Wrong Doers Among Us....

[GlassJax]

This message was edited by the Capitalizm Justice League, forever defending the American way of supply and demand against communism, trolls and other villians!

Some hide behind the "Capitalizm Justice League" and call others what they truely are.

 

[brianNH]

The thing that is pissing a lot of people off is the fact that a small number of individuals are buying all the knives up in bulk for no other reason than to resell them at a profit a short time later when there is no more primary supply. That doesn't benefit the people that actually want the knives to use/collect nor does it benefit Busse.

Now Rich. Dont confuse people with the facts, and by the way, how do we know you're not a troll with one of them "trickster" or prankster accounts?

 

[aaronjayl]

This ones simple. A knife that goes into some of these safes aka "great black holes" will never be available for purchase again regardless of the profit margin.

I'm realizing that more and more as far as you HOGS are concerned...LOL Oh well, guess I'll just have to try and be quicker in the future or slip some sedatives into your JW Blue

I feel this whole thing is pretty straight forward. If you want to buy something, and can live the price, then buy it. If not then move on. 2 examples for you:

I posted in a thread that I would love to get an OD SK to go with my OD HR. A member pm'd me with an offer of $150 I think it was. I decided that for me it wasn't worth paying the extra cash to get OD when I could buy a black one for $97 at the company store. So I bought a black one.

Secondly, I wanted a BIBB. I missed out on getting one or two in the exchange for around $330. Saw one listed on E@$# for $375. Decided I wasn't about to miss out again so I bought it. Now the person who listed it had only paid $330 for it originally, but I don't care. I wanted it and you know what, I would have paid more if I had to.

So now here I sit working overtime on a Sunday to pay for my blades. Do I regret it now? Not a chance

 

[Uncle Tom]

Another Gouger checking in :thumbup:

You deserve a crude icon for that, but, some here are easily offended. I have not sold any Busse blade to anyone, don't plan to, either. I'm not a "gouger.":yawn:

 

[brianNH]

You deserve a crude icon for that, but, some here are easily offended. I have not sold any Busse blade to anyone, don't plan to, either. I'm not a "gouger.":yawn:

I apologize then as I took your earlier statement as a pro gouging remark.

There is a dynamic here, obviously strange to you because you completely missed it. It's called "thinking for yourself and acting in your own best interest

 

[Yager]

btw glassjaw, my for sale post was IN JEST, i hide behind nothing but my belt buckle( it will sheild me from the flames!)
If you really want the prices you could search for them, or you could contact me for them. and did you notice how fast they sold? i probably could have got way more, or waited until they were really rare, but i wanted to prove a point. that and I like to keep these posts a goin'!
all this typing is making me thirsty, I think i'll drive to the local tavern to have a $.68 beer for $2.00, while burning my gas at $3.09 a gallon! Now that's GOUGING!

 

[GlassJax]

You deserve a crude icon for that, but, some here are easily offended.

Thank you Tom. It's not so much as I'm easily offeneded, as I have a wife and small children. I would rather not feel uncomfortable as my five year old looks over my shoulder to see what I'm doing.

And how you responed to Brian was truely "classy" in my opinion, and solicited an appoligy from Brian. Do you think the icon would have recieved the same response?

 

[GlassJax]

btw glassjaw

Name calling is very mature.

I did send you an off-line e-mail. Any chance you'll answer honest questions there with honest answers?

 

[Uncle Tom]

Thank you Tom. It's not so much as I'm easily offeneded, as I have a wife and small children. I would rather not feel uncomfortable as my five year old looks over my shoulder to see what I'm doing.

And how you responed to Brian was truely "classy" in my opinion, and solicited an appoligy from Brian. Do you think the icon would have recieved the same response?

Thank you, GlassJax. Actually I would not use that icon- might think it, but won't use it. I'm not "pro-gouge" I just don't see this as gouging. Greed yes, but one can always say no to out of line for sale prices. Just my less than hmble opinion, as folkes tell me I always think I am right.

Tom

 

[babymax]

i believe there are many "scalper"s somewhere. and I hate that.

and I believe Jerry should do something. just like what did government doing to those scalpers. right?

 

[rbmcmjr]

None of this discussion is about Skunk's Store or about Jerry's. Have you aleast skimmed over some of the other pages of this huge thread?

Long before you waded in. I didn't feel any need to comment until someone else (the original poster, who may or may not be a troll) attempted to apply them to this situation: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3908419&postcount=117

And then YOU agreed with him: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3908521&postcount=126

So yes, I did read it and I feel that you are inappropriately attempting to apply regulations from one venue in another. Dealer does not equal Opportunist/Entrepreneur.

Your saying that satire can not be used as a trolling mechanism?

<rant> No, damn it! "You're" </rant>

From where I sit, there was no trolling involved. He was very properly mocking the infantile whines about fairness and showing them up for what they are: The complaints of petulant children who are upset about not getting "their way".

The system is the way it is. Get over it, or create your own. Just don't expect the rest of us to necessarily agree with it.

 

[thatmguy]

How is it that this has turned into a bunch of direct personal attacked from the original post??

Amazing.

I just don't get it sometimes.

Don't know that I agree with the original thought of selling at the same price at which one obtained something, but there are those who do buy to sell at an immediate profit, those who buy to sell at a later profit, and those who buy to keep, selling only if necessary.

Those who attempt to sell at an imemdiate profit can only do so if there is a buyer market. If someone is willing to pay, then the immediate profit takers can continue to do so.

If the knife model(s) aree no longer available on the primary market (from Busse, the Company Store, or at shows), then the secondary market dynamics take over, where sellers ask prices, and buyers let them know by virtue of buying or not whether their prices are what the market should be. This is just the nature of things.

Let's keep the personnal attacks out of it. If you have a problem with a specific individual, take it to the GB&U.

(and yes, I agree the "jerk-it" should be banned from this forum. Very immature...)

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

Wow! I guess I "could" sell my BM-E at cost so I could afford a lanyard and strop but...

Seriously though... Figure out what you can afford and stay within that limit.

Also, as "The Bully" said, there is always plenty of time to buy new models from the main site and then on the company store. You only really have to fear price gouging if you want an older model. But even then you can score big if you are patient, keep your eyes open, and make friends.

 

[Dunner]

Glass, I read the entire thread and it has been civil and informative. The only thing I might have gotten mixed up as to whether previous content is from you or INFI Man. If you hadn't taken my post entirely personally, you could have taken from it my view of the economics of this whole thing (and I did study economics so just because I don't throw "elasticity" around doesn't mean anything). Do your homework and you will get what you want at a fair price. I even offered suggestions.

I stand by what I said based on your post previous to mine as you were suggesting that prices should be more homogenized or whatever. In many cases it is the price that will drive a rare item out of someone's collection or nobody would ever have the opportunity to buy it. Who is served by that?

All that said I totally disagree with speculation and flipping of knives in a tight market

We like the jerk-it icon around here. Some too much but it stays until BF says otherwise. "F" is fine too. Thanks for your feedback.

 

[westllen]

In the words of General Anthony McAuliff .......NUTS !

 

[Dunner]

Glass, if you spent more time here you would realize your attempts at being referee is are little off and you might enjoy the conversation more if you take a step off the soap box. For one you come across as a little bit elitist bit the funny part is a few posts back you quoted someone's post blaming Skunk for all the problems with supply as a troll. You have to understand that EVERYTHING is the fault of Garth, Eric Issacson ("Porkerson"...don't search it or the server will melt) or Idahoskunk. Ok, and less often it is another distinguished hog, but it is in jest around here.

We enjoy conversation here and don't mind controversy. We can be terse at times for sure.

 

[Eric Isaacson]

How is it that this has turned into a bunch of direct personal attacked from the original post??

Yes, I agree. I would like to file a formal complaint about so many guys blaming me (Porkerson) when I actually caused very few problems in this thread.

Those guys are just......mean.....bunch of meanies.

If someone doesn't make them be nice I'm gonna hold my breath until I turn blue.

 

[Dunner]

My last post might have been an example of "terse". What I am saying is join this forums overall conversation. I have come across some great knives by hanging around here but I have laughed A LOT! You will see a lot of new people being helped by people who have been here a while and this would be a lot more fun for you is what I am trying to say...sort of.

 

[papathud]

Guys,

Chill,

I personally do my part to lower the new price of Knives bought from the Company store by giving them away.

Come on, $587.00 for an overall 29 1/2"length Busse sword made from INFI?

I got four, gave away two and will be getting five more as soon as I get him to answer his phone again.

Why these do not sell out as soon as they get to the Company Store is a Mystery to me, a great deal for a great Little sword.

The Skeleton Keys are also a pretty cool deal at less than $100.00.

Set six of them on an AK and just wonder at how come the swords are available at such a low price.

After getting users and Gifts, I plan to put at least one or two in the safe for "Speculation"

I "Spect" they will beat inflation.

I do not like many of the knives coming outof Wauseon, I do not buy those.
I do not like some of the knives sold at the Company Store, I do not buy those.

I do not sell Busse knives often at all.

I seem to buy more than a few though.

Another post with alot of "I"s in it.

Love to edit cause I proof read better than I type(got another "I" or two in the edit)

 

[randucci]

i believe there are many "scalper"s somewhere. and I hate that.

and I believe Jerry should do something. just like what did government doing to those scalpers. right?

You're funny, like anyone, including Jerry, is going to tell an individual what they can resell their knife for! Once you buy it, it is yours to do what you please with.