Would you (American knife collectors) still collect if you lived in the UK?

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  1. Sid Post

    Sid Post

    Oct 14, 1998
    I don't really use 'true' collectors. However, I will use expensive custom knives that are meant to be used, not displayed under a banker's light in a formal setting.
     
  2. Sid Post

    Sid Post

    Oct 14, 1998
    They (you) have had their fair share of Terrorism.

    When US law enforcement is facing illegal fully-automatic firearms with the 9mm handgun, I wonder why some of them can't have an AR-15 or similar style assault rifle. Of course, there are some that should not be allowed to have any firearm either, having met a few that made me wonder which Cracker Jack box their badge came from. For the record, I mean no disrespect to the vast majority of law enforcement who are there to do a job most of couldn't, wouldn't and, won't do to protect us from the bad people who mean us harm.
     
  3. Sid Post

    Sid Post

    Oct 14, 1998
    I can't speak for anyone else but, I carried Victorinox that was technically illegal but I never had a problem because I only used it in public for reasonable things. Like the screwdriver and pliers shown in a previous post, context and intent goes a long way with most law enforcement. Beligerant or intoxicated and being a 'jerk', you are going to get the full 'treatment'. Normal and polite, at worst a verbal scolding to put it 'away' and 'out of sight'.

    Would I carry an Opinel in the UK, probably if I didn't have my Victorinox on me. After all, how do you cut cheese and slice fruit with a disposable plastic knife?
     
  4. Sid Post

    Sid Post

    Oct 14, 1998
    If the 'state' wants to support me with free food, housing and, healthcare because I used a Victorinox on a park bench to slice cheese or fruit, go for it. Like India (when it was a British colony), stand up with non-violence or quit complaining. Sheeple get what they deserve!

    Some things are worth personal inconvenience.
     
  5. Thesian

    Thesian Gold Member Gold Member

    502
    Jun 11, 2008
    I’m going to say that I would still be a collector. I have lots of guns that I don’t carry or use regularly, so I suppose the knives would fill that role.

    I would carry the closest thing to a tactical flipper that I could without breaking the law. I think Spyderco makes a ukpk or something g like that that doesn’t lock. That would work for me.
     
  6. GatorFlash1

    GatorFlash1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2012
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  7. Robinson1

    Robinson1

    110
    Feb 15, 2018
    I've got a fair number of knives set aside that I find interesting along with different variations of knives that I really like.

    However at the end of the day I dont really see myself as a collector. I've got about 10 knives that I use and about 5 that are in a pile of daily rotation as the situation arises. My most carried is a Buck 112. Surely not a legal knife in the UK.

    I've always been more of a traditional knife fan and carried a stockman or sodbuster pattern on and off for many years. With those type knives still finding their way into my pocket.

    I also consider the Buck 110/112 and comparable Schrade and Old Timer style knives to be traditional knives. Or atleast classic knife patterns.

    Here lately I've really taken a liking to small lock back folders like the Buck 444, Buck 284 Bantam, and Schrade SP3. All of these not allowed in the UK I'm sure.

    I've never viewed a knife as a weapon. Never carried one in the mindset of a self defense tool. Of course this doesnt matter in the UK.

    I'm late to jump on the bandwagon and viewed then as childs toys for many years but Ive became a big fan of SAKs and carry a tinker a fair bit. But the blade is probably too long for the UK!?!

    I guess at the end of the day while my buying habits might change I'd still buy knives and I'd still carry a knife of some sort no matter where I was.
     
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  8. Glenn Goodlett

    Glenn Goodlett Gold Member Gold Member

    368
    Sep 6, 2016
    I imagine that whatever drew me to the UK (probably money) would make me stay on the good side of the law as well, so, I'd give up knives, at least whilst I was there.
     
  9. willard0341

    willard0341 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 18, 2013
    Maybe Americans are proud of their freedoms, and lately we are more vocal about said frreedoms
     
  10. Norcaldude

    Norcaldude Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2014
    Sure and there is a sub-forum provided by the owners of this place specifically for you and your like minded brethren to share your thoughts with each other. This sub-forum is not the place for it.
     
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  11. slyraven

    slyraven

    324
    Feb 19, 2019
    Since it is hypothetical, yea I'd still collect them if I was able, at least I could look at them and still have them if the laws ever changed or shtf
     
  12. Mrs_Esterhouse

    Mrs_Esterhouse

    57
    Apr 9, 2019
    No, the lack of freedom is not worth the lives saved.
     
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  13. Mrs_Esterhouse

    Mrs_Esterhouse

    57
    Apr 9, 2019
    I think you may misunderstand Americans. I think we're lamenting the freedoms our friends have lost more than we're celebrating the freedoms we have.
     
  14. Chronovore

    Chronovore Basic Member Basic Member

    319
    Aug 29, 2019
    That's assuming that any are saved in the first place. Is there are a dramatic difference in "knife violence" between places with all these hardcore laws and the places with none? What if the heavily restricted places are actually worse?

    The topic issue here is really about perspective. I've literally spent decades with a folding knife on my person. Much of that time has involved knives that would be banned under a number of governments or regimes around the world. I've never used one for either aggressive or defensive purposes. Considering the latter, folding knives aren't great weapons in the first place. Having lived in wonderfully safe places where firearms are largely unrestricted, some of these laws would be a major shock to me. At least for me, it might be more relevant as a cause not to move there should the opportunity ever arise.
     
  15. NeverBeenTimid

    NeverBeenTimid

    30
    Dec 17, 2019
    Not sure I agree with this. But then again I don't want to open a can of worms.
     
  16. afishhunter

    afishhunter

    Oct 21, 2014
    I'd probably continue to accumulate (I'm not a "collector"; all my knives are users.) slipjoints, if I had the funds.
     
  17. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    Nope it would be fine. You can carry up to 3" non locking practically anywhere and unrestricted. There are several places in the US with more restrictions than that. I'm flying to the UK soon for business and will probably be carrying a SAK Farmer.
     
  18. Knives&Lint

    Knives&Lint

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    May 10, 2013
    I'm not at all trying to come across as an internet tough guy, but I would like to think that I would not comply. I would continue to live my life, minding my own business, harming nobody, and keep doing my best to be the best person I can be (imperfectly no doubt). Then, let those who would judge me do so by my actions rather than the inanimate objects that I may make the personal choice of deeming necessary to carry. I believe it is our duty as citizens to refuse to follow unjust laws restricting freedom. And yes, I do absolutely believe that freedom is more important than safety. Maybe this is foolhearted, maybe it is arrogant, perhaps it is merely idealistic theory whereas in practice I would see things differently; but it is what I believe in.
     
  19. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    Sure, I would keep on accumulating. Just not the same knives as of now.
     
  20. Stelth

    Stelth

    Jul 15, 2007
    If I were suddenly teleported to the UK I'd instantly work on moving back to Florida.
     
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