Worst YT reviewer/knife channel ?

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plenty of people sling mud at nutn and neptune on a regular basis (rightfully so), but not too many people are defending their channels.

it's too hypocritical...

I did stand up for these guys when I called the thread out on the 2nd or third page by saying this thread sucked (and got a bunch of flack and a warning from a mod for it). And guess what? This thread still sucks. All it has done is piss every one off under some guise of objectivity and you feeling slighted because of some "hypocrisy" - those objectives have failed multiple times now. Trust me, I know a piece of garbage when I smell it. I know when it's time to take out the trash. The way I see it this thread is a huge black mark on the otherwise cool knife review and testing subforum.


To move on to the next extremely childish point - comparing bashing youtube channels to a review of a knife. :rolleyes:

First of all, it's worth mentioning that typically a knife review involves constructive criticism (if it's a good review at least). Very little of the criticism here has been constructive. It's one thing to disagree with someone and the content of their videos, but to create a thread about the "worst youtube reviewers" is not inviting constructive criticism. It's inviting bashing - which is exactly what happened for the first few pages.

But the real distinction lies in the fact that PEOPLE are not the same as INANIMATE OBJECTS.

At the end of the day we are talking about people here. For example - Someone doesn't like Jdavis's channel? Take a hike, don't watch the videos - because John IS that channel. Sure we can backpedal and say "oh, I'm just objectively critiquing his channel, I like John, just not his channel," but by making blanket statements about what are the worst channels or channels you don't like is ripping on that channel. In turn that is ultimately ripping on the person behind the channel. (Feel free to say once again how you like John but not his channel. Whatever man, we've heard it all before - it's not working. Just do us all a big favor and delete this thread.)

Ultimately you are ripping on people.

Now ripping on people in forums is nothing new (hence this thread still being in existence - this kind of stuff is unfortunately par for the course), but YouTube happens to be the kind of place where you can actually make real connections with people. Case in point, I'm going to a knife show tomorrow and meeting a friend from YouTube. We have exchanged emails, traded knives, talked about our mutual experiences and have chatted on Skype. So we take this seriously. The people you rip on in this thread matter. YouTube is a community and a brotherhood, and it's based on respect - something that is sorely lacking in this particular thread. Your continued pushing of some whack agenda shows an incredible amount of disrespect to all of us, and it's not appreciated.

I like John, and I like TuffThumbz (Geoff), and I like Smokeater (Robbie) and, I like everyone else. So to hear people rip on them offends me. If people rip on my friends, frankly I get extremely pissed off - not just on the computer, in real life too. Hence my somewhat heated initial post. "Sorry" if it came off as a little bit of a personal attack and a violation of the rules of this forum (I'm not sorry), but if someone is talking trash about my friends or family I'll take their head off - and I won't freaking apologize for it.

Blood is thicker than water. Loyalty is something that means a lot to me. I support the people that support me, and a slap on the face to them is the same as a slap one the face to me. Frankly if it means getting banned so be it.
 
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I did stand up for these guys when I called the thread out on the 2nd or third page by saying this thread sucked (and got a bunch of flack and a warning from a mod for it). And guess what? This thread still sucks. All it has done is piss every one off under some guise of objectivity and you feeling slighted because of some "hypocrisy" - those objectives have failed multiple times now. Trust me, I know a piece of garbage when I smell it. I know when it's time to take out the trash. The way I see it this thread is a huge black mark on the otherwise cool knife review and testing subforum.


To move on to the next extremely childish point - comparing bashing youtube channels to a review of a knife. :rolleyes:

First of all, it's worth mentioning that typically a knife review involves constructive criticism (if it's a good review at least). Very little of the criticism here has been constructive. It's one thing to disagree with someone and the content of their videos, but to create a thread about the "worst youtube reviewers" is not inviting constructive criticism. It's inviting bashing - which is exactly what happened for the first few pages.

But the real distinction lies in the fact that PEOPLE are not the same as INANIMATE OBJECTS.

At the end of the day we are talking about people here. For example - Someone doesn't like Jdavis's channel? Take a hike, don't watch the videos - because John IS that channel. Sure we can backpedal and say "oh, I'm just objectively critiquing his channel, I like John, just not his channel," but by making blanket statements about what are the worst channels or channels you don't like is ripping on that channel. In turn that is ultimately ripping on the person behind the channel. (Feel free to say once again how you like John but not his channel. Whatever man, we've heard it all before - it's not working. Just do us all a big favor and delete this thread.)

Ultimately you are ripping on people.

Now ripping on people in forums is nothing new (hence this thread still being in existence - this kind of stuff is unfortunately par for the course), but YouTube happens to be the kind of place where you can actually make real connections with people. Case in point, I'm going to a knife show tomorrow and meeting a friend from YouTube. We have exchanged emails, traded knives, talked about our mutual experiences and have chatted on Skype. So we take this seriously. The people you rip on in this thread matter. YouTube is a community and a brotherhood, and it's based on respect - something that is sorely lacking in this particular thread. Your continued pushing of some whack agenda shows an incredible amount of disrespect to all of us, and it's not appreciated.

I like John, and I like TuffThumbz (Geoff), and I like Smokeater (Robbie) and, I like everyone else. So to hear people rip on them offends me. If people rip on my friends, frankly I get extremely pissed off - not just on the computer, in real life too. Hence my somewhat heated initial post. "Sorry" if it came off as a little bit of a personal attack and a violation of the rules of this forum (I'm not sorry), but if someone is talking trash about my friends or family I'll take their head off - and I won't freaking apologize for it.

Blood is thicker than water. Loyalty is something that means a lot to me. I support the people that support me, and a slap on the face to them is the same as a slap one the face to me. Frankly if it means getting banned so be it.

You tell Him Dan!

This thread is in no way supporting the " knife community " i dont understand how ignorant someone could be to even start it.

Grow up dude..
 
Consider this my KO punch.

i will consider it but i'm still standing up and standing behind everything stated by me in this thread.

i didn't ask you to agree...

my advice is to just walk away from it.
 
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your exact words were, "i'm not going to answer for gav".

which was by far the most pointless post in this thread.

that's why i apologized for your confusion... because you obviously couldn't muster up anything useful..

Wasn't trying to be useful towards this lame thread of yours. Trying to help you out and point your discrepancies towards the person you made mention of while addressing me.

Leave me out of whatever claim/beef (which you clearly misunderstood Gavko's post) you have with someone else.

BTW, your thread is inflammatory, and that's exactly what you meant to do.
 
Thanks, and yeah I know lots of guys and some gals sub for knives then get disappointed when they see something not knife related thats understandable, if I had the time I woudl have a separate channel for just knives...

no big deal.

i still watch most of your content and enjoy it.

thanks for being mature about this jeff, i really appreciate that.
 
See whats sad is the OP doesnt realize that he is just pissing in the wind. He's back tracking on what he said knowing full well that this stupid thread was nothing but a malicious attempt to get back at some YouTuber that he obviously is jealous of. There is no other reason that an "individual" would try to bash others who he thinks is beneath him. Lets be honest the true intent of someone to criticize others is to express some sort of dominance over them. Apparently his intention what to get at others who he thinks is getting the recognition undeservingly. Why you might ask, well obviously its because of some sort of self consciousness or perhaps some sort of lack of acknowledgement from peers. Why would some one want to start a thread in an online forum to express some sort of disatisfaction with others in another online forum?

Does he not realize that the collective support of all the Youtubers he is openly bashing trumps him in his own forum. Ive read through every page and there is maybe a handful of people who are close to his narrow minded thinking? Even the smallest Youtube knife reviewer or knife enthusiast like myself has more supporters than this person in their own thread? What gets me is that the Op is probably thinking that he has achieved some sort of victory over the YouTube knife community just by posting a thread like this!!

Threads like this is why I dont like BF. It gives idiots like the OP a soap box to spread their hate and stupidity. Good going Four_shore for starting this thread. Not only did it help us realize that people like you are the problem with online forums but it also help unify the community that you sought to bring down. Keep back tracking on the stupid things you say and defend your ignorance because it will only help the YouTube community get bigger and better. It will help bring exposure to our small niche on the interwebs.
 
when i saw the title of this thread posted by you my first thought was oh great big attack on Jdavis...

in the end you watch what you like. the beauty of choice and opinion.

not much point in arguing about opinion.
 
i will consider it but i'm still standing up and standing behind everything stated by me in this thread.

i didn't ask you to agree...

my advice is to just walk away from it.


I don't care what you asked me for. You made a ton of enemies starting this thread. I have no respect for you.
 
Wow this thread is absolute garbage and is completely devoid of class. But seeing how it was started by infamous threadcrapper "four_shore" I'm really not surprised.

Dan, I'd love to see YOU try to do a video review. It's real easy to be an armchair commando and talk a bunch of trash, but I've yet to see your efforts materialize into anything besides hot air.

I understand there are a good deal of poor quality knife videos on youtube, and it's a running joke for people on knife forums to stereotype and berate people on youtube (trust me, it's a two way street, and you are a shining example of the sterotypical asshat forum member), but calling people out by name does nothing but breed negative energy and invite contempt. And of course it's all done behind faceless avatars in typical gestappo forum style. No one here would have the balls to really attach their names to any of this nonsense, let alone say it to anyone's face.

I'm surprised such a patently negative and utterly worthless thread would even be allowed on a discussion forum intended to promote the intelligent discussion of knives. Grow up.

Well said Sir
 
i will consider it but i'm still standing up and standing behind everything stated by me in this thread.

i didn't ask you to agree...

my advice is to just walk away from it.

Your intention of starting this thread was to get the same sort of thinking that you have about Youtube knife reviewers? You wanted others to share the same feeling you have for certain YouTubers. So "YES" you did ask for others who agree with you. You can stand up for whatever ever it is you think you stand for but the general concensus is that no one else stands behind you. You are alone amongst many. Just know that you bring nothing beneficial or positive to the community you think you are representing.
 
i'm going to stop feeding the dogs here.

just enjoy the thread...

or don't.

i'm strangely comfortable with it either way..
 
Neptune and Fabiocrowe. I actually really like about half of nutnfancy's videos and the other half I just don't watch.
 
i'm going to stop feeding the dogs here.

just enjoy the thread...

or don't.

i'm strangely comfortable with it either way..

LOL you want to stop "feeding the dogs" yet you start a thread asking others opinions. Can you look anymore weak in your feeble attempt to seem important? You are seriously the epitome of what could ever be wrong with an online community.
 
i'm going to stop feeding the dogs here.

just enjoy the thread...

or don't.

i'm strangely comfortable with it either way..

I'm sure it's comfortable in the way Hitler felt before he shot himself in the head. Hey, you have no one to blame but yourself. Take care.
 
LOL you want to stop "feeding the dogs" yet you start a thread asking others opinions. Can you look anymore weak in your feeble attempt to seem important? You are seriously the epitome of what could ever be wrong with an online community.

don't get the wrong idea. i'm not looking for an escape route here. after all, i started the thread and could just as soon close it.

i've become the sole topic of this discussion which was not what i desired.

i dont wish to keep fending off people that are off topic.

if you would like a debate or conversation, feel free to pm me and we can handle it there.
 
I'm sure it's comfortable in the way Hitler felt before he shot himself in the head. Hey, you have no one to blame but yourself. Take care.

Whoah... Hitler and suicide? Really?

I think you might be a little too emotional about this.
 
don't get the wrong idea. i'm not looking for an escape route here. after all, i started the thread and could just as soon close it.

i've become the sole topic of this discussion which was not what i desired.

i dont wish to keep fending off people that are off topic.

if you would like a debate or conversation, feel free to pm me and we can handle it there.

Seems to me like you are looking for a way out of the hole you dug yourself into. What exactly were you trying to achieve by starting a thread like this? What did you expect to happen when you call out people on one of the most popular websites in the world??? Did you just expect that everyone would be on your side and harp on the same disatisfaction you have? Really?!?

This seems like such a poorly thoughtout thread that was intended to do nothing but troll others in the same community you are in.

Im not going to discuss this privately because I think any discussion on this matter should be public just as you intended by starting this thread. You want to stand behind how you feel then man up and discuss it openly. Dont hide behind anonimity even more than you already have.
 
Im not going to discuss this privately because I think any discussion on this matter should be public just as you intended by starting this thread. You want to stand behind how you feel then man up and discuss it openly. Dont hide behind anonimity even more than you already have.

Exactly
 

have i not been discussing it openly?

and the only outcome thus far is that some people don't agree with this thread, to the point of being far more insulting than i could ever be.

quite obviously a touchy subject.

nonetheless, it is what you make it...
 
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