Won't ship to N.Y. .... always a bummer :(

MattyLav said:
What if you shipped it to a relative in a different state?
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I had a guy I knew that lived right across the river in N.J. a few years ago that I had a can of UDAP spray sent to because the Ebay seller would not ship to N.Y.C.,
but I'm not in touch with him anymore.
I also feel funny about about relegating to someone else the responsibility of receiving then re-sending to me, perhaps it's just my sense personal responsibility??
But guess what.... that same Ebay seller, now ships to N.Y.C.!!

A few months ago I investigated paying for a P.O. box like somewhere right across the Hudson river like in Jersey City, Hoboken, Newark etc.
where I could just hop on a PATH train from Manhattan and go pick up whatever I had shipped to me...... but it turned out it would have been
a hassle, the cost of the item I bought, plus most places only rent you a P.O.B. for a min. of 6 months, not cheap either.

I have no relatives left, other than my Mom who just went into a Nursing home and sadly doesn't have much time left on earth, she's 86.
 
What is it that's intimidating these sites from shipping to N.Y.?
I'd like to understand what they are afraid might happen, or could happen to them
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I'll tell you why we (Blade HQ) won't ship to NYC. I've posted about it before. I think a lot of people (and dealers) still don't really don't understand what happened. In 2010 NYC went after a bunch of local dealers and one Internet dealer for selling "illegal knives." Guess who the Internet dealer was? I actually had to fly down to NYC with a giant team of lawyers to face off against them. It isn't a hypothetical thing we're afraid of or something that could happen. It's something that did happen. I spent over $40,000 in legal fees, travel and lobbying last year to ward off NYC's various attacks, threats, entrapment attempts, and extortion efforts. Anyone still shipping any knives to NYC without 100% of their butt covered just doesn't know what could happen to them. And customers who complain or who are confused obviously don't know what we went through. People forget history unless they are the ones who made it.

-Cam
 
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BladeHQ said:
I'll tell you why we (Blade HQ) won't ship to NY. I've posted about it before. I think a lot of people (and dealers) still don't really don't understand what happened. In 2010 NYC went after a bunch of local dealers and one Internet dealer for selling "illegal knives." Guess who the Internet dealer was? I actually had to fly down to NYC with a giant team of lawyers to face off against them. It isn't a hypothetical thing we're afraid of or something that could happen. It's something that did happen. I spent over $40,000 in legal fees, travel and lobbying last year to ward off NYC's various attacks, threats, entrapment attempts, and extortion efforts. Anyone still shipping any knives to NYC without 100% of their butt covered just doesn't know what could happen to them. And customers who complain or who are confused obviously don't know what we went through. People forget history unless they are the ones that made it.

-Cam
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So you decide to punish the whole state for one action?
I live in New York also I do get sick of the whole do not ship to New York, I live in a very small rural community, not a big city and knives and firearms are very common in my area.
It may your choice to ship to New York or not, but I will not support any dealer or person that will not ship to New York, period!!
 
BladeHQ said:
I'll tell you why we (Blade HQ) won't ship to NY. I've posted about it before. I think a lot of people (and dealers) still don't really don't understand what happened. In 2010 NYC went after a bunch of local dealers and one Internet dealer for selling "illegal knives." Guess who the Internet dealer was? I actually had to fly down to NYC with a giant team of lawyers to face off against them. It isn't a hypothetical thing we're afraid of or something that could happen. It's something that did happen. I spent over $40,000 in legal fees, travel and lobbying last year to ward off NYC's various attacks, threats, entrapment attempts, and extortion efforts. Anyone still shipping any knives to NYC without 100% of their butt covered just doesn't know what could happen to them. And customers who complain or who are confused obviously don't know what we went through. People forget history unless they are the ones that made it.

-Cam
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Thank you for relating the history of what transpired.
Terribly unfair and unfortunate that they did that to you.
I'll just have to keep looking and hopefully will find another dealer with that same reasonable price for the particular knife I wanted to purchase from your company.
Unless or until I find someone in N.J. to have it shipped to, unless you only ship to the cardholders address and no other?
I have purchased directly from Rob (Combative Edge) in the past, great service and rapid shipping to N.Y.C., unfortunately the price level differs both on Combative Edge as well as alternatively on Amazon.

Again, thank you for taking the time to reply, I was unaware of your unfortunate experience and monetary loss.

Mark
 
I live in Western New York also...our maniacal politicians have to go. The main problem is the pinhead DA and the Severely, mentally challenged mayor of NYC. I'm not ridiculing anyone with mental disorders...that's NO joke. I just don't understand how these people become governors, over the rest of us. A lot of problems in this state right now. King Cuomo is running amok over our second amendment rights...or, at least he's trying to.

I've purchased knives from BH before and never had a problem. However, I have encountered "Will not ship to NY State" in the past. A real shame. As other members have said in this thread, NY State is VERY different from NYC. Law abiding citizens in this state should not be punished for the fools that have been elected to office.
 
So you decide to punish the whole state for one action?
I live in New York also I do get sick of the whole do not ship to New York, I live in a very small rural community, not a big city and knives and firearms are very common in my area.
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We won't ship anything knife-related to NYC (New York City). That's part of our agreement. We ship non-restricted knives to NY state. NYC was very clear that they would like to have the entire state on our case, but for now that's not an issue.

-Cam
 
JDieseljoe69 said:
So you decide to punish the whole state for one action?
I live in New York also I do get sick of the whole do not ship to New York, I live in a very small rural community, not a big city and knives and firearms are very common in my area.
It may your choice to ship to New York or not, but I will not support any dealer or person that will not ship to New York, period!!
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Well, until your state decides to change its politics, as unfortunate as it may be for the residents, you may be looking at refusing to support an ever growing list of dealers. Like it or not, the stance your legislature takes is going to affect the way other states do business with you.
 
savagesmurf said:
it's not illegal to own, and as a resident, i can legally purchase it, so there's no reason not to ship to nyc. Those dealers are sheep. Companies like truenorthknives that claim to "support" kniferights, but meanwhile go against the very policies that kniferights organization is trying to uphold. "we think da vance's actions should be stopped, but meanwhile, we'll deprive nyc citizens of their right to purchase a knife, just like he wants." that makes sense...
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agree 100%
 
DRJames said:
Well, until your state decides to change its politics, as unfortunate as it may be for the residents, you may be looking at refusing to support an ever growing list of dealers. Like it or not, the stance your legislature takes is going to affect the way other states do business with you.
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Well slick, a lot easier said than done!!
 
BladeHQ said:
We won't ship anything knife-related to NYC (New York City). That's part of our agreement. We ship non-restricted knives to NY state. NYC was very clear that they would like to have the entire state on our case, but for now that's not an issue.

-Cam
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Not sure if they would have any legal claim on that.
 
BladeHQ said:
I'll tell you why we (Blade HQ) won't ship to NYC. I've posted about it before. I think a lot of people (and dealers) still don't really don't understand what happened. In 2010 NYC went after a bunch of local dealers and one Internet dealer for selling "illegal knives." Guess who the Internet dealer was? I actually had to fly down to NYC with a giant team of lawyers to face off against them. It isn't a hypothetical thing we're afraid of or something that could happen. It's something that did happen. I spent over $40,000 in legal fees, travel and lobbying last year to ward off NYC's various attacks, threats, entrapment attempts, and extortion efforts. Anyone still shipping any knives to NYC without 100% of their butt covered just doesn't know what could happen to them. And customers who complain or who are confused obviously don't know what we went through. People forget history unless they are the ones who made it.

-Cam
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I hate my municipal government SO MUCH

and look at Bloomberg spearpointing the attack on 2nd amendment.. It just makes me sick
 
The true sad thing is that in New York we have to pay for the politics of NYC when the rest of the state is truly a world a part.
 
Unfortunately, legal claim isn't always that relevant if they are intent on bleeding companies dry by forcing them to accrue enormous legal fees. It's a tactic large businesses use to shut down smaller competitors on an appallingly routine basis. Find a nitpicky was to sue and run the suit until the other company just runs out of money to defend themselves, and I think we can both agree that NYC has larger coffers. It's one of the major issues with our legal system.

I do agree that changing the stance of the legislature is much easier said than done, and I feel for you man, but if companies stand to lose more by getting tangled up in legal proceedings with the state than they do by halting sales to the state, at that point its just a business decision. The sad thing is, that's exactly what the folks running NYC want.

You could always come down to GA, where we lawless hooligans roam with their guns and knives on every street corner :friendly_wink:
 
chambelona59 said:
Richard, can you kindly tell me what the actual "risk" is?
Can you be arrested and jailed as if you sent an ounce of Cocaine to me????
I'm always asking the 1 out of 10 Ebay sellers that have stated in their auction; "will not ship to N.Y." even though N.Y. is not the same as N.Y.C. the law/s are completely different outside N.Y.C.
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He said he would go after any internet dealers that sold knives to his state the he decided where Illegal. I don’t have any money to fight.
I am disabled so I am selling off my knife inventory to make a little bit of money so I cane pay my bills and fix up some scooters that I traded some of my knifes for to help me get around. I don’t want to lose everything and I don’t want to go to jail over it too.
 
DRJames said:
Unfortunately, legal claim isn't always that relevant if they are intent on bleeding companies dry by forcing them to accrue enormous legal fees. It's a tactic large businesses use to shut down smaller competitors on an appallingly routine basis. Find a nitpicky was to sue and run the suit until the other company just runs out of money to defend themselves, and I think we can both agree that NYC has larger coffers. It's one of the major issues with our legal system.

I do agree that changing the stance of the legislature is much easier said than done, and I feel for you man, but if companies stand to lose more by getting tangled up in legal proceedings with the state than they do by halting sales to the state, at that point its just a business decision. The sad thing is, that's exactly what the folks running NYC want.

You could always come down to GA, where we lawless hooligans roam with their guns and knives on every street corner :friendly_wink:
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You could always come down to GA, where we lawless hooligans roam with their guns and knives on every street corner
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Funny.. but there's plenty of lawless hooligans roaming with their guns and knives right here in N.Y.C. :p
The worst really is the homeless and street beggars. (link to Phil Elmore's articles)
I'm referring specifically to the homeless with drug addiction and severe mental health issues roaming the streets and down in the subways due to an overloaded/overburdened city mental health/shelter system... these are who I have to be on guard against, fortunately I have a highly developed sense of situational awareness and in the 27 years I've been back in Manhattan a.k.a. N.Y.C. have never once had something bad happen... many close calls, but I follow the path of least resistance.

I don't pull a knife just because someone bumps into me on the street then tells me "F.U.M.F'er!!"
(which happens at least once or twice a week here)
But in a life or death scenario.... at night, dark secluded street or area, it's me or them... I would definitely use my Rob Walker Combative Edge™ SR11, but first I better find a dealer that will ship one to N.Y.C. !!! :D

I'd like to move back to New Orleans were I lived before moving back here.
 
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