A sale thread that went bad .

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Someone left feedback saying i am dishonest, well those a strong words! In my sales thread, for a BWM & SAR-3, that someone was the first to say he would take it. So i asked him if he would cover half of the PP, which i forgot to put in the add, this was around 10:30 pm, and new he was on line, till 11:00 pm. OK so i don't hear back, i PM'ed nim at around 8:30, and asked Yes or no.

So i did not hear back, figureed, i'd pissed him off, and didn't want it. So at 11:00 i sold to someone that had PMed me.

At this point the person that should be mad is Liu Kang, he also wanted it, i said he'd be next in line. Liu Kang, you have my deepest respect, and am sorry i did not honor, my words.

In my ad i did not say first to respond gets it, i did leave it pritty wide open, my fault.

I did sell it to someone i thought could not offord it at other peoples prices, i new my sale price was low, i did it that way because, i wanted someone to get a good deal.

I'm sure i'll get a lot of flack, but i'm human, i make mistakes, i do not live in China, or any other communist country, i can and will sell to who ever i comfirm a sale with. This sale was not comfirmed with the one who called me dishonest.

What ever happens with this thread, i hope the Mods will leave it open, i know i am leaving myself open to criticism, i screwed up in some ways, but did not commit a crime. And hope the guy who gets the knives really enjoys them. Maybe we can all learn from this, i know i did.

Al
 
I might be wrong, but I think this belongs in the GBU rather than the Busse Discussion Forum where the thread was started. Thread moved. :)
 
You should have just ate the Paypal fees and completed the transaction. It was your mistake after all.

I do feel that negative feedback was not warranted in this case though.
 
Sorry for your misunderstanding Al. I respect your openness regarding the transaction, and I hope both you and the other parties find satisfaction.
 
Although I really don't what happened here.I think negative feedback is not right seeing as how there was not a transaction between the two.The dis-gruntled person should of opened a thread in the GB&U
 
5.56 said:
You should have just ate the Paypal fees and completed the transaction. It was your mistake after all.

I do feel that negative feedback was not warranted in this case though.
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I agree with both of these points.
 
The first person was ready to buy and stated his intent to commit to the sale in 7 minutes from the time that thread was posted. It appears that you could have received payment almost immediately and wrapped up the sale, but instead you chose to go to bed rather than getting paid. :confused: Personally, as the Buyer, I'd be not pleased to find that I was denied without being told that I was and seeing the available knives that I stated that I'd buy sold to another when I was ready to pay immediately, especially when the Seller is looking for a quick sale..

Now, it's your thread, your knives, and as the Seller, your rules...but for future consideration, it may be a good idea to be more specific with the terms & conditions when the first "I'll take it" is not what you're looking for.

ETA: IIRC, when a member leaves this site without specifically logging out, that member will appear online here for another 30 minutes or so, even if they are not. Only clicking "log out" will show you as offline immediately.
 
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MORIMOTOM said:
and paypal does not allow their fees to be charged to a buyer.
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This is true, yet it is very common here on BF for sellers to charge the fees to the buyer or demand the gift option, both of which are against Paypal's rules.

I do not.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
and paypal does not allow their fees to be charged to a buyer.
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Neither do credit card companies but gunbroker sellers do it constantly even though it's in violation. Paypal will take action if you do it with an e-bay auction so you have got to take that into consideration when you price a knife.

I'd be upset if it was me who said I'd take it but not get it. I wouldn't post negative feedback though. Misunderstanding is all.
 
Skrapmetal said:
This is true, yet it is very common here on BF for sellers to charge the fees to the buyer or demand the gift option, both of which are against Paypal's rules.

I do not.
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very true.

regardless of what others do, it is always better to abide by the agreed upon rules.
 
Does paypal allow their services to be used for purchase of knives?
all da best,
rats...
 
Ive been asked to add 3% when the ad did not specifically say it. Its not really something I agree with, but I do it. Why not just add that to the price of the knife and its covered up front.
 
As a seller you're free to sell to whoever you want to. While you probably should have waited to hear back from the original "I'll take it" poster, in the end they ended up going to someone who might actually use and appreciate them instead of one of the dealers who woulda just jacked up the price and relisted 'em. So despite some obvious mistakes on your end and pissing a couple of people off, the sale probably ended up more the way you planned anyway.

As for the feedback, KH has no right to leave you negative iTrader feedback on a deal that didn't happen, your fault or not. He can start a GB&U thread, and that should be the extent of his ability to whine. Make a thread in Tech Support with the details of what happened, and see if Spark can do away with it.
 
I would be a bit miffed if I posted an I'll take it, and the response was "I'll check back in the morning" then the knife got sold.

I would not get my panties in a super bunch about it.


But I can say that KnifeHunter is on of the good guys. He has helped a lot of people out on here. Including me!

Some one with as much massively positive feed back as KnifeHunter is not going to back out on a deal. I would have called it a night and gone to bed after sending an email or PM.

Not sure that selling a knife to some one else is necessarily dishonest.

Probably would have been better just to put you on a list of people I would not deal with and vent on here (the GBU forum) rather than leave bad feedback over a deal that fell through.

Just my two cents.
 
ratstuph said:
Does paypal allow their services to be used for purchase of knives?
all da best,
rats...
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Mosey on over to ebay and see if you can find any knives for sale there. (Paypal is the only method of payment allowed on ebay. Whether that has anything to do with the fact that ebay owns paypal could be considered a matter of opinion....)
 
Jaxx said:
Now, it's your thread, your knives, and as the Seller, your rules...but for future consideration, it may be a good idea to be more specific with the terms & conditions when the first "I'll take it" is not what you're looking for.
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I agree with this statement, your sale, you sell to who you want to. You should list that in your future post, but since you are rather new here and had bought 2 knives and sold 1 with 3 positve feedbacks and 28 post should show everyone here you are new and inexperienced on the forum. You made a newbie mistake.

As for KnifeHunter's attitude and leaving negative feedback for a transaction that never happened is not the way to handle the situation. Hopefully he'll be mature about it and delete the itrader feedback. I can see why he was upset, he missed out on a good deal. He should have gave you some advice for future sales and cut you some slack.

Anyway, Welcome to BF. I hope you learned from this experience and enjoy your time here on BF. Take Care, Steven
 
I believe that KH has a bad tasted in his mouth after the emails that were exchanged afterward so I understand the negative feedback. The seller was new and should have sold it to KH, and made a mistake but should have explained the situation better to KH like he did to me after wards. I think it was just bad communications. Live and learn.
 
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