Either way, nice pics! Thanks.
 
I agree completely! Great minds think alike no? ;-)

The ID vestibule is not so good, but better than not having one at all. On advice from a few others more experienced than me (who have/had Bibler, ID and a couple other single walls) I went with the MK1XL and compromised on the vestibule... My MK1XL is a bit customized in that I had the tube-vents removed and an extra full-size door installed (with screens inside). Evan Jones, then Production Manager (owner?) and I spoke on the phone a few times to ensure he knew what I wanted and why. Now, Integral Designs has moved from Calgary to Louisville, CO with most products available to the military/gov't sector (like their sleeping bags....).

Yes.. Great minds:D.

Yup. Better then nothing. Sans of course the extra 1lb and bulk one has to carry.

I didn't know ID had move to the US. I've been lazy the last 10yrs keeping up with things.

Having that 2nd door is a great upgrade. Agree with the vents, since you don't need them anymore since you can now cross vent with the doors. Also keeps you from having to crawl over all your chit thats in the vestibule each time you go in/out of the tent.

For those not familiar with these waterproof breathable singlewall tents.. They were originally designed to replace the use of 2 bivys when a pair of climbers go for an summit attempt and such, on big chit like K2, Everest, Denali, etc. 2x Goretex bivys = about 5lbs total. These tents are about 5lbs. and equate to less bulk overall then the 2 bivys. And more importantly and unlike the bivys..they can also have the luxury of extra room for change of cloths, cook, playing cards, etc, inside while completely out of the elements. They're small foot print means they require a very small patch of ground(or ledge) to be pitched. Also, since the poles go in the inside as a simple X wedge design, they can be put up and back down again, from the inside. Minimizing exposure to oneself and gear to the elements. The downside is they WILL condensate somewhat in high humidity environments(they're made specifically for cold dry conditions, but can and will do well in the other instances). And, the cost a lot.

Note door opens from the top, zipping down each side. This is to allow the climbers to be able reach out and down, and clear out snow thats built up against the door, before being able to exit. The vents that fmajor007 had removed from his tent are shown in upper right corner of pic.


On the AT in Jan. on Cheoah bald with the wife at 5300'. Its technically a 2 person, but its tight with 2..AND 2 dogs that insist in sleeping with us:rolleyes:. Really a perfect 1 man tent in serious weather especially.


Next to 2 floorless Golite Hex's. Note reflective guy lines. They're designed to reflect against ones head lamp so you don't trip on it. Also so you can find them easier when in use. The cameras flash made them glow. We made this camp at 2am in Nov in the mtns here in NC.
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Mines in this pic at 11,600' in April. Also note Bilber Eldorado to the right.

Same trip. I cook, eat, make coffee, etc inside, easy as pie. Much easier then trying to make a fire at such a time.


View out my door while sipping hot coffee. Never had to leave the bag to make breakfast and coffee.

On another bald here in western NC near the house. At 5800' in Feb. It was around 4* and the wind was rocking. The dog is waiting to go back in the tent. Looking toward my house, its half down the ridge line just below that highest peak in the middle of pic and above the tents peak.

Same trip. It was pretty cold.

Back to the car. Wind was still buffeting me at this point.

Sunrise that trip.

My backyard.

My Megamid. They rock for dog duty.

The only pic of mine with the vest. Jan here in NC.

Same trip.




We had to hike 6-7 miles just to get to this p-lot. The Blue Ridge Parkway was gated.
 
Great pics and a very nice view from your backyard!

Makes me wish I had taken photo gear throughout the years...

Here's a pic from the deck off our kitchen/breakfast nook:

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It's the east side of Pikes Peak..
 
"Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that statement. "

Smile= that is how we get to buy such awesome vintage gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill
 
"Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that statement. "

Smile= that is how we get to buy such awesome vintage gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

We are vintage.......

Some guys go retro
I started with wool and canvas

And
What happened to the axes and saws in this thread?
I only carried stoves to cook, an opimus 99 gasoline with a pressure pump
And only used good gear to stay warm, never a fire
 
Cool?
No cold at -20

Centigrade? Yeah, that was the high the other day where I live.

I find it a little silly that people are making such a point of "I don't need an axe or a saw to winter camp." I've done lots of winter camping without a fire. And you know what? Fires are awesome. I LOVE coming back from a day of bitter cold hunting to a warm campfire.

Do I need it? Of course not - I could rely completely on a bunch of hi-tec gear to make it through the night, and I've done so many times. But here's the difference for me in those situations - it's winter, and it's dark by 5pm. It's not going to get light again till 6 or 7am. And it's -20 out. I can either climb into my sleeping bag and hunker for the next 12 hours, or I can get a fire going and we can be hanging out, eating, drinking and being comfortably warm until a reasonable hour to go to bed. I'll take the latter any day. Not because I need to, but because it makes winter camping much nicer and more fun, imo.

To each his own, but the OP was asking about lightweight wood-processing options...
 
Centigrade? Yeah, that was the high the other day where I live.

I find it a little silly that people are making such a point of "I don't need an axe or a saw to winter camp." I've done lots of winter camping without a fire. And you know what? Fires are awesome. I LOVE coming back from a day of bitter cold hunting to a warm campfire.

Do I need it? Of course not - I could rely completely on a bunch of hi-tec gear to make it through the night, and I've done so many times. But here's the difference for me in those situations - it's winter, and it's dark by 5pm. It's not going to get light again till 6 or 7am. And it's -20 out. I can either climb into my sleeping bag and hunker for the next 12 hours, or I can get a fire going and we can be hanging out, eating, drinking and being comfortably warm until a reasonable hour to go to bed. I'll take the latter any day. Not because I need to, but because it makes winter camping much nicer and more fun, imo.

To each his own, but the OP was asking about lightweight wood-processing options...

I agree. Needing and wanting are different things. Some people like to hike all day and see the sites, I like to hike a little and camp a little. Interacting with nature is why I go out. Nothing wrong with treating nature like a museum where you can't touch anything and in some areas that's what you should be doing. However, there's nothing wrong with making a fire as long as it's done responsibly and in area that doesn't see a lot of impact. One thing people have to keep in mind is that the US is huge and has all kinds of environments. An earlier poster was saying everywhere he camps was picked clean of branches from previous hikers but that's not always the case here. My wife and I camp near mt hood and there's wood everywhere. Way more than is getting used in campfires. Something to consider.
 
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