2020 GEC #23 Trapper Thread

Rusty1 said:
I may of missed it if someone has mentioned this before. Not a fan of the way the tang has been chamfered at the corner where it hits the backspring on the squared end. The original 23's were not like this, the end was totally flush. picky but it stands out. Probably done to ease opening the blade.:(

Russell
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Looking thru my collection of square end stuff from the teens and 20s from Challenge and Clauss, they all wear like that with enough use. Trimming the corner with an intentional radius will keep that wear minimal and even... I doubt it's intended to affect the pull at all, but rather to keep a deformity from happening at the edge of the tang as the corner rounds off by itself.
 
AndreLinoge said:
Looking thru my collection of square end stuff from the teens and 20s from Challenge and Clauss, they all wear like that with enough use. Trimming the corner with an intentional radius will keep that wear minimal and even... I doubt it's intended to affect the pull at all, but rather to keep a deformity from happening at the edge of the tang as the corner rounds off by itself.
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Agree to a point, and yes they do wear I have seen this also I just don't think they should be like that new. That edge on the tang is subjected to the first part of the knife opening, it surely would effect the ease of opening when chamfered or squared off a harder opening. :)

Russell
 
Rusty1 said:
I may of missed it if someone has mentioned this before. Not a fan of the way the tang has been chamfered at the corner where it hits the backspring on the squared end. The original 23's were not like this, the end was totally flush. picky but it stands out. Probably done to ease opening the blade.:(

Russell
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Neither blade of mine is chamfered , but I had made up my mind that I would Chamfer both blades if the pull was 9 or higher . The initial appearance does not matter to me as much as a smooth opening does . But I am very happy with my 7 pull as is .

Harry
 
My beaver tail is like a damn bear trap. I ripped half my thumb nail off the first night I had it. I haven’t tried opening it again since. I’m going to try it again here soon. It’s one of the best looking knives I’ve seen but man is it a bear to open!
 
Quiet said:
I received my Beaver Tail #23 on Friday, and at first I was concerned with its heavy-duty pulls, but have to say that after collecting several of the #97s with their pulls at a very decidedly non-confidence inducing 3 or 4, I think I prefer the heavy pulls on traditional with blades this size. It's almost like GEC wanted to respond to the criticisms of the #97.
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I love the lighter pulls on the #97 Allegheny knives. I stick those #97 knives between my thigh/knees and open them right up with less nail breaking. I was really hoping for a lighter pull on the #23s. I am really happy now that I did not get my wish. Sales are slowing up on the Woodland Micarta , Beaver Gnawed cherry-wood and even the Northfield Antique Autumn Natural bone knives. A lighter pull #23 would mean lower sales. GEC Dealers have taken a big hit this year. The dealers need to sell every knife that they can. Bill Howard needs to offer 2 to 3 times the choices of each run. 200 to 300 pieces , not 500 to 600 pieces of each choice --- This would result in all knives being sold after creating a buyers frensy . Most GEC collectors are not even thinking about buying knives right now. Keeping you job , keeping your home, food on the table is the number one priority . GEC needs to find the best new 2020 strategy. More choices could increase sales. Too many knives of the same color might really hurt the smaller dealers . And we don't want that at all. "BUY AMERICAN OR STARVE" I am trying to buy 10 to 12+ GEC23/23LL knives. I am trying to do my part. No more secondary knives for me , I want to support this great American company. I bought some CASE XX knives too.
 
Took a few outdoor photos of the Beaver Tail today.

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I also got this comparison shot of the#23 next to another large(ish) Beaver Tail that I’ve been carrying a lot lately, the #43 Oregon Trapper.

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Murphjd25 said:
My beaver tail is like a damn bear trap. I ripped half my thumb nail off the first night I had it. I haven’t tried opening it again since. I’m going to try it again here soon. It’s one of the best looking knives I’ve seen but man is it a bear to open!
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Same thing happened to one arm me ! Take an old t-shirt and wrap it around the blade. Rock it back and forth a thousand times , while watching TV. My Beaver gnawed cherry wood #23 Trapper needs more play to loosen it up. It is more difficult for me to do this process. All my #23 users EDC knives will receive this attention in the future.
 
Old Engineer said:
Neither blade of mine is chamfered , but I had made up my mind that I would Chamfer both blades if the pull was 9 or higher . The initial appearance does not matter to me as much as a smooth opening does . But I am very happy with my 7 pull as is .

Harry[/
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Old Engineer said:
Neither blade of mine is chamfered , but I had made up my mind that I would Chamfer both blades if the pull was 9 or higher . The initial appearance does not matter to me as much as a smooth opening does . But I am very happy with my 7 pull as is .

Harry
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How would you go about doing the chamfer?
I’m especially curious about the tang corner that’s closest to the spring when the knife is folded (blade in).

Peter
 
AndreLinoge said:
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2" of change out of my bucket... Hoping to hit the second wave of those Northfields later. Unless i already missed the restock over at traditionalpocketknives... That would suck.
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Love the change bucket idea and It doesn't take long to add up either. Especially here in Canada were our $1 & $2 bills have been replaced by coins lol.:D
 
Peter Cho said:
How would you go about doing the chamfer?
I’m especially curious about the tang corner that’s closest to the spring when the knife is folded (blade in).

Peter
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I use a very narrow file and chamfer the corner that will take care of the getting open to the Half Stop . Then I do not have to worry about the other corner .
You may want to think about the angle that your thumb is at first . Think of pushing it open to half stop instead of pulling and do not have long finger nails .

Harry
 
Onearmbladenut said:
I love the lighter pulls on the #97 Allegheny knives. I stick those #97 knives between my thigh/knees and open them right up with less nail breaking. I was really hoping for a lighter pull on the #23s. I am really happy now that I did not get my wish. Sales are slowing up on the Woodland Micarta , Beaver Gnawed cherry-wood and even the Northfield Antique Autumn Natural bone knives. A lighter pull #23 would mean lower sales. GEC Dealers have taken a big hit this year. The dealers need to sell every knife that they can. Bill Howard needs to offer 2 to 3 times the choices of each run. 200 to 300 pieces , not 500 to 600 pieces of each choice --- This would result in all knives being sold after creating a buyers frensy . Most GEC collectors are not even thinking about buying knives right now. Keeping you job , keeping your home, food on the table is the number one priority . GEC needs to find the best new 2020 strategy. More choices could increase sales. Too many knives of the same color might really hurt the smaller dealers . And we don't want that at all. "BUY AMERICAN OR STARVE" I am trying to buy 10 to 12+ GEC23/23LL knives. I am trying to do my part. No more secondary knives for me , I want to support this great American company. I bought some CASE XX knives too.
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You know, I just don't see how offering more choices or less on GEC's part will help with the quantity of disposable capital people have to spend on knives. 1 cover choice or 20 on this #23 run wouldn't change the fact that I had to use my change bucket to buy one in order to stay out of my grocery/bill money, for instance.
 
Old Engineer said:
I use a very narrow file and chamfer the corner that will take care of the getting open to the Half Stop . Then I do not have to worry about the other corner .
You may want to think about the angle that your thumb is at first . Think of pushing it open to half stop instead of pulling and do not have long finger nails .

Harry
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Harry,

Thanks for that! I was considering doing it, but I think my woodland micarta is manageable enough. I figure that the half stop’s most important feature for this knife is to prevent an accidental SNAP closed. Removing that material would likely reduce the blade’s ability to resist the spring closing action.

Peter
 
tmd_87 said:
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I have a question and this picture illustrates it well...
The 23 pattern has a very distinctive handle shape reminiscent of fixed blade hunters, where the butt of the handle wraps gently down to help hold the knife from slipping forward, and the slight bulge at the center scale pin 'locks' in your fingers as you grip the knife for hard use. With the second blade closed, all of the handle design benefits are negated. I get they use the same frame pattern on both 1 and 2 bladed knives. But why put two blades on a handle that is so perfectly designed for one blade?

I get it - options, horses for courses, 2 is 1 and 1 is none, buy what you like, etc....

I guess I'm trying to say this handle looks super comfortable in a single blade configuration.
 
ddavis said:
I have a question and this picture illustrates it well...
The 23 pattern has a very distinctive handle shape reminiscent of fixed blade hunters, where the butt of the handle wraps gently down to help hold the knife from slipping forward, and the slight bulge at the center scale pin 'locks' in your fingers as you grip the knife for hard use. With the second blade closed, all of the handle design benefits are negated. I get they use the same frame pattern on both 1 and 2 bladed knives. But why put two blades on a handle that is so perfectly designed for one blade?

I get it - options, horses for courses, 2 is 1 and 1 is none, buy what you like, etc....

I guess I'm trying to say this handle looks super comfortable in a single blade configuration.
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I agree. The two-blades just don’t do a lot for me in this pattern, although they are very pretty.
 
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