Witness the power of BJJ in a fight

[fugawee]

bjj
kung fu
no match for

 

[reddawn]

got that right fug:thumbup:running is a great defense

 

[lsheldon]

bjj
kung fu
no match for

Until they pull out this,

 

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It's really had to responde to threads like this without becoming overly prac-tac specific. "power of bjj" attributes a pretty specific source to jacksons powerbomb. The above video is of randleman doing a suplex against emelianenko, which I could directly attribute to wrestling, but I'd want to know where and how randleman learned it before doing so.


Parkour is no joke
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If there's anything I'd suggest to someone thinking of self defense that they aren't likely to get from a normal 'system' like bjj, it's
Rapid muscle recruiting based training ("explosive" power for strikes and moving your openent's body quickly)
Large dead weight training (sand bag, ala jacksons powerbomb)
Hand strength (if you can close a captains of crush #4 you can rip muscle from bone)
Hand endurance (think staying on a rock wall for an hour)
Chiropractic education
Judo as a ground-as-a-weapon system - your opponent should be unconscious when they reach the ground, or they should have a part of their body disabled/damaged/destroyed by the fall (neck, back, shoulder, elbow/arm)
Escape and evade - parkour and tactical awareness and use of evasion routes, should be available at all times, being trapped or fighting multiple aponnents is rarely worth attempting. being able to run is very important.

 

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well. for most people (including myself), limited parkour with an emphasis on speed and smaller obstacles.

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[giant1]

8 guys in this thread and I bet we are all watching the parkour vid :thumbup:

Great stuff.

 

[giant1]

Parkour fail

 

[BlackNinja]

The slam was nice, but not as nice as that kimora!

 

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Parkour fail

you gotta be realistic. I don't think of rampage jacksons power bomb as being part of the core idea of bjj. The story of grace fighting bigger guys in brazil by wearing them down is more in line with my idea of bjj as a core system. That powerbomb is just raw strength and explosive power. Don't assume you can do something until you train for it. be realistic. Parkour is very, very dangerous.

 

[philwar]

We've had a special guest training at our modest Purmerend Gym for the last week, and the coming week as well:

Fedor happy after the instruction I gave him...

Last pointers for the Legend!

The boys never thought they'd meet him in the flesh.

My gym and Team Fedor.

A rare honor to watch the man in action.

 

[TheBladeMaster]

The only thing that I see that's really good and tactical in parkour is the falling using body momentum so you don't break bones, other than that cool way to work out? Not a huge fan of parkour.

 

[FerFAL]

Is it only me that finds it ironic that people here (a knife forum ) go on and ona about BBJ for self defense completely overlooking that someone with a knife (even non INFI) can cut you up to death if you try 90% of what's taught in BJJ and other wrestling/grapplng martial arts?
FerFAL

 

[philwar]

Is it only me that finds it ironic that people here (a knife forum ) go on and ona about BBJ for self defense completely overlooking that someone with a knife (even non INFI) can cut you up to death if you try 90% of what's taught in BJJ and other wrestling/grapplng martial arts?
FerFAL

I don't think many here have any illusions to that effect. It's just not relevant to the debate.

 

[rpn]

Great photos of Fedor! Looks slimmer? The world stopped making sense when he dropped the last fight...

 

[Bravado]

Is it only me that finds it ironic that people here (a knife forum ) go on and ona about BBJ for self defense completely overlooking that someone with a knife (even non INFI) can cut you up to death if you try 90% of what's taught in BJJ and other wrestling/grapplng martial arts?
FerFAL

Well considering 90% of all street fights go to the ground what else do you suggest? I guess you could lie down and play dead.

 

[ChrisIhao]

Is it only me that finds it ironic that people here (a knife forum ) go on and ona about BBJ for self defense completely overlooking that someone with a knife (even non INFI) can cut you up to death if you try 90% of what's taught in BJJ and other wrestling/grapplng martial arts?
FerFAL

Well, I know a few guys that pretty easily could have caused you to drop your knife, unless specifically trained to counter said moves. Training makes all the difference.

It's really had to responde to threads like this without becoming overly prac-tac specific. "power of bjj" attributes a pretty specific source to jacksons powerbomb. The above video is of randleman doing a suplex against emelianenko, which I could directly attribute to wrestling, but I'd want to know where and how randleman learned it before doing so.

Thats what I love about MMA, the friendliness after the match is over (ordinarily).

Parkour is no joke

Nope. Incredible to watch. Probably one of the best things to have risen the last few decades. I'm frankly envious of those guys. Too late for me (the older you get, the harder you fall).

 

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The only thing that I see that's really good and tactical in parkour is the falling using body momentum so you don't break bones, other than that cool way to work out? Not a huge fan of parkour.

If parkour is taken as a form of gymnastics, sport or contest, then I agree with you. If it's taken as an idea, it has merit and value. It is worth training to scan your surroundings and know not only what escape routes are present, but what ones you are physically capable of managing quickly. I like to think of the essence of parkour as it's original military application, being able to work around city scapes in war time on foot, helping to lessen the limiting effect obstacles have on movement. A lot of guys train solely to stand and fight, parkour is just one option in the study of escape and evasion on foot. and it doesn't have to be complete escape and evasion on foot, it can me "how can I get to my car while slowing them down" etc.

Is it only me that finds it ironic that people here (a knife forum ) go on and ona about BBJ for self defense completely overlooking that someone with a knife (even non INFI) can cut you up to death if you try 90% of what's taught in BJJ and other wrestling/grapplng martial arts?
FerFAL

90% of all statistics are made up on the spot

like parkour I tend to think of BJJ in it's original concept, of Helio Gracie's story of taking on larger opponents by holding them and wearing them down until they could barely fight, a way of evening a one on one uneven fight. A lot of it, like parkour, has developed as a sport/competition, if you look at it from it's original concept (at least as I understand it) it makes more sense in it's limited, but useful, practicality. If you have no other form of grappling training, BJJ will give you *something* to use even if you don't consider it the best or dislike it's limited applicability.

 

[Bravado]

If parkour is taken as a form of gymnastics, sport or contest, then I agree with you. If it's taken as an idea, it has merit and value. It is worth training to scan your surroundings and know not only what escape routes are present, but what ones you are physically capable of managing quickly. I like to think of the essence of parkour as it's original military application, being able to work around city scapes in war time on foot, helping to lessen the limiting effect obstacles have on movement. A lot of guys train solely to stand and fight, parkour is just one option in the study of escape and evasion on foot. and it doesn't have to be complete escape and evasion on foot, it can me "how can I get to my car while slowing them down" etc.



90% of all statistics are made up on the spot

like parkour I tend to think of BJJ in it's original concept, of Helio Gracie's story of taking on larger opponents by holding them and wearing them down until they could barely fight, a way of evening a one on one uneven fight. A lot of it, like parkour, has developed as a sport/competition, if you look at it from it's original concept (at least as I understand it) it makes more sense in it's limited, but useful, practicality. If you have no other form of grappling training, BJJ will give you *something* to use even if you don't consider it the best or dislike it's limited applicability.

Gracie BJJ is a Martial Art.

 

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Gracie BJJ is a Martial Art.

So is Judo, that doesn't mean it's all-skills-inclusive, ideal for all people or for all situations.

 

[Bravado]

So is Judo, that doesn't mean it's all-skills-inclusive, ideal for all people or for all situations.

Yeah well no Martial Art fills that bill, it is a Martial Art though. My 15 year old kid destroyed a few Judo adult Black belts a few years ago when he went to the ground with them, two of them refused to tap and got choked unconscious.