A few questions from Chris Reeve

I haven't seen the video...

No, I would never do that. I think the test is silly and demonstrates nothing.

I would be shocked, however, to hear from the legal department.

(this is written by someone who absolutely loves his sebenza, carries and uses it exclusively on a daily basis)
 
CRK Knives are as good or better than any, CRK customer service is second to none. I wouldnt worry about what some isolated idiot does. There seems to be a high percentage of people in internet forums that feel that at any moment they may have to use a knife extremely hard, well beyond what it was designed for. I think its mostly a mall ninga fantasy world
 
I'd definitely be surprised if I heard from somebody's legal department based off of a Youtube video. Possible liable for slander? I guess there could be a case made...
But I'd think that unless the video was so damaging that it was effecting business, that while pursuing legalities over something so trivial may be well within an individual's or a company's rights to do so, but its still immoral.

I think I can see where the language behind this post comes from...and I am in full agreement. Most of these severe abuse video's are somewhat silly. I say somewhat because on one hand: People want to know what something like a high quality, expensive knife can stand up to/abuse it can take.
On the other hand, it is simply ridiculous for people to put merit in tests that push an item well past the specifications of its intended use. (as a side note, CRK knives are so nice, anyone that abuses them doesn't deserve to own em. Buy a knife with less attention to detail in it to abuse!)

I am probably wrong, so please don't shoot the messenger but: If I had to peg it, I'd say that Chris Reeve knives are more popular than they have ever been, and that your customer base is larger than ever. Assuming this is the case (again I could be wrong) and assuming the motivation behind the original post (again I might be totally off the mark here) is due to people abusing CRK knives and then saying defaming things about the quality...perhaps the issue is in CRK marketing? CRK folders have a reputation to be built like a tank. It is natural to assume then that some people will take this to mean that the knife is indestructible, and because it is expensive, should take more abuse than lesser priced/lesser quality knives. CRK's website IMHO could use a little work...maybe CRK need to be marketed more clearly?

Then again, if CRK knives are just limited production run, mostly hand made production knives, run by caring people that don't need or want to market, they are content just making a well built product at the pace and quality level they always have...I'd say who cares about what people post on youtube. If your products are well made, and well received, your corporate image will remain intact. There will always be idiots out there. Take care of your devoted customers and your business will continue to thrive.

Just my two cents...I probably don't know what I am talking about so those opinions above are probably worth exactly what you paid for them. NUTHIN! =)

Best of luck,

-Freq
 
Everyone wants 15 minutes of fame.

Some are willing to misrepresent facts, or conceal facts, in order to gain their 15 minutes of fame.

And some situations, such as the mystery test knife from Poland, wouldn't pass muster under even the most amatuer lab protocol, much less a legal evidence standard.
 
I bought my first Sebenza when I was 18

It took me awhile to save up for it back then with my minimum wage job but since I was determined to have the holy grail of knives I eventually put the money together and had my shiny new Chris Reeve.

Right off the start I wanted to show all my friends how amazing a $300+ knife
was, I'd go out of my way to use it as a can opener, screw driver, pry bar, throw it at random wood boards... pretty rough usage.

Eventually after a year or so I realized I was being really stupid, why abuse an expensive, precision cutting tool just to prove how much it could take?

By that time it had a broken off tip, notched blade and was scratched all to hell but still perfectly functional and solid. I never had a failure with it.

I think people who "test" these knives to the breaking point are just as immature as I was back then.
 
If I am correctly understanding the kernel of post #23 above, some fights may not be worth taking on. It's not clear that the injured party doesn't get further injured, and the fame-seeking fiction-maker become more famous. Life is not always fair. :(
 
I can understand the frustration, however your company has won numerous awards year after year after year. There is a reason for it. =D
 
Not if I bought it, but if I was testing the car yes.

Well, KnifePyro, if I were the owner of the Mercedes/Porsche/BMW dealership and I saw you testing the door of one of my cars by slamming the door "open" to test the hinges,
I would politely ask you to put your head in the doorway and then I would slam the door "closed" on your fat head.

But....that's just me!! :)
 
If I am correctly understanding the kernel of post #23 above, some fights may not be worth taking on. It's not clear that the injured party doesn't get further injured, and the fame-seeking fiction-maker become more famous. Life is not always fair. :(

I agree wholeheartedly.

Many businesses are impacted, sometimes severely so, by a few people spouting non-truth's online.

I do happen to believe though, a good company with a good product will eventually prevail.

-Freq
 
My opinion: Can a knife be used closed? The main thing a folding knife does besides cut is open. If it is going to do this action for the rest of its life why not make it bomb proof? Chris certainly has for the most part, and i think his warning/void of warranty about flicking open his knives is over hyped. If it can open only one way who cares how one does it.
 
Right on!
I like your no-nonsense style.
Do what you think is right, it sure worked well on your knives!
:D
 
After reading all 32 of the above posts, I think it is safe to say that most of us that have commented here are in agreement that Chris Reeve makes one hell of a knife, and that unlike the customer service we've come to expect (or not expect) from big name manufacturers, Chris Reeve cares enough about his customers and his reputation to address issues such as this. Mr. Reeve, thanks for wonderful product, great customer service, and your willingness to address these things. Pleasure meeting you at Blade.
 
If you were to buy a new Porche or Mercedes or BMW, would you deliberately spend extensive time slamming the door OPEN? Would this be a valid test to show how strong the hinges are? Would you video this until the hinges failed and then publish the video on YouTube? And would you be surprised when you heard from the legal department of the manufacturer?

No offense but this seems kind of out of left field. I hadn't seen any videos nor read about any until now. I think you've just drawn more attention to this video by posting your comments.

People do stupid stuff on YouTube all the time and I don't think someone of your stature in the knife world should dignify it with a response. You're a legend and you make some of the best knives around. Let the idiots be idiots.

Edit: I looked on YouTube and all I saw was that same Polish Umnumzaan incident. Is that what you are reffering to?
 
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stupid is as stupid does and I would not dignify them with a law suit

people who buy your knives don't tend to base their opinion on a youtube video

and thanks for making such great tools

cheers Maik
 
FYI:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/06/24/iphone.4.problems/index.html?hpt=Sbin

In an apparent attempt to see how durable the phone is, one man posted a YouTube video of himself dropping the phone on concrete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7-OBoDFeDY



If CRK is really worried about bad youtube press, maybe you should make a Will It Blend? style parody video of what not to do with a knife?

There are idiots everywhere, the only thing you can do is ignore them or help make themselves look even more stupid.

-Freq
 
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FYI:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/06/24/iphone.4.problems/index.html?hpt=Sbin

In an apparent attempt to see how durable the phone is, one man posted a YouTube video of himself dropping the phone on concrete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7-OBoDFeDY



If CRK is really worried about bad youtube press, maybe you should make a Will It Blend? style parody video of what not to do with a knife?

There are idiots everywhere, the only thing you can do is ignore them or help make themselves look even more stupid.

-Freq

There are idiots everywhere, this video shows yet another !!!
 
If you were to buy a new Porche or Mercedes or BMW, would you deliberately spend extensive time slamming the door OPEN? Would this be a valid test to show how strong the hinges are? Would you video this until the hinges failed and then publish the video on YouTube? And would you be surprised when you heard from the legal department of the manufacturer?

I hate to say this Chris. :D

i beg to differ, It's not a fair comparison.
A new Porche or Mercedes or BMW are not built to the standards or made as well as Chris Reeve Knives are. :thumbup:
 
I don't know about you all, but the first thing I do when I buy a new car is take it out and see what it can handle. Here's my current daily driver.

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If CRK is really worried about bad youtube press, maybe you should make a Will It Blend? style parody video of what not to do with a knife?

Oooooo! I'd love to see a knife entered into the "Will it Blend" contest! I'm pretty sure someone would be buying new blades for their blender afterward. :D
 
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