A 2016 Forum Knife. An apology, and The Crossroads!

Vinifera said:
C'mon Jack you have been coming on very strong in this and other threads. Obviously you want a lambsfoot "forum knife" which you have voiced on this and other threads, but ease up a bit and quit firing on people who might want something else. Sheesh.
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I've said several times that the knife I'd like most personally is this:

Jack Black said:
a New England Whaler, a nice big Sheepsfoot on GEC's 47 frame, long-pull, swedge, rat-tail bolster, ebony covers...:)
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A lot of questions have been asked about the Lambsfoot, (which I do think would be a good forum knife), because many posters haven't used it. I've done my best to answer those questions, as have others, providing photos and links where possible. If that's not good enough, perhaps I should have just ignored the question in the first place, but that would have been condescending. Most posters here seem to have been happy with the discussion, and remained cordial.
 
supratentorial said:
Regarding rub... I think some folks push the blades against each other instead of pulling straight up.
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I dare say that might be the case Jake :thumbup: Not having any single-spring two-blade GEC knives, I can only go on what others have said here. I do love the old Sheffield knives where the blades just nest together perfectly :)
 
what's the secondary blade on that top knife,SupraT? it looks like an electricians type, but it has some interesting facets/grinds/angles. or maybe i've just never seen a "new" electricians knife(tl-29).:) do you know what specifically the second knife for? a kind of general handyman thing? it looks to have some age, yet it does have something of a modern aesthetic about it. (whatever that means). the more i look at that top knife the more i really like it;it almost appears as though the secondary could be a chisel! (paring chisels often have a triangular shape in cross-section, definitely the japanese versions) my last aside also reminds me that i had wondered about peoples thoughts on a blade like that in a higo-no-kami. but maybe that's a little too far out, i duunno. thanks, Neal p.s. just saw the pic of the double clip. ummm...only if they were two radically different types-turkish and sabre, etc.,etc. nice pic's though:thumbup: thanks SupraT
 
Address the knives, not other posters.
 
Jack Black said:
A lot of questions have been asked about the Lambsfoot, (which I do think would be a good forum knife), because many posters haven't used it. I've done my best to answer those questions, as have others, providing photos and links where possible. If that's not good enough, perhaps I should have just ignored the question in the first place, but that would have been condescending. Most posters here seem to have been happy with the discussion, and remained cordial.
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Again Jack, we all know you want a lambsfoot, which perhaps many of the unwashed masses have not used. And yes it does seem to be condescending when you make statements such as "...because most posters haven't used it. I've done my best to answer those questions, as have others..."
 
I'm going to make the generous assumption that you missed my post, which was made only a minute before yours.

This bickering is done or the thread is closed.
 
neal70 said:
what's the secondary blade on that top knife,SupraT? it looks like an electricians type, but it has some interesting facets/grinds/angles or maybe i've just never seen a "new" electricians knife(tl-29).:)
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It's a Remington "radio knife" with an electrician blade. c1920s. The grinds are fairly typical for an old electrician blade. Someone went to town on it with a buffer so the edges are no longer crisp.

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neal70 said:
do you know what specifically the second knife for? a kind of general handyman thing? it looks to have some age, yet it does have something of a modern aesthetic about it. (whatever that means).
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It's also an old radio knife. Robeson c1920s. The other tools are an alligator wrench and a long screwdriver.
 
On the EE, a swedged spear main with a long pull would be my choice.... as for the secondary, there could be a few ideas.... It would be really cool to get a cattle knife. Nobody is making them now and we could add the cool touches that would make it special.
 
Most important thing is that we have a forum knife.
I'm OK if that means we don't get much say in who makes it, or what pattern we get to choose from.
If we do get to vote on pattern and or blade profile I sincerely hope that any winner has over 50% of the vote.

That is all I ask.
 
FLymon said:
Most important thing is that we have a forum knife.
I'm OK if that means we don't get much say in who makes it, or what pattern we get to choose from.
If we do get to vote on pattern and or blade profile I sincerely hope that any winner has over 50% of the vote.
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In terms of manufacturer, our options are obviously less than last year, and it's really good of Charlie to step up again - and Barry and Liam too :thumbup: The design of last year's knife didn't appeal to me much, but I'm glad there was a forum knife for those who did like it :)
 
This bickering is done or the thread is closed.

I hate it when he says that:D

Not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes here buuut didn't we already get sheepsfoots on BF knives ?
Or are they lambsfoots or wharnfeet? sheepcliffs?...or something?
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waynorth said:
While I am not 100% committed, I can feel myself being drawn into helping to bring about just one more Forum Knife.

GEC has informed me they are fine-tuning their schedule, and while incorporating a Forum knife into it, it will be impossible to do such a complicated knife as the Scout!! Sniff . . . . .

We can however do a one-blade or two-blade knife, and possibly bring in a new pattern, ironically, the one that would form the basis of a future scout, a 3 3/4" Equal ender! That is if we wish. Otherwise, we can possibly make it on the #15 frame, or whatever they have in the schedule this year. I suggested a single-spring knife, and Bill said yes he could do that. Maybe we could do an abbreviated scout, with a utility blade at one end (a Radio-Scout? - 0r??). If anyone has an older knife with those blades, please post a pic, or send me one!
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waynorth said:
Thanks for posting that, Philllll!!
It is easier to persuade Bill (and Me!!) to do a traditional knife, if some actually exist in tradition! Bill's not ready to do a Sowbelly yet
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waynorth said:
I hope some year we do a Lambfoot! That blade is more versatile than a sheep foot IMO.

BTW, Bill has a lot of work done on the 3 3/4" EE (future scout). We have an opportunity to have the "Triple P" version, if we choose!
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I was biting my tongue, but with the recent posts, I feel like it's time this be said. Based on the posts above, Charlie is attempting to rally a team and complete another forum knife for us...and even then, he's not 100% committed to this task. To get him 100%, we should heed his suggestions for what he would like to see. He's designed many SFO's that are total hits, so why not give him more control.

He has specifically stated what would make this process a success and what would make it easier on GEC with getting this Forum Knife to production. Utilizing an existing pattern, or one currently being worked on, is one of those steps. GEC doesn't want to do a Sowbelly. Also, it seems the Lambsfoot is being passed over as well so there's no need for the contention on this front.

Charlie has hinted at the 3-3/4" Equal End, maybe an abbreviated Scout, several times...which I think is a great option. As he said, it allows us to get the PPP, and allows GEC to transition that pattern into the full Scout knife that many of us were on board for as well (which is not the Forum Knife option).

While I understand the point of this thread is to voice our opinions on what we would like to see, at some point the ideas have to be funneled through the filter until a final product has remained. Charlie has filtered out some ideas already so let's continue down the road and not drive this into the ditch.

And if I'm wrong for saying this, I'll apologize, edit my post, and continue enjoying the other threads on the forum. Happy Valentines Day!
 
Jsega51 said:
I was biting my tongue, but with the recent posts, I feel like it's time this be said. Based on the posts above, Charlie is attempting to rally a team and complete another forum knife for us...and even then, he's not 100% committed to this task. To get him 100%, we should heed his suggestions for what he would like to see. He's designed many SFO's that are total hits, so why not give him more control.

He has specifically stated what would make this process a success and what would make it easier on GEC with getting this Forum Knife to production. Utilizing an existing pattern, or one currently being worked on, is one of those steps. GEC doesn't want to do a Sowbelly. Also, it seems the Lambsfoot is being passed over as well so there's no need for the contention on this front.

Charlie has hinted at the 3-3/4" Equal End, maybe an abbreviated Scout, several times...which I think is a great option. As he said, it allows us to get the PPP, and allows GEC to transition that pattern into the full Scout knife that many of us were on board for as well (which is not the Forum Knife option).

While I understand the point of this thread is to voice our opinions on what we would like to see, at some point the ideas have to be funneled through the filter until a final product has remained. Charlie has filtered out some ideas already so let's continue down the road and not drive this into the ditch.

And if I'm wrong for saying this, I'll apologize, edit my post, and continue enjoying the other threads on the forum. Happy Valentines Day!
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I think you are right about several points. Charlie can close the topic any time that he wants. As far as I'm concerned, the thread could be closed. People will chat. Not everything said will be productive There are a lot of new folks that lack experience but want to be involved. It's part of the fun. The bulk of my posts are responses to questions. Should I ignore questions?
 
supratentorial said:
I think you are right about several points. Charlie can close the topic any time that he wants. As far as I'm concerned, the thread could be closed. People will chat. Not everything said will be productive There are a lot of new folks that lack experience but want to be involved. It's part of the fun. The bulk of my posts are responses to questions. Should I ignore questions?
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I never stated that the thread should be closed, that people can't throw out ideas nor that questions shouldn't be asked or answered so I don't know what you're referencing. All I was stating was that, this thread is swerving instead of straightening out in terms of where this project is headed. You have an extreme wealth of information and knowledge Jake, I've pointed that out before in other threads.

With regards to this thread, you've done an excellent job of providing pictures, examples and history of knives that we can all appreciate and that could easily be used to create this years Forum Knife and Forum Knives of the future. I fully hope that you continue!
 
So, about that equal end, single spring, long pull, sheepsfoot, and punch all dressed up in some nice cocobolo or ebony?:cool:

I think this would be a really neat knife the more I think about it. Sure a spear blade would look more traditional, but I'm sure there will be some spear versions ran when/if they produce a scout.
 
If we go EE sheep'sfoot would it pretty much be the blade like on the 15 or could it be beefed up like a case 11031? That on a half scout could be cool.
 
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