A Kershaw slipped in under the radar - the Kershaw Median!

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The funny thing about it is it doesnt matter what we think in the big picture we are a blip on their sales sheet. Like it or not
 
As a geologist, I can relate. A lot of sound a fury signifying nothing on the geologic timescale. Even less than a blip in the course of human existence. :eek:

Blah, blah, blah, Oh look an asteroid. :eek:

nwmetalbug said:
The funny thing about it is it doesn't matter what we think in the big picture we are a blip on their sales sheet. Like it or not
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PG5768 said:
As a professional geologist, I can relate. A lot of sound a fury signifying nothing on the geologic timescale. Even less than a blip in the course of human existence. :eek:

Blah, blah, blah, Oh look an asteroid. :eek:
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All we are is dust in the wind...
 
Ok... I am done with my rant and will sum it up by saying that I hope everyone has a great weekend. :)
 
Rival1314 said:
You really seem to have a hard on to knock Kershaw for "making a buck" and "lowering their standards"......being an exclusive, do you think perhaps the company that ordered the exclusive knows how their customer base spends their money? Perhaps the last 40 years has shown Kershaw a thing or two about what really sells? Do you honestly feel that the average joe that buys a $20 knife whether its a Kershaw, s&w, or mtech even knows anything about steel composition (or even cares)? This is obviously an entry level offering for the general public (non-knife nuts), being a part of a forum community really excludes you from that subset as you are a dozen times more knowledgeable than they are. And I think that offerings like the Ruby, Camber, Strobe, and the entire ZT line shows KAI is still in the quality manufacturing game. Dont get butt hurt because a company **Gasp** manufactures products that have mass appeal. We get it, this knife isnt for you....perhaps there is a guy (or girl) out there who gets one in their stocking this year and it could be the catalyst for them to become a future knife nut.

And "no matter how you justify it"?? They are a for profit mass manufacturing company, so there is no need to justify anything if sells....just look at all the useless products on the market simply because they sell.....
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Would you make scales out of cardboard and sell them for the same cost as G10? Would your conscience feel good about it? Would you expect to keep your customer base?

It's not just one knife. They have a bunch of 3CR knives, all priced similarly to their better knives, and more than any other 3CR knife.

I'm not arguing they won't make a profit, or that it's not smart business. What I'm saying is I can't respect that choice. That's MY opinion, that I'm free to have. I'm not going to sell my various KAI's off in shame just yet, but I'm not going to support a company who has lost focus on quality to pull a fast one on the ignorant. You may be okay with that, but I'm not. I'm not knocking you for that either.
 
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Don't know if its been stated (TL : DR), but this is a Cabelas exclusive built to their spec. Cabelas' staff made the decisions of what steel, washers, blade shape, etc. from a range of choices provided by KAI. KAI just built to contract spec to satisfy their customer, Cabelas', not to satisfy a bunch of knife industry "experts" here on BFC.
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And, like basically everything sold at Cabelas, it is very overpriced...Come to think of it, the last 3 budget Kershaws I bought (Cryo, Thermite, Cryo II) I first saw at Cabelas (since they got them first), waited a few weeks and bought them from BladeHQ or the river site for about 60% of what Cabelas wanted for the same knives.
 
o4tg said:
Would you make scales out of cardboard and sell them for the same cost as G10? Would your conscience feel good about it? Would you expect to keep your customer base?

It's not just one knife. They have a bunch of 3CR knives, all priced similarly to their better knives, and more than any other 3CR knife.

I'm not arguing they won't make a profit, or that it's not smart business. What I'm saying is I can't respect that choice. That's MY opinion, that I'm free to have. I'm not going to sell my various KAI's off in shame just yet, but I'm not going to support a company who has lost focus on quality to pull a fast one on the ignorant. You may be okay with that, but I'm not. I'm not knocking you for that either.
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interesting perspective, judge a company for the products you wouldnt buy yourself....hope that works for you in the long run.

As for the poor analogy of cardboard scales....I have turned down many jobs from customers who wanted something i didnt want to do. I have also made scales out of materials I personally dont like for customers because they like it, and thats what they ordered. I would hope perspective customers would respect the fact that if im commissioned to make something for a specific customer, and that customer is happy then there is no issue. My point is that people on this thread are making an issue where there doesnt need to be one. Kershaw is growing leaps and bounds over the past several years. They are also increasing there US development of ZT, so it makes sense to also expand in the opposite direction. As for the selling price, thats determined by the retailer. Regarding the similar price points to other 8cr knives...take into account the fact that they have a new design, which likely requires new tooling, testing, and packaging...so the pricepoint seems pretty legit....perhaps if it sells well and they continue to make them it would go down more, but you dont launch a new product like this at a loss....

To the OP, who was actually enthusiastic about a cool find, i apologize if any of this pointless drivel has tarnished the intent. It looks like a cool little knife, while its not ultimately for me as long as you are satisfied with it thats really all that matters.

Everyone else can pull up their pants and stop crapping all over the steel, quality and other perceived issues since im willing to bet none of them have even seen one irl yet to make an actual educated opinion. But most of this doesnt matter because im just a "fanboy" therefore logic, business accumen, and common sense arent allowed.

im out on this thread, and as you can see by the change in my overall status im pretty much done with BF. Threads like this where people just bash on a knife they will never buy is pretty much why. If i want to hear a bunch of whining i'll go to a daycare.
 
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Ive never been to cabelas but as I understand it its as much an experience as a place to shop. All kinds of choices under one roof and stuff to look at. They seem to be doing something right been around a long time. Maybe they know something the haters here dont .

and I also gave up my gold membership because of all the negativity here
 
Rival1314 said:
interesting perspective, judge a company for the products you wouldnt buy yourself....hope that works for you in the long run.

As for the poor analogy of cardboard scales....I have turned down many jobs from customers who wanted something i didnt want to do. I have also made scales out of materials I personally dont like for customers because they like it, and thats what they ordered. I would hope perspective customers would respect the fact that if im commissioned to make something for a specific customer, and that customer is happy then there is no issue. My point is that people on this thread are making an issue where there doesnt need to be one. Kershaw is growing leaps and bounds over the past several years. They are also increasing there US development of ZT, so it makes sense to also expand in the opposite direction. As for the selling price, thats determined by the retailer. Regarding the similar price points to other 8cr knives...take into account the fact that they have a new design, which likely requires new tooling, testing, and packaging...so the pricepoint seems pretty legit....perhaps if it sells well and they continue to make them it would go down more, but you dont launch a new product like this at a loss....

To the OP, who was actually enthusiastic about a cool find, i apologize if any of this pointless drivel has tarnished the intent. It looks like a cool little knife, while its not ultimately for me as long as you are satisfied with it thats really all that matters.

Everyone else can pull up their pants and stop crapping all over the steel, quality and other perceived issues since im willing to bet none of them have even seen one irl yet to make an actual educated opinion. But most of this doesnt matter because im just a "fanboy" therefore logic, business accumen, and common sense arent allowed.

im out on this thread, and as you can see by the change in my overall status im pretty much done with BF. Threads like this where people just bash on a knife they will never buy is pretty much why. If i want to hear a bunch of whining i'll go to a daycare.
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I get your point about derailing the thread so I won't post again. I will say I think it's sad you're turning your back on the forums that made your business because a couple opinions hurt your feelings. It's a rough world on the business front and you're in for a real surprise if you think the criticisms here are that offensive. Mention 3CR, Strider, and various other hot topics in any other blade forum and it's going to get a LOT worse than it will here. These forums are great and I think both you and the forums are at a loss if you truly have such a negative opinion of the place that you can't hang around.

For the record, I do like the design of this knife. If it were in 8CR I would be all over it.
 
Good thing I don't buy Kershaws or ZT's. Pretty sad though that they would use inferior steel to that of Chinese crap knives...no matter what the price.
 
I like the design. Looks like an easy to sharpen big bellied slicer. Perfect for the average blue collar guy.

I agree on the growing negativity here. It's the main reason I rarely visit anymore. Too many keyboard experts that need to find some happiness in their lives.
 
reapinItUP said:
Good thing I don't buy Kershaws or ZT's. Pretty sad though that they would use inferior steel to that of Chinese crap knives...no matter what the price.
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What's wrong with zts? And most of Kershaw? This whole "discussion" started off by some of us saying we wouldn't buy a knife for 3cr.

I guess my point is this thread got derailed so much.
 
There you go again trying to stir up drama by making a pointed attack on something you know nothing about. I appreciate that your ignorance perfectly illustrates my point, and i appreciate your concern for my business. I will b just fine thanks, i wish the best for you too.
 
grownstar said:
So...it's a cool lookin knife, huh?
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It does look neat, and if I didn't have similarly styled Kershaws already I might even try it. Guess since I don't really "need" it, it's hard to go get one, although the price is right for it.

Kinda like to do a real side by side test of one of my 8cr Kershaws vs. this...
 
I would like to see a real world side by side test myself to get an informed opinion rather than something based off steel type as a lot more goes into a blade steel like heat treat and geometry
 
I just wish we could learn to respect each others options a bit more rather than getting so up in arms... I personally don't think Kershaw should be moving into 3Cr, but as I said, I ordered a Median because I liked the look of it and it was cheap... so I must be an idiot anyways... :stupid:
 
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I just wish we could learn to respect each others options a bit more rather than getting so up in arms... I personally don't think Kershaw should be moving into 3Cr, but as I said, I ordered a Median because I liked the look of it and it was cheap... so I must be an idiot anyways... :stupid:
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I too wish they'd use slightly better steel for something like this but, some people (not you) seem to think suddenly all Kershaw/ZT knives are going to somehow get this steel. It just isn't so.

I personally don't think they needed to go lower than 8cr. I think it could still have been an affordable budget knife for the average worker. That said, I still hope it sells well for them.
 
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