Zero Tolerance 0562CF vs. Spyderco Southard

Zero Tolerance 0562CF or Spyderco Southard?

  • Zero Tolerance 0562CF

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Spyderco Southard

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Total voters
    5
johnsonmicro said:
So, I guess I'm the only guy here who thinks spending $240 on a pocket knife is ridiculous?
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Well, at least the other people who think this is ridiculous did not post in a vs. thread with a couple of $200 plus knives pitted against each other. Nice 3rd post BTW.

On topic, I took the ZT. The reasons from ramzar and chester22 are spot on. Plus, I dig the hinderer designed ZTs.
 
I like the Southard except for the tan G10 (I don't like that colour on knives) and the awful clip - if they changed the clip to deep carry and put CF on it (not peel ply or 1x1 either, twill please), it's a winner for me. if I had to pick between the 2, I'd go for the 0562. Seems to have a wider blade which I like (especially since I use my knives to cut food a lot :))
 
Going by the specs and over all value it really is a no brainer for me....ZT 0562CF. :thumbup: It's also made in USA which I prefer vs Taiwan.
 
For me, as a Spyderco fan, the ZT wins this one. I carry my primary knife lefty tip-up, and can't do that with a Southard.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Did you really join a knife forum to tell a bunch of knife aficionados that they spend too much money on knives? Really?
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No, I joined to see if I could learn something. I have learned modern people use knives to split and chop wood but seem to ignore the fact a hatchet is much better for the job. Reviews here don't seem to tell me how knives perform but focus on what metal is used and what composite the handle is made of, how the blade is ground and how they split wood, and some of these guys have two or three hundred pocket knives which tells me they are actually hoarders and need counseling. I thought people still used knives to gut deer and clean fish or maybe even whittle but it's all about splitting wood. I wondered how these wide and thick blades work when the tool is used as a knife, you know dressing game, skinning game, chopping vegetables and camp chores but all I learned is you can split wood and make notches with it.

I also thought value had something to do with a knife review but no, not here. Again, a fifteen dollar hatchet will split and notch a hell of a lot more wood than either of these knives and part of survival is knowing the right tool for the job. I'm old and have been in the woods all my life and live on a farm. I guess I use knives differently than you 21st century guys, and I don't have a lot of money to waste.

Sorry, I wasted your time and mine.
 
johnsonmicro said:
No, I joined to see if I could learn something. I have learned modern people use knives to split and chop wood but seem to ignore the fact a hatchet is much better for the job. Reviews here don't seem to tell me how knives perform but focus on what metal is used and what composite the handle is made of, how the blade is ground and how they split wood, and some of these guys have two or three hundred pocket knives which tells me they are actually hoarders and need counseling. I thought people still used knives to gut deer and clean fish or maybe even whittle but it's all about splitting wood. I wondered how these wide and thick blades work when the tool is used as a knife, you know dressing game, skinning game, chopping vegetables and camp chores but all I learned is you can split wood and make notches with it.

I also thought value had something to do with a knife review but no, not here. Again, a fifteen dollar hatchet will split and notch a hell of a lot more wood than either of these knives and part of survival is knowing the right tool for the job. I'm old and have been in the woods all my life and live on a farm. I guess I use knives differently than you 21st century guys, and I don't have a lot of money to waste.

Sorry, I wasted your time and mine.
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See, you're in the wrong thread but this is not a conversation that's unwelcome here. Head over to Wilderness & Survival Skills or some of the other subforums and chat away! Honestly, it sounds like you've got experience to contribute, and I think that's valuable, but you won't get a warm reception by crashing threads to tell others how to spend their money. Welcome aboard, look around and you'll almost certainly find some like minded folks.
 
I like the southard a bit more. I like slicer blades a little more on my folders. Great steel. Easy to carry. Got a awesome custom scale on its way.
 
johnsonmicro said:
No, I joined to see if I could learn something. I have learned modern people use knives to split and chop wood but seem to ignore the fact a hatchet is much better for the job. Reviews here don't seem to tell me how knives perform but focus on what metal is used and what composite the handle is made of, how the blade is ground and how they split wood, and some of these guys have two or three hundred pocket knives which tells me they are actually hoarders and need counseling. I thought people still used knives to gut deer and clean fish or maybe even whittle but it's all about splitting wood. I wondered how these wide and thick blades work when the tool is used as a knife, you know dressing game, skinning game, chopping vegetables and camp chores but all I learned is you can split wood and make notches with it.

I also thought value had something to do with a knife review but no, not here. Again, a fifteen dollar hatchet will split and notch a hell of a lot more wood than either of these knives and part of survival is knowing the right tool for the job. I'm old and have been in the woods all my life and live on a farm. I guess I use knives differently than you 21st century guys, and I don't have a lot of money to waste.

Sorry, I wasted your time and mine.
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Get some money loser! :p
 
johnsonmicro said:
No, I joined to see if I could learn something. I have learned modern people use knives to split and chop wood but seem to ignore the fact a hatchet is much better for the job. Reviews here don't seem to tell me how knives perform but focus on what metal is used and what composite the handle is made of, how the blade is ground and how they split wood, and some of these guys have two or three hundred pocket knives which tells me they are actually hoarders and need counseling. I thought people still used knives to gut deer and clean fish or maybe even whittle but it's all about splitting wood. I wondered how these wide and thick blades work when the tool is used as a knife, you know dressing game, skinning game, chopping vegetables and camp chores but all I learned is you can split wood and make notches with it.

I also thought value had something to do with a knife review but no, not here. Again, a fifteen dollar hatchet will split and notch a hell of a lot more wood than either of these knives and part of survival is knowing the right tool for the job. I'm old and have been in the woods all my life and live on a farm. I guess I use knives differently than you 21st century guys, and I don't have a lot of money to waste.

Sorry, I wasted your time and mine.
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Yup, wrong thread to get into. There are plenty of threads on topics that might more apply to you. There are a lot people on this forum who do use knives for dressing game and gutting fish, and to claim otherwise is completely misinformed.

This is a vs. thread between two expensive pocket knives. Nobody here is going to be splitting wood with either of these knives like you claim.

Sit back a bit, go to sub forums that are more pertinent to what your experience and usage of knives relate to, read some stuff that might matter to you. Contribute in areas you have valuable information to share. Don't just troll on things you don't like or understand. And certainly don't insult us by claiming we need "counseling". We already know that.
 
I've tried to like the Southard enough to buy one. On two separate occasions, handled / flipped / inspected one at a dealer table only to move on without buying. It simply failed to excite or impress me. Great steel, quick action, light weight, etc., etc. I know - it's a great knife, no doubt, but it just didn't knock my socks off.

On the other hand, My socks have been knocked off for five days now. This 0562 is just as impressive as any Chris Reeve knife I own. It's that good.
 
This kind of knife is in ZT's wheelhouse, in fact, the 0562CF represents a lot of what they are about: Ti framelock, bearing flipper, high end materials at great value etc. With that being said, the Southard is also a well executed example of the genre.

The Southard is one of the very best production Ti/frame/flipper collabs out there and while I haven't received my 0562CF yet, it is probably safe to assume that it will not disappoint and be right amongst the top options as well... Can't go wrong with either: It's like owning either a Brad Southard custom or a Rick Hinderer XM18...

When choosing what I'll be carrying on any given day, having to decide between the narrower compact Southard and the more robust sized 0562CF will be a good problem to have ;) sooo... my answer is BOTH :)
 
Stays Sharp said:
When choosing what I'll be carrying on any given day, having to decide between the narrower compact Southard and the more robust sized 0562CF will be a good problem to have ;) sooo... my answer is BOTH :)
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Ditto! It's all about having two excellent choices.
 
I think the first ones started shipping at the end of last week. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that.
 
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