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RemyKaze said:
Disregard the baseball bat idea all these guys are throwing at you unless you have their strength. Otherwise, what would be a solid hit with them would just be something to piss the intruder off with you. You need a level playing field. To me that means a gun, pepper spray, stungun, or knife. A small gun can pack a larger caliber, say a .38 with no hammer that will fit into pockets or anywhere you wanna hide it. Pepper spray and/or stunguns have immediate reactions, so will put you in a position of control faster. If you want to choose a knife instead, choose a lightweight knife that will inflict deep damage quickly and discourage a counterattack. These guys would have you worrying more about the aftereffects of defending yourself and your son than your lives. Someone comes into your house, run. If you can't, take on the role of a mother bear protecting her cub. What happens after should not be in your thoughts when your life is at stake. I hope my perspective has been helpful. I'd also like to add, if I didn't make it clear, that there are many non-lethal weapons that would work far better than a gun or knife. The key is to gain control of the situation quickly, and keep that control, and for a woman, that means having better tools and faster reflexes than a larger, possibly stronger male.
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Just a note, I understand your meaning totally, but ANYONE on adrenalin can wreak some havok with a wooden ball bat. A kid can hit you hard enough to break something, a grown woman can certainly defend herself with a Ball bat. If its a bad enough Mofo that a grown woman with full "Holy Shit a Burglar" adrenaline dump cant hit him hard enough, then I agree a guns the only recourse. Crack heads come to mind.
 
daizee said:
A shotgun has the right ballistics for inside the house, but it's hard to operate a phone and a shotgun at the same time, or wrangle a child.
I tried to clear the house once with my (empty) Mossberg once, as an exercise, and it was too cumbersome in tight quarters.


-Daizee
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I cleared an intruder out of my house once with a (very loaded) Mossberg...I found it more comforting then cumbersome. But like I said, that's MY choice...I am unique, just like everyone is unique. There is NO ''one size fits all'' solution to questions like this.
 
Thrill....Joking?? Humm. I don't know if I really believe that. ;)

What the heck are you suppose to test those things on? A slab of meat or something?
 
MsNaughtyIrish said:
Thrill....Joking?? Humm. I don't know if I really believe that. ;)

What the heck are you suppose to test those things on? A slab of meat or something?
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They really should make a practice cartridge for Tasers, so you can get the hang of hitting your target with it. Hrmmm I might have to manufacture something.
 
MsNaughtyIrish said:
Thrill....Me with a shot gun? Okay...started laughing so hard I might have peed a bit. I would so hit the ceiling or something and not the guy. I may make him deaf though. That could work.
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Yes, you with a shotgun. Anyone and everyone can shoot any gun with proper training and practice.

I will not listen to people who say they can't do something...until they try it.

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This is my 13 year old niece. she is barely 5' tall and weighs well under 100 pounds. That is a .243 rifle, and a pretty damn good group unsupported from 50 yards. She killed a deer with that rifle last year and a deer with a 20G shotgun the year before that.

If her tiny lil self can do it, anyone can.

ETA, actually I aint even sure she IS 5 foot tall yet, She weighs 85 pounds IIRC


EATA- she also wants a BK14 of her own...with blue scales. I am working on it.
 
Thrill....Hey now...never said I "couldn't" use one. Just that it might turn out to be rather funny. Freaking my dad's double barrel was heavier then heck.
 
Knives are good weapons in the hands of those trained to use them as such, and when having the element of surprise. But in my opinion only marginally good emergency weapons when nothing else is available in the hands of the untrained. If a gun is not an option, and these require proper training as well, then I suggest the three-pronged approach of using mace, then a small ball bat, and then getting your son the hell out of the house and calling 911. Or even just mace then grab and run.
 
Naughty, I wasn't kidding about the short axe. Something with a 22" handle. Which would you rather face, a woman with a bat or an axe? What body part would you like to sacrifice to block it with? It has quite the deterrent factor. If an intruder is looking at a woman with an axe, and they are holding anything less than a gun, they're gone. If they are determined enough to try you out, you get your money's worth with one swing.
 
This is a good thread, if only to give someone pause to consider their own self-defense plan(s). Mine includes dogs, 20 ga, and knives. I think I may add a nice hickory axe handle or something similar to my plan. I also may investigate these inexpensive window alarms.

One thing that I believe is important is to be comfortable with whatever weapon you intend to wield. I handle all of my knives daily. I make a point of handling my Remington daily and firing it weekly. I want to know that in a sleepy haze I can properly handle these things.

And my six four-legged furry burglar alarms won't even let a car pull into the driveway without alerting me.
 
tradewater said:
Naughty, I wasn't kidding about the short axe. Something with a 22" handle. Which would you rather face, a woman with a bat or an axe? What body part would you like to sacrifice to block it with? It has quite the deterrent factor. If an intruder is looking at a woman with an axe, and they are holding anything less than a gun, they're gone. If they are determined enough to try you out, you get your money's worth with one swing.
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That is true...or a Hawk. My wolf creek with a 21'' handle would be a ugly weapon..oh wait, thats what a hawk was DESIGNED to be! Imagine that LOL
 
Ok. I haven’t read through the whole thread, so what I’m going to say may have been said before.

A common opinion is that a knife is not a good self-defense weapon, especially if you’re not trained with it. Many will argue that a bat or a hammer will be a much better choice. Of the two I’d go for a hammer if you’re defending yourself indoors.
While I agree that using a knife for self-defense can be very dangerous, I still think that it can actually be great for it if used correctly.

Seeing as you are a woman I’d recommend you to use a small lightweight knife instead of a big and heavy knife. This is because a small knife allows you to move much faster than a heavy knife. This is even more of a benefit for you seeing as you are a woman. I don’t want to sound sexist, but it is a common known fact that women are generally a lot weaker than men. This makes heavy knives harder to use for women. A small knife will also be easier to use indoors.

For you I’d recommend the Spyderco P’kal. It is a small knife which is designed to be used with a reverse edge in grip. While I personally only have had extended training with the common hammer grip, I think the reverse edge in grip used in the p’kal fighting style will be much easier to learn and generally much more effective in extreme close quarters. It is a little expensive, though.

It is of course important to get some training with the knife. This can be done with a friend as a sparring partner or you can sign up for a class.

 
Cols Steel Inferno or Fox Labs 5.3. You don't want to actually get into a melee with an intruder. You want to instantly incapacitate them. From what I understand, if you HAVE to use it in the house, Cold Steel Inferno is the easiest to clean up. And it's gawd-awful pain in a can. There is also the less-potent Tornado system that I got my wife (mine is Ruger rebranded). When you pull the sprayer from its holster it starts screeching a high decible alarm and flashing a strobe toward the guy you are about to pepper spray.

With a baseball bat all you have to do is swing and miss and you are toast.

A good, bright tactical flashlight is good to have too. 4Sevens is what I have. Mine take 2 AA batteries and does 280 lumens.

Me? Springfield Armory XD9 with 17 rounds of Zombie Maxx and my 4sevens light. If I don't have time to get the electronic safe open, then it's me and Becky. Someone is losing a limb.
 
The ball bat thing is a myth. It's too easy to block, dodge or grab. Especially in a close space. What do you aim at with it? Most likely you'll bruise the hell out of somebody.

First choice shotgun. A 20 gauge is fine.

Second choice axe. No such thing as a "minor" axe wound.
 
tradewater said:
The ball bat thing is a myth. It's too easy to block, dodge or grab. Especially in a close space. What do you aim at with it? Most likely you'll bruise the hell out of somebody.

First choice shotgun. A 20 gauge is fine.

Second choice axe. No such thing as a "minor" axe wound.
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Id rather get shot or stabbed then get hit with an axe. Same goes for a bow and arrow if you hit center mass, or hell even an arrow through the arm or leg will make you think twice.
 
Well, start with a good plan.

Anyone that wants to go through their house at night, to clear it of intruders, with a BK9, bat, handgun or shotgun, their tactics suck. I've practiced with self defense for a while, both in and out of the home. I practice with firearms often, and have a few to reckon with, my Mossberg 500, or my pistol, I'm a fair shot, even under stress. I've attended classes on how to clear a house, and with all that, I'm only leaving my bedroom long enough to collect my kids, barricade myself in a room with only one entrance, and call the cops, and wait for them to arrive.

Its been proven, you don't have the element of surprise on your side, and even trained LEO and Military guys, that clear rooms for a living, have had their weapons taken away in a home invasion scenario training. With shotguns being the most easy to take away. Melee weapons second, and handguns last. Its proven.

Start with a good plan, practice it, until you and your family know it, and then, if you ever need it, employ the plan and the practice.

The main goal is to LIVE. You accost someone that has the balls to break into a house that they know is occupied, you are dealing with someone that has already made the decision to kill if need be. Home invasions always run the risk of hostages or death, and they know that, going into it.

Plus, set your alarm clock for 3 am one time, jump out of bed when it goes off, and see how fast you can get to your weapon, kids and cell phone. Its not that easy, and most times, you won't have something as loud as an alarm clock to wake you up. It will be more subtle and quiet, which means you will be moving slower than usual.

Look at your home, who has the bedroom closest to the front door, back door, and which one is going to be the best to hold up in. What furniture can you employ to close the door, and barricade it, and is there a place for cover/concealment.

Don't go out looking for intruders, protect you and your family, call the cops, and wait. Its the best plan to ensure you LIVE through the ordeal.

Oh, and make sure you home owners insurance is paid up.

Moose
 
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