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[BladeScout]

I'm not letting you get away with lying. I never said what I was doing is illegal, I said it was arguably illegal, do I really have to explain the difference between the two?

Do you understand that if you're "caught" with a knife in Denmark that the police, and later a judge will evaluate if you were operating within the boundaries of the law every time?

Do you then understand that under certain circumstances the way I carry daily could maybe, perhaps, arguably be interpreted as being illegal, but it could also very well be interpreted as LEGAL?

It's honestly pathetic that you're lying not only to me, but everyone else here to prove a point that isn't even supported by the framework of the goddamn law.

Yes "EDC" if it pertains to your narrow definition is illegal in Denmark under the strictest interpretation of the law. You got that right, congratulations.

I carry my knife every day (well lets be real, about 95% of the time), what more do you want for me to call it EDC? Well, let me ask, what do you call the sort of carrying I do? To and from work, sometimes go by the gas station or the local grocery store leaving my knife in my car while doing so?

What is that kind of carry supposed to be called? I certainly don't want to upset you and mislead you any longer.

Okay, you need to calm down.

Stop throwing a tantrum.

I was merely informing you that EDC was not legal in Denmark in the hope you avoid jail.

Here is what you said - with your 'arguably' in there. Not that it makes a difference.

It's not a typo, I do EDC my knife every day.
I live way out in the rurals. Yes what I'm doing is arguably illegal, but first I have to actually have an encounter with the police which is incredibly unlikely, and second the encounter need to go so badly for me that they'll shake me down. I'll take my chances and carry as I've always done.

"Do you understand that if you're "caught" with a knife in Denmark that the police, and later a judge will evaluate if you were operating within the boundaries of the law every time?"

Do YOU understand, that several have gotten in trouble with the (knife) law, BECAUSE they thought as you. They thought themselves law abiding citizens.

Its up to first the individual cop (he has some leeway with the blessing of his boss) - if he dont like you.. or the look of you, you are up the creek with no implement for propelling yourself forward.

Then there is the judge - the judicial system is currently making examples and cracking down HARD because of stabbings.

You can read the law text in the link, I posted but you are obviously not aware of how the system reacts nor how the situation currently is.

"Do you then understand that under certain circumstances the way I carry daily could maybe, perhaps, arguably be interpreted as being illegal, but it could also very well be interpreted as LEGAL?"

Wow, do you even read, what you post. You really are taking your chances.

"The police supports my actions."

Gimme a break.

You need to quit while you are ahead.

Actually, the train has long left the station on that one.

 

[BladeScout]

I bought a Spyderco-Farid K2, when they got discounted.

I suppose it qualifies as overbuilt.

Its ridiculously big.

Id hoped for a smaller version of the Farid-Spyderco collab and there were initial talks but evidently, there was some sort of falling out, so thats sadly not likely to happen.

 

[NorseVet]

Wow, do you even read, what you post. You really are taking your chances.

I am, it's a combination of knowing how incredibly unlikely I am to ever get searched by the police AND the fact that even if I do, I have a whole bunch of legit and valid reasons for carrying a knife in the first place.

We have some incredibly stupid knife laws, I'm trying to get by abiding by the law as much as humanly possible, but I'm not a city dweller, I need a knife in my daily life. It is what it is.

I'm not suggesting people (in Denmark) to "EDC" their knife if they 1. are likely to get searched by the police and 2. if they aren't operating in good faith within the boundaries of the law.

Edit: And my arguably makes all the difference in the context of what you posted afterwards, because you started out suggesting I wasn't welcome on this forum, because I was admitting to doing something illegal which I never did, maybe read your own posts and see how they came across?

 

[BladeScout]

I have always favored smaller fixed blades think bird and trout , that said I dont big game hunt just birds mainly. Here in the states unlike Europe they dont much like dogs going afield when it comes to shooting deer and I dont think my small munsterland would forgive me if I went off hunting w/o her. Dont get me wrong I love large blades to look at or fondle but breasting out a dove might be a tad difficult w/some of these over built folders...or fix blades for that matter

I used to go bird hunting a lot.

Then later it was deer and various other four legged beasts, Kudo, Wildebeest etc.

A rifle got boring - I mean any idiot can hit deer with a rifle at the most common distances, so I went hog hunting with a knife.

That was ... interesting.

Must admit, that I like hunting hogs - Texas, other various states, Germany, Poland etc - also warthogs in Africa.

There is just something about hogs and warthogs.

I understand the need for a smaller knife for birds. Ive admired many a slender elegant bird & trout knife.

 

[BladeScout]

We really are full circle (again); you semi-acquiesce but then go ballistic again.

Edit: And my arguably makes all the difference in the context of what you posted afterwards, because you started out suggesting I wasn't welcome on this forum, because I was admitting to doing something illegal which I never did, maybe read your own posts and see how they came across?

WOW!
Now you are just making things up.
Again, do you even proof read.
You really are operating in a universe all your own.

I of course suggested nothing of the sort.

Here is what I posted and I stand by every word:

Its not 'arguably illegal,' its unequivocally 100% illegal and will land you in hot water with the law, if you are spotted - rural area or not.

With Denmark being so tiny, its not like you can go many places with no human contact, so rural area dont count for much in regards to a knife not being spotted.

Due to stabbings, people in several European countries in general dont have much understanding for those carrying a knife

You have stated your POV; you absolutely disregard the law, well knowing that its illegal for you to EDC a knife.

Thats your business.

Its however reflects badly on BF to have its members openly stating their contempt and disregard for the law in their respective countries.

BF shouldnt be seen as a haven for those with nothing but contempt in general for the laws (silly knife law or not). Enough people think we have a weird hobby as is.

I was admitting to doing something illegal which I never did

Ohh, dear ...

It's not a typo, I do EDC my knife every day.
I live way out in the rurals. Yes what I'm doing is arguably illegal, but first I have to actually have an encounter with the police which is incredibly unlikely, and second the encounter need to go so badly for me that they'll shake me down. I'll take my chances and carry as I've always done.

Look, lets just agree to disagree and be on our merry respective ways. This is beyond silly now.​

 

[NorseVet]

Look, lets just agree to disagree and be on our merry respective ways. This is beyond silly now.​

Sure, I'll just add one last thing, again to bring context to my position:

If the laws of which you have to abide by have no set definitions, but depends almost entirely on the person judging you, how are you supposed to know for sure if what you're doing is illegal or not.

The answer is you don't until you're actually standing in front of an officer and eventually a judge.
Yes I know bringing a knife to a bar or a football stadium (or anything similar) is expressively forbidden, and I would never do that, honestly. But other than that?

 

[Higgs Particle steel]

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[BladeScout]

I could not agree more.

After all, Im not my brothers keeper.​

and as Ive already said:

Look, lets just agree to disagree and be on our merry respective ways. This is beyond silly now.​

As for taking this to PM and continuing this nonsese going in circles; thatll be a cold day in Hell.

 

[Lapedog]

The biggest folder I have is a para military 2 ...and thats not over built at all from the looks of some of the knives on here. Question, are over built folders as durable as fixed blades of the same size?

There has never been a folder that is as strong as a fixed blade. This is despite knife companies often using the marketing term, “folding fixed blade”.

It is just impossible for a folder to he as strong as a continuous piece of steel. This includes folders with secondary locks like Lionsteel’s Rotoblock or CRKT’s LAWKS.

Although there are certain folders that are stronger than certain fixed blades. Ie: there might be some folders that will baton better than a paper thin fillet knife.

 

[Higgs Particle steel]

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[BladeScout]

There has never been a folder that is as strong as a fixed blade. This is despite knife companies often using the marketing term, “folding fixed blade”.

This always caused me to muse over why, folk wants these overbuilt folders - is it because they are used to folders?

... and where is the breaking point, where a folder gets so big, that it wouldnt make sense not using a fixed knife instead.

I say using, as of course many of these overbuilt folders are just toys and wont get used or not used hard. I hesitate saying 'pocket' toys, as some would be cumbersome to carry.

 

[BladeScout]

Yeah that was a cliche suggestion on my part. lol

 

[BladeScout]

Didnt mean to take the thread this far off topic.

....I simply had no idea.

 

[NorseVet]

This always caused me to muse over why, folk wants these overbuilt folders - is it because they are used to folders?

Simply because it's cool to people, having a folding knife about as strong as a fixed blade is appealing to some.

I'll give no disagreement that fixed blades are what you need for serious works, but knife collecting is as much about practical use as it's just buying stuff because it excites you. Not really that complicated.

 

[BladeScout]

GB2 - plenty overbuilt folder.

 

[BladeScout]

As is this.

I want one.

Sadly discoed.

 

[HST]

BladeScout What are you? Dudley Do Right? Did you speed to work today? So you obey the law 100% of the time?

Reflect bad on BF? Hahahaaaa! Pretty sure the majority here is the “Don’t Tread On Me” crowd. Disregard for others is another story, but who do you think you are to tell another how to act or what to do and, even more so, in another country. Grow up!

Furthermore, buy a membership that reflects your faithfulness to BF and its integrity.

 

[Lapedog]

I would assume people want overbuilt (with the assumption of being tough) folders for the same reason they want overbuilt and tough fixed blades.

In order to put to work that they wouldn’t want to use their gentlemen’s folders for.

Here’s a trip, how many OVERBUILT folders have lockbar cutouts that go thinner than a liner on a linerlock?

Most knives have some weakness that you could exploit to cause it to fail.

 

[BladeScout]

BladeScout What are you? Dudley Do Right? Did you speed to work today? So you obey the law 100% of the time?

Reflect bad on BF? Hahahaaaa! Pretty sure the majority here is the “Don’t Tread On Me” crowd. Disregard for others is another story, but who do you think you are to tell another how to act or what to do and, even more so, in another country. Grow up!

Furthermore, buy a membership that reflects your faithfulness to BF and its integrity.

Thx for your 'valuable' input and impeccable timing in a thread, where the OP just requested, we put a lid on it and got back on track.

I wont respond to you further in this thread besides this post.

Suffice it to say, that I doubt BF condones law breaking in general nor would like to see it promoted on these pages but good luck with that.

'Dont Tread On Me' mentality in Denmark - good luck with that also. It would land you in jail there asap.

You obviously have no idea of the horrible anti-knife climate in that country.

 

[Higgs Particle steel]

This always caused me to muse over why, folk wants these overbuilt folders - is it because they are used to folders?

Im not sure why people want the overbuilt folders. The reason I started this thread was because there was another thread recently but the OP bought some knives back in late Jan and people kept making suggestions. I found it interesting though so I wanted to make a similar thread but not asking about advice on purchases.

As far as the end of your post I guess I carry a folder out of habit but in the past year Ive actually bought some small fixed blades.

I bought a Benchmade Adamas because I thought it was cool I bought a Praetorian T because I thought it was cool. If I took a $700 knife out in the woods Id probably lose it. If I lose a Benchmade, Spyderco, or ZT, I can easily replace it, it would suck but whatever. My fixed blades are mostly Bark Rivers which are in a similar price range, it would still suck however Ive never lost a fixed blade. About 20 years ago I left a Buck 119 on the ground but I went back and got it.

Oh and BHQ raised the price of their 4Max to $399.