Wrong Doers Among Us....

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I just read a few pages.

Honestly, really, for real, please, sincerely, all of you that think that secondary market Busse prices are too high......go buy a cheaper knife and leave all of us alone. Please.

Oh, and move to a communist country. You will feel much more at home.
 
it dotn pay. Id pay an extra 50 bucks for the quality afforded me by infi, if its a model i like and cant get anywhere else 50 smackers is a paultry fee.
 
GlassJax said:
I still maintain for you to take a second look at a majority of the posts in this thread. Posts 117 and 126 have nothing to do with Jerry or Skunk's operations. They are solely about people here on BF, selling in the secondary market. And even then, it does not apply to most.

No need to [rant]. I'm listening.
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Which part of "Long before you waded in." didn't you understand, Dr. Crane? (Obscure _Frasier_ reference)

I have read every response to the initial post and I'm still trying to figure out just to what you think Spark's rules apply. Or why they were even brought up in the first place. As far as I can tell, he tells others not to poach off of his Exchange and then immediately resell them for a profit. This happens elsewhere (S&W Forum has seen a bunch of this lately) and it is frowned upon too, but that is besides the point.

You (collectively) seem to be accusing others of buying from outside and then listing them on the Exchange. Where does that run afoul of Spark's rules? He never says "don't profit", he just asks that you not be a "flipper". I have yet to see any sort of rapid turnaround with Busses in the sales area. Trades on the other hand seem to fly around with abandon. I recently traded a Busse MrS for a Strider MT-L. I then was showing it to another addict, who recognized it as something he had traded off earlier. We laughed about eliminating the middle-man (Sorry, Dan). Would that bother any of the people listening to this? Why should the exhange of cash vice steel change the feelings?

Can anyone offer an example of "flipping" (buying from the Exchange and then immediately relisting at a higher price) of a Busse from the off the Exchange? I am genuinely curious. My gut tells me no.
 
GlassJax said:
Your just proving my point that you have actually read very little of this thread. I said almost the same exact thing that experiance and personnal knowledge are required and have no substitutes. It's back on the second or thrid page. Check it out and you'll see how much we actually agree on these things.
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Glassjack why don't you go :jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit: yourself :confused:
 
flatlander said:
IT'S ONLY A KNIFE!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob MillsI BLAME PORKERSON
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Obviously you have never held a Busse Combat Knife to make a foolish remark like that! I think you owe all of us an apology :mad:

(This thread is so long I lose my place everytime I speak the truth)
 
GlassJax said:
madfast with the most to-the-point and clearly understandable post of the tread thus far...

Everyone should reread it a couple times. He's simple and he's right.
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Would you PLEASE quit telling all of us to re read the thread ? I'm trying to drink here :grumpy:

AND I just lost my place again! FRUITCAKE!!
 
holy scat! what's going on here, somebody must be giving away free infi..... wheres the GO GO GO button? :D

just for the record, the company store is licensed and basically owned by jerry busse, vicki and i just run it for him. all pricing is set by the man himself.

we adhere strictly to jerry's pricing and drinking policies.

please carry on :thumbup:
 
Eric Isaacson said:
You know what scares off new people interested in Busse Knives, not high prices, but threads like this where it comes across that all we do is complain and whine. I don't think anyone came here to complain or whine, but that is what the perception is from anyone outside looking in.
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Amen.

On top of that I am seriously considering not selling another blade to anyone again. Why stick my neck out and risk being labeled a profiteer?

I have already made the deciision to stop posting pictures of most if not all of what I get in from now on, why not seriouly go into black hole mode?

There is too darned much whining around here from time to time. The bottome line is

a) The buyers ultimately dictate the prices of the secondary market. If the price is too high, don't buy it.

b) We all have equal odds when it comes to the extravaganza offerings. The fastest connection or mouse doesn't always make for a score. You have to take into account varying speeds and info transfers involved on the net. Heck, I know there are guys who use dial up who beat DSL or cable modem guys to the trough in these things. It is a free for all with the outcome much dependant on chance.

c) If you know a guy is buying for resale at a huge mark up on a quick turn around, then don't buy from him. If you see someone viewing the guys auction, send them a PM about it or something. Don't start a big arguement here.
 
Holy OINKIN' Yowza!!!! I just read most of this thread. . .not all, but most. . .


It seems to me that the general consensus of this thread is that we don't charge enough for our knives. . . .:eek: . . . . Hmmmmm. . . . Where's my calculator??? :confused: ;)

In the past month I've been accused of being everything from a marketing genius to a drunken moron who would've flunked out of basic business courses. . . .I kinda lean toward the drunken moron description myself, but that's more of a personal choice on my part! :thumbup:

I think that these discussions need to focus on a valuable lesson that I learned at the 1984 BLADE Show. . . .It was my first BLADE Show and I was set up right next to the Bob Loveless table. . . .I felt doomed being next to the knifemaking legend at the time, and pretty much figured that my table would serve as a place for folks to set their bags down while they shopped the Loveless table. . . . .There were, however, a few quiet moments at the Loveless table throughout the show when there were no customers around and Bob and I had the opportunity to talk about knives. . . :thumbup:

Being my first big knife show, and 1984 being LONG before the internet had been invented by Al Gore, I really had no idea on how to price my knives. . . I asked Bob for his opinion on the price of $167.00 that I had on my Urgent Fury model at the time, and he said, "I can tell you exactly how much that knife is worth!" I sat their in jaw-slacked awe as the man himself was about to bestow his years of knowledge upon me. He looked the knife over very carefully and said, "This knife, like every other knife, is worth EXACTLY. . . . . what someone is willing to pay you for it!". . . .

Now, I am fully aware that most of our customers are willing to pay much more for our knives than we charge and that we could, and maybe should, charge about 20-30% more than we do. Overall, it would certainly have a big, positive impact on our profit line. . . . So, why don't we charge all of, " . . what someone is willing to pay for it" ???? . . . . I suppose it goes back to me being a drunken moron, or perhaps it's just our way of ensuring that our customer's purchase of a Busse Combat blade is a pretty safe investment. . . I will say that I have not noted any other knife line out there that you can consistently purchase, beat the crap out of for a couple of years, and then re-sell at your cost or often at a profit. There are some isolated instances of this with other makes but none that I have seen with the continued consistency of the Busse Combat line. Having the lifetime guarantee transfer to the new owner of a used Busse Combat knife and leaving some "on the table" for the customer from the beginning in order to make resale easy has always been our way of giving a little something back to our customers for their much appreciated patronage and loyalty.

So, when someone is willing to pay a higher price for a discontinued Busse Combat Knife in order to get what they want when they want it. . .They aren't really over-paying for the knife. . . . They're just paying what it's worth. . . .

And when they finally have their INFI in hand, their tails will curl a little more and their tusks will grow a little longer. . . and they will no longer be counted among those who have simply read the battle cry of the INFI HOGs. . . but rather, they will have become one of the HOGs who have lived it!!!!. . .

NO REGRETS!!!!

Nuke on my wayward HOGs!!! . . .:thumbup:

Jerry. . . :D
 
Jerry if you are a drunken moron, then I want to be one too!

Glad you are all right by the way, you never called me back the other day. I was getting worried about you.
 
Sus scrofa said:
Obviously you have never held a Busse Combat Knife to make a foolish remark like that! I think you owe all of us an apology :mad:

(This thread is so long I lose my place everytime I speak the truth)
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That is the funniest line yet!!

Sus scrofa, you are waaaaayy off on that one brother....

I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything at the time, woulda spewed out of my nose for sure....

Hehe, Flatlander never handling a Busse...OMG....
 
You know what scares off new people interested in Busse Knives, not high prices, but threads like this where it comes across that all we do is complain and whine. I don't think anyone came here to complain or whine, but that is what the perception is from anyone outside looking in.
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There is too darned much whining around here from time to time
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I don't think I agree with you, Eric and Progunner. The way I read this, I think you're actually being a little too sensitive, IMHO. (:D )

There are, what, 10 pages of posts on this thread? A little bit of knife throwing, but most guys seem to be taking it in stride. A few guys are trying to make a point (whining? - maybe- but "whining" isn't winning) that most of us disagree with to varying degrees or just believe is "part of the territory."

Doesn't seem completely out of line to have some occasional minority disagreements among the 50 or 100 guys (more?) who contribute to this forum.

You and Eric are helpful moderate and experienced voices anyhow and I don't see how anybody could accuse either of you of "price gouging" anyhow.
 
smithsnoh said:
Doesn't seem completely out of line to have some occasional minority disagreements among the 50 or 100 guys (more?) who contribute to this forum.

You and Eric are helpful moderate and experienced voices anyhow and I don't see how anybody could accuse either of you of "price gouging" anyhow.
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I would have to agree that we are much more civil to one another than some places I have been in the net, that is for sure. As for Eric and I being moderate and experienced voices, I'll lay claim to moderate and since he has more experience than I. :D
 
I have seen many of these kinds of threads on pretty much every forum that deals with a hign end product with a limited supply.

To me it all comes down to the fact that these things are pretty much all hobby items and if you don't like the price then you don't need to make the purchase. No one owes you a Busse and you don't need a Busse. If you did the Jerry would be taking food stamps.
 
Honestly, the money I have saved and will save on knives, because my Busse & Rat knives are so durable, more than make up for any "increase" I have paid on the secondary market. Just keep your eyes on the Busse site and company store for non-gouge prices. "Something wicked this way comes"!
 
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