You have expensive folders, i know but...

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My Opinel Number 8 in carbon steel was $11 if I remember correctly, and that knife makes me smile every time I use it. It does not get used often, but I just sharpened it to 15 DPS on the Edge Pro and got it all polished up and it cuts like a laser through butter.
 
My daily cheap knife carry is either sypderco military or Benchmade knife I found in a marsh on a hike.

As for clones, every knife is a clone of the previous sharp metal object with a cutting edge. Who cares, it still cuts.
 
My daily cheap knife carry is either sypderco military or Benchmade knife I found in a marsh on a hike.

As for clones, every knife is a clone of the previous sharp metal object with a cutting edge. Who cares, it still cuts.
I don't think "clone" means what you think it means...
 
I don't think "clone" means what you think it means...

You “cloned” the function of the cutting aspect of sharp metal objects. A knife cuts, that’s all we have to worry about. Any morality in buying a supposed copied/cloned knife is entirely subjective and meaningless in the grand scheme of life, especially considering that sharp metal objects has been around since metal was realized into a bladed tool shape and even before then with sharp rocks. We have been copying the same functions for thousands of years and we are bound to copy/clone some one else work in the process.

Now can we go back to appreciating cheap sharp metal objects?
 
Already closed the thread which actually was about "Clones".
This one isn't supposed to be.
This thread is supposed to be about inexpensive knives which are carried instead of the expensive ones that some of us collect.
Please drop the clone war and return to the actual topic.
 
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You are an arbitrary idiot. Thanks for nothing. Idiot......

You closed a thread that was on subject but left this open. Moron.

Ban me. I don't care. I don't want to be here anymore.
 
My wife's edc, she doesn't feel the need to upgrade from her 9.99 Kershaw hotwire (Or her casio). All she does with it really is open packaging on the go, as she uses a box cutter at work and one of the more suited knives we have when she's home. It's held up for a year and has only touched it up on the Sharpmaker once (happy that she knows how to do that.) No blade play and the action is still snappy after a year of (albeit) infrequent use. I often hint at replacing it with something better, but she really seems to like this knife. To each their own.

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Awesome pikal La Griffe! Is it from Bantang?
 
You make a valid point. I just Googled S-ebenza Clo-ne (take out the '-') and the first hit is Liarexpress, the second hit is a Reddit group and the third hit is BF. We need to be mindful of the fertile ground a place like this is for mindless search engine crawlers.

At the same time we can't run from an opportunity to educate and exhort folks who end up here seeking to learn about clones. Although we may differ in our definition of what's makes a clone, a counterfeit, a knock-off or an "inspired by" knife, we can all agree that theft is wrong. I think we should also agree that theft of creativity or even failing to reward innovation is bad for any industry.

I've read some passionate arguments defending the benefit of clones but at best they're selectively applied and highly situational. Our stance as enthusiasts should be very clear.

Although it sucks to think we might inadvertently share knowledge about these clone products, at least we can devote ourselves to sharing that knowledge in a kind, firm and unified way.

So, to sum it up, if you don't agree with me, you're bad for the knife industry. Get on board, wouldja? ;)

If someone wants to buy a clone we cannot stop them. They will search for it and find it somewhere on the web. I think it is good if their search brings up a thread here explaining the problemsnwith clones. That is literally the only way we have to dissuade someone.

Also to the uninformed a knife is a knife. They don't understand one steel can be better than another or anything about heat treat. To them there are 3 kinds of steel, not-stainless, stainless and the best one, surgical steel. Hopefully they will click on a thread here about this topic and learn why the Benchmade is better than the Ganzo.

There are so many good cheap knives like those Kershaw Injections. I think it is awesome Kershaw gets Rexford to design knives like that. There really is no good reason to get a cheap clone with all the cheap excellent knives. Kershaw Emersons have brought me alot of joy.
 
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This will be the first time since 1994 that I will have been banned from anywhere on the Internet. Actually it will be the first time in my whole life. It will be a less of an impact on me than anything else that has happened in my life. This is a shit forum and with shit moderators. I hope you people here realize that all you are doing is filling the pockets of the owners with your valuable time. Good luck to all of you, except for the idiots who think they have power over people just because they "moderate" a forum on knives.
 
No impact. Just want to bitch This place deserves some disrespect. I have contributed and the owners have made money on my back. They need to be held responsible for how things go here. They profit from the moderators being arbitrary morons.
 
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