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Insipid, I dare say your wasting your time going back and forth with Boris. He already knows everything, he's here to teach us. :rolleyes:
 
shinyedges said:
Insipid, I dare say your wasting your time going back and forth with Boris. He already knows everything, he's here to teach us. :rolleyes:
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You're right, I'm just struggling with my SIWOTI syndrome. ;) As often as it happens I'm still always sort of stunned when someone tells me my direct, firsthand experience that's backed by science is wrong.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
You're right, I'm just struggling with my SIWOTI syndrome. ;) As often as it happens I'm still always sort of stunned when someone tells me my direct, firsthand experience that's backed by science is wrong.
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Well there is a place you can go that a whole bunch of people will do that all day long... ;) :D

And they all sorta sound like Boris... Oh I mean Duane...
 
I had to google SIWOTI and I almost spit my orange juice all over the place LOL

Ive exhausted my patience with Duane(boris) , time to throw in the towel. Can't save everyone from their own ignorance.

Insipid Moniker said:
You're right, I'm just struggling with my SIWOTI syndrome. ;) As often as it happens I'm still always sort of stunned when someone tells me my direct, firsthand experience that's backed by science is wrong.
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Yea its a website about knives that for some odd reason people show up with thinking they know everything... hmm the name eludes me.
Ankerson said:
Well there is a place you can go that a whole bunch of people will do that all day long... ;) :D

And they all sorta sound like Boris... Oh I mean Duane...
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Insipid Moniker said:
You're right, I'm just struggling with my SIWOTI syndrome. ;) As often as it happens I'm still always sort of stunned when someone tells me my direct, firsthand experience that's backed by science is wrong.
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No, you're right.

Them throw away utility blades they hand out break too easy. If your cardboard exposure includes them thick steel copper plated staples then you know the recycler will reject shipments of cardboard with just one of them in it. So the poo hits the fan when a load is sent back and many man hours are wasted sifting through the cardboard looking for that one metal staple. Them thin utility blades won't budge them staples, they just snap. You need to pry, bend then go to the other side and do it again then flip it over and pry it out. The utility blades are used for simple package tape.

The rest of you should not be so upset. I used your science, I used your google and my goodness it did not impress me much on 3V. It kind of turned me off to it. After I used your recommended science all you did was go straight to personal attacks. Another core behavior here.

All in all I had a nice conversation at least. Any time I learn something it's a good conversation. Learned the science just might be able to show me deficiencies some posters are leaving out.
 
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Duane Sanders said:
No, you're right.

Them throw away utility blades they hand out break too easy. If your cardboard exposure includes them thick steel copper plated staples then you know the recycler will reject shipments of cardboard with just one of them in it. So the poo hits the fan when a load is sent back and many man hours are wasted sifting through the cardboard looking for that one metal staple. Them thin utility blades won't budge them staples, they just snap. You need to pry, bend then go to the other side and do it again then flip it over and pry it out. The utility blades are used for simple package tape.

The rest of you should not be so upset. I used your science, I used your google and my goodness it did not impress me much on 3V. It kind of turned me off to it. After I used your recommended science all you did was go straight to personal attacks. Another core behavior here.

All in all I had a nice conversation at least. Any time I learn something it's a good conversation. Learned the science just might be able to show me deficiencies some posters are leaving out.
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There's absolutely no way Boris is serious. I think he played us all. When I realized that's what he's doing I started laughing at the ridiculousness of it.

"Science is wrong" "You all are wrong" "Every steel company is wrong" "I am right, therefore Buck is right" " I am the only one who actually uses knives" "No one uses a knife as hard as I do" "Edumacate yourselves"

Dude. Just stop, I'm dying over here.

When he cannot admit that a certain steel is just simply his preference and when he says that everyone else who thinks higher grade steels are crazy and stupid, you know it's BS. :barf:

There are advantages and disadvantages to most steels. Liking certain attributes of a certain steel is fine and dandy, that doesn't mean anyone else is wrong unless they're talking out of their ass. And I believe Duane/Boris is doing just that.

And he's obviously skirting 2 questions/claims. 1) Which steels has he used, and 2) people saying he's Boris left and right.

If I was pretty new to some discussion forum and people kept calling me a name that wasn't me, I think I'd say, at least once, who the f*** is that and why do you keep calling me that name?

He's obviously Boris risen from the dead. I have to hand it to him, he picked up stupid stereotypical southern type grammatical errors to throw off the hounds.
 
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bodog said:
There's absolutely no way Boris is serious. I think he played us all. When I realized that's what he's doing I started laughing at the ridiculousness of it.

"Science is wrong" "You all are wrong" "Every steel company is wrong" "I am right, therefore Buck is right" " I am the only one who actually uses knives" "No one uses a knife as hard as I do" "Edumacate yourselves"

Dude. Just stop, I'm dying over here.
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You guys have lost it. By it I mean your minds. You are all as dedicated to your science as faithfully as the earth is flat science people are. Dig into that one on YouTube.

For me right now I'm thankful I am retired and picked up a civilian government contract job sitting at a desk all day making more than a CNC machinist with a full education now. The small Spyderco slip joint I carry there to cut fruit is as hard as I use a knife at work these days. So I'm probably using a knife as hard as you guys do. Different ball game on the weekends though.

I'm just happy you guys could teach me something. Thank you.
 
Duane Sanders said:
You guys have lost it. By it I mean your minds. You are all as dedicated to your science as faithfully as the earth is flat science people are. Dig into that one on YouTube.

For me right now I'm thankful I am retired and picked up a civilian government contract job sitting at a desk all day making more than a CNC machinist with a full education now. The small Spyderco slip joint I carry there to cut fruit is as hard as I use a knife at work these days. So I'm probably using a knife as hard as you guys do. Different ball game on the weekends though.

I'm just happy you guys could teach me something. Thank you.
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Outstanding, sir. Please, keep it coming!
 
bodog said:
There's absolutely no way Boris is serious. I think he played us all. When I realized that's what he's doing I started laughing at the ridiculousness of it.

"Science is wrong" "You all are wrong" "Every steel company is wrong" "I am right, therefore Buck is right" " I am the only one who actually uses knives" "No one uses a knife as hard as I do" "Edumacate yourselves"

Dude. Just stop, I'm dying over here.

When he cannot admit that a certain steel is just simply his preference and when he says that everyone else who thinks higher grade steels are crazy and stupid, you know it's BS. :barf:

There are advantages and disadvantages to most steels. Liking certain attributes of a certain steel is fine and dandy, that doesn't mean anyone else is wrong unless they're talking out of their ass. And I believe Duane/Boris is doing just that.

And he's obviously skirting 2 questions/claims. 1) Which steels has he used, and 2) people saying he's Boris left and right.

If I was pretty new to some discussion forum and people kept calling me a name that wasn't me, I think I'd say, at least once, who the f*** is that and why do you keep calling me that name?

He's obviously Boris risen from the dead. I have to hand it to him, he picked up stupid stereotypical southern type grammatical errors to throw off the hounds.
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Kinda difficult to talk to the basic Buck fan, that's outside of the forums that is as the basic models they make sell so well and are well known.

Buck in general is pretty smart as history has shown and they do sell a lot of knives so it's hard to argue with that.

They have their customer base they target, most have never heard of a knife forum or don't even bother with forums at all.
 
shinyedges said:
My god man don't feed the wildlife lol they might think we want them to comeback.
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I guess he didn't see where I beat the hell out of my knives quite often. Like my comment where I was working in a 0 degree freezer for about half an hour and tried to chop through a whole frozen fish and hit the edge directly against a concrete floor with almost as much force as I could reasonably give and my knife barely had any edge deformation. And where I crack through all kinds of BS day in and day out. And I do that with either good low alloy steels heat treated well or high end tough steels heat treated satisfactorily. I would bet 5160 could stand up to it if heat treated right but it would dull pretty quickly compared to a different type of steel that's as tough or tougher, as hard or harder, and with much higher abrasion resistance.

I used to respect where Duane was coming from because his concerns are mine, too. But now after hearing what he's willing to listen to, f*** him.
 
I kinda sympathized with him as well, he says he was military and so was I, but the dude won't listen and his logic is skewed. He thinks were all bill nye the science guy and never use our knives. He's off his medicine.
bodog said:
I guess he didn't see where I beat the hell out of my knives quite often. Like my comment where I was working in a 0 degree freezer for about half an hour and tried to chop through a whole frozen fish and hit the edge directly against a concrete floor with almost as much force as I could reasonably give and my knife barely had any edge deformation. And where I crack through all kinds of BS day in and day out. And I do that with either good low alloy steels heat treated well or high end tough steels heat treated satisfactorily. I would bet 5160 could stand up to it if heat treated right but it would dull pretty quickly compared to a different type of steel that's as tough or tougher with much higher abrasion resistance.

I used to respect where Duane was coming from because his concerns are mine, too. But now after hearing what he's willing to listen to, f*** him.
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shinyedges said:
I kinda sympathized with him as well, he says he was military and so was I, but the dude won't listen and his logic is skewed. He thinks were all bill nye the science guy and never use our knives. He's off his medicine.
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Kinda like the Ford vs Chevy thing..... Can't usually talk to either one... LOL
 
shinyedges said:
Exactly lol
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That or the people who seem to buy cheap tires and have to end up replacing them every year or so instead of buying good ones that will actually last.

Or people that will drive 10 Miles out of their way just to save a $1 when they burned more gas just getting there and back than they saved.

Sometime people's logic doesn't really make a lot of since, but you just can't talk to them. ;)
 
bodog said:
I guess he didn't see where I beat the hell out of my knives quite often. Like my comment where I was working in a 0 degree freezer for about half an hour and tried to chop through a whole frozen fish and hit the edge directly against a concrete floor with almost as much force as I could reasonably give and my knife barely had any edge deformation. And where I crack through all kinds of BS day in and day out. And I do that with either good low alloy steels heat treated well or high end tough steels heat treated satisfactorily. I would bet 5160 could stand up to it if heat treated right but it would dull pretty quickly compared to a different type of steel that's as tough or tougher, as hard or harder, and with much higher abrasion resistance.

I used to respect where Duane was coming from because his concerns are mine, too. But now after hearing what he's willing to listen to, f*** him.
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I seen the pictures of your premium steels that you beat on your back deck into old molding. That was it right? Old moldy base board molding. You experienced a failure quickly on your back deck. I seen the pictures of the chipped out edge. Your obsession is super thin high hardness high toughness blades. You will tire some day and take what you learned. You won't get tough, thin and high hardness, not at least in the same blade.

YES, it is fun to talk about on the Internet. Don't mind me as I sit here and watch you evolve along your great quest.
 
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Duane Sanders said:
I seen the pictures of your premium steels that you beat on your back deck into old molding. That was it right? Old moldy base board molding. You experienced a failure quickly on your back deck. I seen the pictures of the chipped out edge. Your obsession is super thin high hardness high toughness blades. You will tire some day and take what you learned. You won't get tough, thin and high hardness, not at least in the same blade.

YES, it is fun to talk about on the Internet. Don't mind me as I sit here and watch you evolve along your great quest.
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