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That winterbottom bone looks really nice. I wonder how the stag would turn out.
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As I said, I love the idea of equal length blades (Wharny & clip works great) in D2. If the stag's being donated, I personally think we should have that, but of course, I'll go with the majority here.
As for the shield, I have to agree that dropping it is not a bad idea at all. As far as stamping vs etching, I like the stamp better, but also understand wanting to keep the cost down. I would think that once it's known how many we're talking about, at least we'd then know the additional cost. While I'm all for 1 regardless of what's decided, I honestly don't know if I can swing 2, sorry.
So far, this looks like it'll be sweet, though.
As for the shield, I have to agree that dropping it is not a bad idea at all. As far as stamping vs etching, I like the stamp better, but also understand wanting to keep the cost down. I would think that once it's known how many we're talking about, at least we'd then know the additional cost. While I'm all for 1 regardless of what's decided, I honestly don't know if I can swing 2, sorry.
So far, this looks like it'll be sweet, though.
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I'm good with any of the above, but just a note on stag; I've noticed lately that a number of stag knives I've seen from Queen and Queen related companies are WAY too over-ground/hafted, to the point that the stag almost looks like rough bone. This is NOT good and is certainly something I'd think twice about (where before I'd be all for it). I'm in regardless, but I'm just thinking of consistency and unhappiness on the part of forumites down the road. I think jigged bone is certainly a safer option. Is there a choice as to the jigging, or do we go with Queen's choice?
Great job Steven, I'm really looking forward to the final product!
Eric
Great job Steven, I'm really looking forward to the final product!
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It's worth it to me too! Etching is kinda :thumbdn:
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3.5" is smaller than I hoped for, but big enough. Clip and Wharncliffe is great, either steel is fine with me, I'd say dump the shield, with or without numbers makes no difference to me, I won't pass if it's stag but if you can swing the winterbottom bone I might go for three. 
I think the stamped bolster would look better than etched, but having the die for future projects isn't much good if it has 2009 as part of it. I doubt we'll do many more of these projects this year.
I think the stamped bolster would look better than etched, but having the die for future projects isn't much good if it has 2009 as part of it. I doubt we'll do many more of these projects this year.
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Anyone is eligible to join in on this for as many knives as they wish as long as payment gets made before the deadline, or we make other arrangements, which I want to keep at a bare minimum since they usually end up being me fronting the money for a while. The deadline will be around May 2nd or 3rd. Payments by snail mail, check or MO will work. Paypal will not be an option on this.
Keep in mind that if we break 100 pieces, we will not have to pay the $500.00 setup fee.
We will not be able to re-use the stamp...that is sort of an issue....what we can do grind out the 2009, which will leave us with the BFC, if we wanted to do that...of course we would probably have to stick with Queen for future editions.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
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I'm for dropping the shield.
I'd prefer D2 but ATS is fine.
Bone or Stag :thumbup:
Clip & Wharn.
Etch is fine, don't care if # or not.
I'd prefer D2 but ATS is fine.
Bone or Stag :thumbup:
Clip & Wharn.
Etch is fine, don't care if # or not.
Guess I'm the only knob on here but the Barlow turns me off this one. This said, S&M in D2 with Bone will push me over the edge. Don't really care how y'all want it stamped, etched, lasered or whatnot. ATS is cool too. Shield or not, again, don't matter to me. So, I'm 90% in...
Alright, so I'm not a big fan of barlows, but I like the looks of that S&M with the clip and heck, I only got one Barlow, so I'm still in.
I'd prefer the D2, clip and warny(prefer not a spear, I got SAKs for that). But I'll probably stay in with the ATS.
I'm good with ditching the shield too, like has been said, it's not really traditional on a Barlow anyway. I'm fine with the etched bolster, but I wonder if we can at least ask for nice deep etches. I haven't seen many Queen etched bolsters/shields but the blades I've seen have varied a good bit, so I'd be concerned about that. I wonder if we can check with them and make sure they can do an etch deep enough to feel, if you know what I mean there. If it only comes down to 10 bucks, I'll pony up for the stamped bolster with no complaints. Oh, and I don't care one way or the other on serializing them. Take it or leave it.
Scales..... I prefer the jigged bone. Assuming it's similar to the S&M, I think we get a nice handle. I've got one and handled several of that series and they are pretty dang nice. I've had such spotty luck with stag lately that thats almost a deal breaker. Don't get me wrong, I love nice, well done stag as well as the next guy, but I haven't gotten a really good one in a couple years, and the ok ones have only been ok, not good. Shields badly inlaid, left way to thick so they have to be ground smooth for most of the slab, etc. Last years Northwoods stag was a serious letdown.
Overall it sounds good, you guys have done a great job with this, I'm sure we all appreciate it, but I know I sure do.
Syn
I'd prefer the D2, clip and warny(prefer not a spear, I got SAKs for that). But I'll probably stay in with the ATS.
I'm good with ditching the shield too, like has been said, it's not really traditional on a Barlow anyway. I'm fine with the etched bolster, but I wonder if we can at least ask for nice deep etches. I haven't seen many Queen etched bolsters/shields but the blades I've seen have varied a good bit, so I'd be concerned about that. I wonder if we can check with them and make sure they can do an etch deep enough to feel, if you know what I mean there. If it only comes down to 10 bucks, I'll pony up for the stamped bolster with no complaints. Oh, and I don't care one way or the other on serializing them. Take it or leave it.
Scales..... I prefer the jigged bone. Assuming it's similar to the S&M, I think we get a nice handle. I've got one and handled several of that series and they are pretty dang nice. I've had such spotty luck with stag lately that thats almost a deal breaker. Don't get me wrong, I love nice, well done stag as well as the next guy, but I haven't gotten a really good one in a couple years, and the ok ones have only been ok, not good. Shields badly inlaid, left way to thick so they have to be ground smooth for most of the slab, etc. Last years Northwoods stag was a serious letdown.
Overall it sounds good, you guys have done a great job with this, I'm sure we all appreciate it, but I know I sure do.
Syn
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Well, I think if we toss the shield, stay with D2, & hopefully get 100 buyers, we won't have to pay the stamp fee & would have the best of both.
I had originally voted the swayback Jack & am admittedly am not a Barlow fan, but the size & 2 equal length blades, especially one being a wharny, definitely sounds like a great knife.
I had originally voted the swayback Jack & am admittedly am not a Barlow fan, but the size & 2 equal length blades, especially one being a wharny, definitely sounds like a great knife.
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1. Good, we will drop the shield...I just thought you would all want it....saves us a couple bucks.:thumbup:
Some further clarification:
2. Stag is going on the knife if it works out that way...simple...not optional....IF the stag doesn't happen it will be bone...probably something very similar to what is on the S&M...very attractive, imo. IF the stag is going to happen, we will coach Queen's head of production on how we would like it to appear when finished, I have some excellent examples here...I'll send them to her.
Do you guys really think that we would opt for badly done stag? Rest assured, you are working with experts.
3. The etch would be a LASER etch, deeper, crisper....Jennie told me that is what they used on the bolsters of the 100th Anniversary, if anyone wants to dig that up. OTHERWISE, if we do not get 100 knives, we are charged $500.00 for setup, AND $500.00 for a stamp, as well as a bolster stamping fee...that will put us at about $100/knife, delivered, because we can drop a couple bucks off for no shield.
4. So far, it looks like we stick with D2, sorry to those of you who are not in because of it...maybe next year.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
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