165OT Woodsman/UH Prospector ramble

C'mon Phil,

I'm laying down a chum line that would bring MEGALODON to the surface.....

Certainly you can tell me if I get a magical certificate to cradle near and dear to my........aw shucks, you know what I mean.....Just one quick thrust with the Excalibur (hmmmm, previous thread somewhere?) of Schrades, and a little Day Glo orange paracord, and I'm a happy man.

The heat ( 110 today ) can do strange things to a man.

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Ho, Ho, Ho.....
You forum policeman, you.....just try to move my post to the Buck Forum... :D

Bill..... Chumming with Mike Nelson.
 
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...Anyone need a section of this cord, let me know...
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Thanks Phil, I still have some...

Luis

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There is a Buck forum? When did they do that?

I like Mike Nelson's theme song "Mack the Knife"!

Codger
 
Since we already have Buck and Leatherman content (there's an old Leatherman in Phil's picture, right ??).

Here's a couple of diver knives with lanyards, Aitor (top) and Kershaw (bottom):

Luis

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Hi, Codger. My husband and I have a collection of knives that we inherited and have had for over 20 years. I just joined this forum and plan to do research on the knives that we have. The Old Timer was the first one I picked up, and after reading your posts, you seem quite knowledgeable and therefore I was hoping that you might share some of that knowledge with someone who doesn't know anything about knives!
We are interested in finding the value on these knives and possibly selling the collection. We really don't know where to start......
The Old Timer that we have has a serial # of 13753 and is on the side that does NOT have the "OLD TIMER" metal plate on it. It has the SCHRADE over WALDEN over 165 printed sideways next to the #. The sheath is the kind with 2 rivets, single stitching. It is in the original box, has the sharpening stone and the paper work with it. It says that it sold for $20. Any idea what the value of this might be? Any info will be greatly appreciated! I have LOTS more questions, but this is good for starters! THANKS!
 
Welcome to the forum cleantoofs!

These are currently going on eBay for $30 - $80 depending on condition. Possibly more if absolutely mint in a mint box and complete. And of course how well written and illustrated the listing is. They seem to be in fair demand right now with hunting seasons beginning in most areas of the country. Of course collectors are looking for them too, but hunters are in large part traditionalists, and a knife does not get much more utilitarian and traditional then the Old Timer 165. Schrade Walden marked knives bring a small premium over knives in the same condition marked Schrade, at least among collectors who know the difference, and particularly when the original box and acessories are present and also in good condition.. Hunters just want a new older knife like they (or their father or Grandfather) once had. To them, the stamp matters less than the shield and sheath. I am not knowledgable enough to appraise your knife, and any price I might suggest would only be my opinion based upon what I would give for such a knife. I hope this helps some. Pictures would help me and others to get a better idea of the actual condition.

Codger
 
Welcome to our forum, Cleentoofs.
Codger be THE MAN for information on the 165OT.
Phil
 
THANKS! I have been going through the "collection" and found a couple more Schrade Waldens. One is the 1775 Minute Man and the other is the Alaskan Old Timer Hunter. All are still in the box, but none are in mint condition or anything. They were obviously used.
If I wanted to get an appraisal on them, or find out what they would bring, where would I go or who should I contact? We have many more varieties....Marbles, for instance. I am a real DUMMY when it comes to this stuff! I am an Ebay seller, however. Would that be the best way to go, do you think? I appreciate your input! Penney
 
Penney,
Ebay is a good place to see what ebay will bring as a price. I have seen bothe these knives on ebay but for the life of me cant remember what they look like or the prices they brought. I'd love to hear what else is in the collection. We can surely make a stab at what we think they might bring.
If you send pictures to me and I'll post em for you.
TTYL
Larry.
 
I will try to get some pics taken and post them as soon as I can. Everything needs a bit of cleaning up. Thanks. all!
 
Light cleaning is good on a knife, deep cleaning can be bad. Some sellers try to take off years of aging (patina) from a rare knife and actually hurt it's value. Phil, Rich and Larry can explain this better than I, but sometimes just removing dust and the surface dirt , lint etc. and applying light oil is clean enough.

Codger
 
Thanks....I was wondering about that. Didn't want to use a cleaning solution that might do damage. What type of oil do I use? Some have a green waxy looking stuff on them....guess I should get that off??...
Also, the original owner, my husband's stepfather, engraved his initials in a few of the knives....will that decrease value? He obviously loved, and used, all of his knives. I'm going to have fun today going through them all and I will take pictures. Maybe someone can help tell me what I have and what a ball-park value may be. Thanks for all advice!
Penney
 
CleenToofs said:
Thanks....I was wondering about that. Didn't want to use a cleaning solution that might do damage. What type of oil do I use? Some have a green waxy looking stuff on them....guess I should get that off??...
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Here is a thread we did a while back where we discussed they green...what, why and how.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364472&highlight=green

CleenToofs said:
Also, the original owner, my husband's stepfather, engraved his initials in a few of the knives....will that decrease value? He obviously loved, and used, all of his knives....
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Penny, engraving the blades decreases the value even more than gentle use. Especially to a collector. But not as much to a person looking for a good user. (Unless he was someone famous, then it could ADD value!)

CleenToofs said:
I'm going to have fun today going through them all and I will take pictures. Maybe someone can help tell me what I have and what a ball-park value may be. Thanks for all advice!
Penney
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I'm looking forward to seeing your collection. I am personally especially fond of knives with a known owner/user history. That to me is so much more interesting than a knife that can only be said to have lain for years in a box untouched. Does that make sense? WHile the latter may be worth more money, the former has more value!

Codger
 
Thanks again! I have spent the better part of the day cleaning these things up! Didn't know what I was getting myself into! I only got 2 cuts and ruined 4 fingernails, however.
Anyway, I took some pictures of The Schrade Knives (I'll get to all the others another time......). I tried to get numbers to show in the pics, but didn't have much luck. I am sure you will recognize the different ones anyway. The 165OT has the #13753 on it. The Alaskan Old Timer Hunter says Schrade-Walden, N Y U.S.A. 250T, There are 2 Minute Man knives. They both say Battle of Concord April 19, 1775, S.W. cut MM2 U.S.A., Another one is a 580T and says ULSTER, another one says 293 on one side and Shrade Walden NY U.S.A. on the other, another one has 804 on one side and Shrade NY U.S.A. on the other. Some are in better condition than others.
You mentioned that you liked the histroy behind the knives........Well, these belonged to a man who absolutely loved to hunt and fish. He also had an extensive gun collection and fishing rod/reel collection. He was a bachelor until he was in his 70's when he married my widowed Mother-in-law. He was from Tennessee and was a diesel mechanic by trade. He has been dead for quite a while but would probably be over 100 by now. These knives have been in my husband's possession, in the closet, for over 20 years, so I know most of them are very old.
Anyhow, I cannot figure out how to attach these pictures.......I will have to e-mail them.
Again, Thanks! Penney
 
Penney's Pictures. If you look real close you might see a fingernail or 2.

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Nice looking bunch of knives. A fine, ready made collection. The man that owned them obviously took his time in the outdoors seriously. If you have the boxes for pocket knives that is a plus. Make sure and mention and show them on the bay listings, if that is the way you decide to go with these things.
Phil
 
Thanks for the pic, now I know what my 250OT folding hunter looked like new with the box. The sheath is different than on some other versions, not sure what that means. Anybody know the history of folding hunter sheaths?
 
OTguy said:
........ Anybody know the history of folding hunter sheaths?
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The laced "waffle" imprinted sheaths were the first ones used on the 15OTs back in '64, and since the 25OT was introduced the same year, it is not surprising to see common design elements on that sheath. The "waffle" tooling was deleted from the Deerslayer sheath within a few short years, probably by early '66 or so. Perhaps this was paralleled on the 25OT sheath. These are my best guesses.

Codger
 
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