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ThePeacent said:
I would also recommend these Ganzo and Enlan, politics and ethics not considered
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Ethics should be considered and new people should know exactly how harmful to the community what you are recommending is. Ganzo is a company based on theft. They steal designs from a number of companies. They also stole the Axis lock technology that Benchmade uses under license from Mchenry & Williams. The Persian bladed knife you have pictured is a knock-off of the Benchmade 860 Bedlam and it uses the stolen lock design of the patented axis lock.

PSA time new folks, this forum doesn't support such practices.
 
My wife's edc, she doesn't feel the need to upgrade from her 9.99 Kershaw hotwire (Or her casio). All she does with it really is open packaging on the go, as she uses a box cutter at work and one of the more suited knives we have when she's home. It's held up for a year and has only touched it up on the Sharpmaker once (happy that she knows how to do that.) No blade play and the action is still snappy after a year of (albeit) infrequent use. I often hint at replacing it with something better, but she really seems to like this knife. To each their own.

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Pomsbz said:
Yawn. You've got to love the self appointed lynch mob waving the forum flag as if it belongs to them.
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Would you but hot electronics and think you got a great deal on it and recommend others do the same?

I don't buy stolen things or recommend it to others. I work hard to pay for the things I have and would not appreciate them being stolen and sold for pennies on the dollar of what they cost me... just sayin'.;)
 
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Tangram (Kizer) Sante Fe
I paid $25 USD for this.
Japanese Acuto steel with a nice even grind; sharp out of the box.
Real G10 with just the right amount of grip.
Skeletonized liners.
Sturdy liner lock with good access.
Functional thumbstuds.
Smooth, hydraulic action on PB washers.
Excellent fit and finish.
Good ergos and sculpted handle edges.
Warranteed by the people who bring you Kizer knives.
More models in the pipeline to release over the next few months.
!!!All original design!!!

Why would anyone ever need to buy a knife from cloners or those who take liberty with actual and intellectual property?

Knives like this have rendered cloners and copiers obsolete. Cloners need your support now more than ever, knife enthusiasts. Don't give it!
 
Victorinox Huntsman
Esee Izula II
Schatt Morgan 44 D2 folding hunter (I got a buffalo hide slip to match the buffalo horn handles)
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mantzao said:
Guys, i didn'y mean to rough any feathers.
Despite being on a Sanrenmu 710 kick lately i guess is probably good to mention i've owned 11 Crk folders before.
Currently own a 25 and drooling over a small natural micarta inkosi :)
I believe Chris has made quite a few bucks on my account, don't you think?
Still, i don't consider the 710 a knockoff. Similarities in design yes but not a copy.
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You don't consider it a knockoff because it isn't. It's clear that the Sebenza was the inspiration for the design of the 710, but they changed enough for it to not be a copy, just a little too closely inspired. They did exactly what people here have said would be okay, if they take a design, change multiple aspects, then use that, but when it is done they are demonized for copying because boo evil Chinese manufacturers. We aren't talking an actual clone or copy here, we are talking what people call an homage, but when American manufacturers do it they regularly get a pass (even when the inspiration is not credited and the design is not authorized). No matter how you look at it, a similar looking $10 knife is not in any way hurting CRK.
 
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You don't consider it a knockoff because it isn't. It's clear that the Sebenza was the inspiration for the design of the 710, but they changed enough for it to not be a copy, just a little too closely inspired. They did exactly what people here have said would be okay, if they take a design, change multiple aspects, then use that, but when it is done they are demonized for copying because boo evil Chinese manufacturers. We aren't talking an actual clone or copy here, we are talking what people call an homage, but when American manufacturers do it they regularly get a pass (even when the inspiration is not credited and the design is not authorized). No matter how you look at it, a similar looking $10 knife is not in any way hurting CRK.
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This site is a Chinese knife love fest to a very uncomfortable level, the reason the 710 isn't liked is not because its Chinese.

Like @Charlie Mike says CNC machine
don't know where they work...or something to that effect
 
dkb45 said:
You don't consider it a knockoff because it isn't. It's clear that the Sebenza was the inspiration for the design of the 710, but they changed enough for it to not be a copy, just a little too closely inspired. They did exactly what people here have said would be okay, if they take a design, change multiple aspects, then use that, but when it is done they are demonized for copying because boo evil Chinese manufacturers. We aren't talking an actual clone or copy here, we are talking what people call an homage, but when American manufacturers do it they regularly get a pass (even when the inspiration is not credited and the design is not authorized). No matter how you look at it, a similar looking $10 knife is not in any way hurting CRK.
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You missed this post obviously.

craytab said:
Pay special attention to what the mod said here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/the-ganzo-g8012-fixed-blade-review.1516124/page-9#post-17421549
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Perhaps go back to defending quArtermaster. That is actually better.
 
And I thought the Dive Watch community was sensitive people! How that is a clone in away beats me, because they surely didn't pack enough screws in one location for that knife.

Besides my SAKS this CODE 4 is just fantastic and if they ever discontinue it I will for sure by several.
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Pomsbz said:
He wrote: "To put it pretty bluntly, coming here to review knives and support the IP theft and direct traffic to a site promoting them is a NO GO ZONE."

All the guy here did was post an image of a knife which itself is not actually a clone or counterfeit. Cue lynch mob. I stand by what I said.
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You seem to have selective reading. The rest of that quote makes it pretty clear that promoting these clones is not acceptable here. But hey, you are allowed to think what you want even if it is wrong. Just be prepared to have that fact pointed out to you ;)

And if by sticking with what you said you mean when you insulted other members, well that is just great too. Very telling:thumbsup:
 
Pomsbz said:
Yawn. You've got to love the self appointed lynch mob waving the forum flag as if it belongs to them.
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I understand when someone new to this hobby gets excited about a "great knife" that they got "so cheap" and they want to show it off to everyone. They are just ill informed. I come across that a lot when people find out I like to collect/carry knives and I go easy on them when they show me their crappy clones. I try to tell them nicely why I don't have any of those.

But BFC is a place where that type of ill informed enthusiast comes to learn.(And they will learn quickly here)! But if they seem to be trolling, or purposefully promoting clones etc...well then, I'll find a tree and you tie the knot!:mad:;)
 
craytab said:
You seem to have selective reading. The rest of that quote makes it pretty clear that promoting these clones is not acceptable here. But hey, you are allowed to think what you want even if it is wrong. Just be prepared to have that fact pointed out to you ;)

And if by sticking with what you said you mean when you insulted other members, well that is just great too. Very telling:thumbsup:
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Posting a picture is promoting? I'd love to hear the moderators opinion on that rather than the lynch mob. If posting an image of any Ganzo is against the forum rules this should be stated officially. The guy started a thread about liking cheap folders but because the lynch mob don't agree with his choice of picture accompanying the post, a knife inspired by but in no way a copy of a popular knife, he's getting creamed.
 
Pomsbz said:
Posting a picture is promoting? I'd love to hear the moderators opinion on that rather than the lynch mob. If posting an image of any Ganzo is against the forum rules this should be stated officially. The guy started a thread about liking cheap folders but because the lynch mob don't agree with his choice of picture accompanying the post, a knife inspired by but in no way a copy of a popular knife, he's getting creamed.
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It's absolutely a copy. What are the substantiative differences other than materials and cost? Same handle shape, same blade shape, etc, etc. We're knife enthusiasts here and if I don't see any significant design differences at a glance, it's absolutely a clone.

And if you start a thread about your favorite inexpensive knife and post pictures of it, how can it possibly be interpreted in any way BUT promoting it?

Also, lynch mob? Are you serious? 'Oh, no, people on the internet said my knife was ethically questionable! That's just like being murdered by a mob!' Get the hell out of here with that BS.
 
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