2013 BF Traditional knife announcement and detail discussion

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mike Berkovitch said:
Sheep foot main, pen secondary, nice swedges on both blades, square pinched bolsters, aged ivory micarta scales and extended spring, bar shield. Not bigger than 3 5/8" closed. That would be my choice. Thanks for this year team for the hard work.
Mike
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This is my preference as well. Butterscotch micarta or Westinghouse would work fine as well.
Thanks to everyone who's putting such effort into this project.

Fausto
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All, I would love for this to be a 4" knife. That's what I'd prefer, but I know some of you have legal requirements to that max length. Can those affected chime in on what those lengths are?
 
no real preference on color other than not white or black.
antique ivory or butterscotch micarta would be fine, as would maroon or burgundy micarta, or coffee acrylic.
copper or brass bolsters (both ends) and liners would go well with any of those colors
prefer no shield
long nick and half stops
not a huge fan of the pen blade as a secondary, but no real preference as to what would be better.
I do like the idea of the secondary being roughly half - 2/3rds as long as the main blade.
 
Woodrow F Call said:
All, I would love for this to be a 4" knife. That's what I'd prefer, but I know some of you have legal requirements to that max length. Can those affected chime in on what those lengths are?
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I have heard more than 1 person say that 3" is their legal limit. I believe that was from a state down south. What about Europe, what are the limits there??

Dave
 
pertinux said:
For reference (top two knives/blades):
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~ P.
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P- that would be my ideal blade I think, it is almost all belly, and as long as it could fit in the frame I would be all over it. I had not paid attention to that knife before, thank you.

willgoy said:
Well, something along the lines of the Modified Pen blade that CASE uses on the Small Texas Jack would be highly suitable. Longer and broader than the run of the mill Pen blades. Some Whittlers offer interesting small Clip blades, this too is worthwhile. After all, IF it's called a Congress Jack then surely it must have a small blade as its minor, not some Turkish Clip, Spey etc.?!
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When I suggested the Spey, I had envisioned a smaller stockman sized one, not a full length one like on a trapper. I personally don't think that two longer blades would fit this design, the secondary blade in my opinion should be around half as long or shorter, to increase its usefulness with detailed work. I find more overlap in blade type as he lengths get closer to each other, which decreases versatility, and versatility is why I carry multiple bladed slip joints.
 
I have no idea if it would fit the frame or if the selected manufacturer would do it, but the modified clip-ish blade on the left side of this knife (from another thread) might fit what you guys are talking about:

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Blaine,

That is a Queen produced stockman, so something to keep in mind if we decide to go with them.
 
3.5" - 4" length won the poll so, the minimum length of the knife closed should be 3.5". 3 5/8" would be perfect for me with 3 3/4" being ok too - even 4" if it comes to it.

Legal limits for various jurisdictions wasn't taken into account for the 2012 BF knife or other previous years knives. If anyone is concerned about legal limits for their jurisdiction they either don't have to order this years knife or order it and not carry it and treat it as a collectibe as many do who have these knives.

bwperdue (Blaine) - That little clip blade looks nice but to my mind and from looking at the Congress knives and Congress Jack knives I have, a small pen blade is more appropriate for the Congress Jack. The blades of the knife you posted sometime ago are perfect - the knive with the rattail bolsters.

This knife. Not my photo.

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russde said:
Really looking forward to this...
My wish list (not that I know anything, and I'll buy it anyway, but...)
Wraparound spring - looks SO nice
Looooong sheepsfoot primary with swedges
Longer than average pen secondary, or maybe a small clip? Hmm

Other than those things, well, as I said, I'll buy one regardless. But I might buy two if it has those things.

<Edit to add a picture, not mine, but beautiful example another member posted in the other thread>
If it were close to this, I'd buy two and maybe three
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Now thats pure class!!! I am down with that.
 
Modoc ED said:
3.5" - 4" length won the poll so, the minimum length of the knife closed should be 3.5". 3 5/8" would be perfect for me with 3 3/4" being ok too - even 4" if it comes to it.

Legal limits for various jurisdictions wasn't taken into account for the 2012 BF knife or other previous years knives. If anyone is concerned about legal limits for their jurisdiction they either don't have to order this years knife or order it and not carry it and treat it as a collectibe as many do who have these knives.
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I agree, but we still have 3.5-4" to work with if it mattered right?
 
Woodrow F Call said:
I agree, but we still have 3.5-4" to work with if it mattered right?
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Yes, that's what I said in my post that you quoted above. Here is what I said again.

Posted by Modoc ED:
3.5" - 4" length won the poll so, the minimum length of the knife closed should be 3.5". 3 5/8" would be perfect for me with 3 3/4" being ok too - even 4" if it comes to it.
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Lots of cool ideas so far. I'd be really pleased with a sheepsfoot main, secondary could be either a pen or a clip, makes no difference to me. D2 or 1095 would be my steel of choice. This is going to turn out to be a really cool one!
 
Who decides the length? Seems like these are the choices:
a) 3 1/2"
b) 3 5/8"
c) 3 9/16"
d) 3 3/4"
e) 3 7/8"
f) 4"

Will there be more polls for the length, blades, shield type, handle color, bolster treatments, etc?

Ed - I like that knife just like it is. The blades seem correct for a congress to me.
 
It seems like there is a majority opinion developing around several of these items, so further polling may not be necessary...we'll see.

The length will likely be determined by several factors, but part of it will involve working with the prospective makers to see what makes sense aesthetically and economically.
 
thawk said:
Who decides the length? Seems like these are the choices:
a) 3 1/2"
b) 3 5/8"
c) 3 9/16"
d) 3 3/4"
e) 3 7/8"
f) 4"

Will there be more polls for the length, blades, shield type, handle color, bolster treatments, etc?

Ed - I like that knife just like it is. The blades seem correct for a congress to me.
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Yes, those blades would be perfect.

Since the winning poll was for 3.5" to 4", all of the lengths you listed could be used. I don't think we need another poll. The committee should decide the length on whats available from the vendors but I do know that 3 5/8" is available from Queen and a couple of others. 3 5/8" or 3 3/4" would be perfect.

I do think a poll could be run for shield type, handle color, and bolster treatments - all in the same poll.
 
silenthunterstudios said:
I vote for whatever is easiest for those working to make this happen.
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I agree. Everyone has their own hot and cold buttons. For me I like the lengths in the middle, almost anything except white color (with texture), definitely a shield, and grooved or rat tailed bolsters. Blades should be traditional to the pattern. The example Ed shows would be my first choice. Especially that long pulled sheepsfoot.
 
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