A 2016 Forum Knife. An apology, and The Crossroads!

Stainless gets my vote, grudgingly :D. If only for the versatility. I'm not sure what GEC uses but maybe a bit upgraded steel or something would be cool, like 440 instead of 420. I think an O1 would be awesome, but that's carbon.

Connor
 
r8shell said:
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This right here is probably why my mind saw that S&M and immediately thought it was a single spring knife. Putting a punch on a 3 5/8" spring by itself doesn't make much sense, as there's a lot of empty space in there. You could put a sheepsfoot opposite of that punch without having to make any other adjustments, so why not just make it a cattle knife?

Knowing that that S&M is two spring, and getting that shot of the well, definitely changes my opinion of the choice for forum knife.
 
Cory Hess said:
This right here is probably why my mind saw that S&M and immediately thought it was a single spring knife. Putting a punch on a 3 5/8" spring by itself doesn't make much sense, as there's a lot of empty space in there. You could put a sheepsfoot opposite of that punch without having to make any other adjustments, so why not just make it a cattle knife?
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I think it's a reasonable assumption :thumbup: I have a KL74 Dutch Army Knife, which has 2 springs, a spear on one and a punch and bottle-opener on the other. It's not a bad combo, but there's STILL a gap in the frame (that depends on the punch to some extent, the EE Carl Schlieper I posted pics of doesn't have a gap because it has a heavy triangular punch).
 
waynorth said:
I was just trying to show an example of a Clip in an EE, Jack. Sorry to mislead!
Ignore the extra blades please!!

This pattern will eventually become a Scout, and a Cattle knife, but not just yet as far as I know!

Here is a first draft of the proposed BF knife. You can see it has a Clip blade, but Bill has given us the option of a Spear blade!!

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With the rounded and lined bolsters, this new pattern is about the same as the TK Cuban/Presidential but scaled down a bit. Those are 4 1/8". I love both of those.... would REALLY love to see a long pull spear with pick bone jigging on this one!



 
stainless, just put in stainless. i have patinated knives already that i love. it would also seem uncommon to simply produce a stainless hj, unless someone's made them of whom i'm unaware(always possible! probably inevitable.). i will buy either way of course:).
thanks, Neal
 
neal70 said:
stainless, just put in stainless. i have patinated knives already that i love. it would also seem uncommon to simply produce a stainless hj, unless someone's made them of whom i'm unaware(always possible! probably inevitable.). i will buy either way of course:).
thanks, Neal
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That Schatt & Morgan I showed is in stainless.
 
Can you good folks enlighten me as to how you typically use tje awl blade on a pattern like this during regular edc carry?
 
I find the awl very handy for those things that might damage the blade .
Poking, making holes in wood or leather,scraping definetly a handy excessory on a pocket knife
 
R8shell : yah i have the three blade equal end from, iirc, the next years line up. they are 420hc, not really my favorite steel. i've read here somewhere that gec was/is looking to phase out their use of the acorn shield as well as using 440c itself. i find 440c sharpens more intuitively for me, if that makes sense(i free hand), and personally i've never cared for bucks 420hc, Paul Bos or no, though my 110 from the early 70's may predate him, i dunno. sorrry sidetracked there. the choice of 1095 would be fine, i simply would slightly less maintenance on what'll be for me an almost daily carry. by the by, i love your pictures of that hj, it's just beautiful, as well as being excellent photography:). almost made me get one honestly. oh yeah, thanks for pointing out my error, i feel even more stupid for literally having one on me when i posted that. lol :foot: :foot: :rolleyes:
thanks, Neal
 
I'm definitely in the stainless camp! I mean lets get real, if they would of had stainless back in the day, there wouldn't be any carbon steel knives!
 
hatchettjack said:
I'm definitely in the stainless camp! I mean lets get real, if they would of had stainless back in the day, there wouldn't be any carbon steel knives!
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:confused: Really? Stainless has been in use since the 19 teens and still the big makers continued to use good old carbon steel. And the maker of the best slip joints made on earth make 90% of their knives in Carbon.
 
Pipeman said:
Really?
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Yes. Really.
Carbon steel has always been popular, but stainless has been used since the 1920's. And properly heat treated stainless has been available in the US since the early 1950's, even earlier in Germany.
 
Well, I will vote for 1095. I don't find that it really needs all that much maintenaince. I have carbon steel knives that I've never done much to and they still get sharp and cut just fine..... a little but of rust and a lot of patina, but that's part of the charm.
 
Knarfeng-did not know that. i'd thought that their use of 420hc dated farther back, learn something new everyday! also how old/long Paul Bos has been doing what he does:). perhaps i should pipe down and let others speak awhile.
thanks, Neal
 
Pipeman said:
:confused: Really? Stainless has been in use since the 19 teens and still the big makers continued to use good old carbon steel. And the maker of the best slip joints made on earth make 90% of their knives in Carbon.
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Yes Really! The early stainless was junk! The heat treats were junk! Today's stainless and heat treating, if available back then, there would be no carbon knives! IMHO
 
I'd rather have carbon than stainless . I know there's good stainless out there . I also don't seem to have a problem spending alot of money on stuff either. I just like carbon steel . I believe certain number of past , present and future knife buyers feel the same .
 
neal70 said:
how old/long Paul Bos has been doing what he does?
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No worries, Neal.
Paul Bos, a nationally known heat-treat authority has been heat-treating since 1956. Before his retirement from Buck Knives in 2010, he served 70% of America's custom knifemakers as well as overseeing all of the heat-treating in Buck Knives factory,
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http://www.buckknives.com/about/the-people-behind-buck/


And meanwhile, back on thread, I am not stating a preference between 1095 or 440C. I'm merely stating that stainless is considered "traditional".
 
hatchettjack said:
Yes Really! The early stainless was junk! The heat treats were junk! Today's stainless and heat treating, if available back then, there would be no carbon knives! IMHO
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Well,IMO they were making stainless butter knives in the teens that were very well heat treated, kind of like the carbon of the period, yet Remington, Schrade, Camillus and Case continued to use mainly carbon.
You like stainless, I like carbon, each to their own but there was good stainless wayyy back when and there was heat treating wayyyy back when.
 
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