A. Wright & Son questions

They are nice knives, considering what you pay for them in the UK. Fit and finish can be a little hit and miss. As I am in the UK I go to the main shop and handle one before I buy if I can. IF you get a good one they are excellent knives and good value for money. But it is a big IF.
PM me if you want the name of the shop in the UK that I use. I am sure they would look the knife over for you to spot any major flaws before they put it in the mail.
 
I live approx 200 miles away. I purchased several online and when I received them I could not believe the poor quality of these knives.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt and visited the shop on the way to the inlaws.
I shouldn't have bothered, the knives in the shop were just as bad.
Sadly there are not many folks left in Sheffield who seem to know what they are doing. I wouldn't waste my time or money.
 
The Hartshead Barlow is definitely the best of the three. It opens smoothly and it's a tank of a slipjoint. It's quality level is near GEC levels, I'd say.

The Hartshead Barlow isn't one of Wright's knives though. Made by them, but to my design, and my quality specifications. That project is finished now :thumbsup:

You must have received a much better example than I did. :D

Was it lacking in quality John? If so, I'll still gladly replace it, or refund :thumbsup:
 
Was it lacking in quality John?
It's not lacking at all, Jack.
You know it's the most prized knife I own, my only true Safe Queen.
But let's be honest, GEC has set the standards pretty high for construction.
If somebody's going to claim a knife has the F&F of a GEC, then it better be close to perfect.
I know what to expect from an A Wright Lambsfoot, and the Hartshead exceeded those expectations.
But that doesn't make perfect... and that's okay with me. Sorry if I offended you. :(
 
We all perhaps need to remember that many Sheffield knife makers have never re-tooled, never reinvested. Basically, the same workbenches, same files, same hammers, same grindstones etc as 100's of years ago.

So, sure, they definitely don't, well rarely, have the fit n finish of GEC / Case etc...........but you're actually buying character and history. Pure and Simple.

They are working knives for sure, and good friends to keep in your pocket. To start comparing them is perhaps, a wee bit unfair in some ways.

Use 'em and enjoy 'em :thumbsup::)
 
I have two of their "Hartshead Barlows", that I use off and on!! They are great looking, and benefit from Jack Black's diligence, as have some of the other productions he has overseen!! Great looking and good users too!
But the knives I have bought directly from other dealers, are much more "hit or miss" in quality. I'll only buy another if I have a friend look it over first!!
 
Almost seems like they are built specifically for the working person, and not as a collectible.

I think that’s exactly right.

I own a few Wright’s knives, and several of the Guardians knives they made for Jack. The latter are all built and finished better than their “standard” knives (an accomplishment that did not come easy, from my understanding). They’re capable of making collector-quality knives, but I think they’re more inclined to crank out (perfectly useable) working knives for a customer base who aren’t concerned with matching covers or centered blades.

Standard Wright’s Lambsfoot in Ebony:

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Guardians Lambsfoot in Desert Ironwood, made by Wright’s for Jack Black Jack Black :

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A. Wright & Son’s factory in Sheffield:

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It's not lacking at all, Jack.
You know it's the most prized knife I own, my only true Safe Queen.
But let's be honest, GEC has set the standards pretty high for construction.
If somebody's going to claim a knife has the F&F of a GEC, then it better be close to perfect.
I know what to expect from an A Wright Lambsfoot, and the Hartshead exceeded those expectations.
But that doesn't make perfect... and that's okay with me. Sorry if I offended you. :(

That isn't a claim I've ever made John. The Hartshead Barlow is a 100% hand-made knife, made using very traditional Sheffield methods and materials. I'd hope that it's quality isn't too sloppy. I'm not offended, but very surprised by your response to what Norcaldude Norcaldude said. Maybe it's time to get it out of the safe, it was designed to be used :thumbsup:
 
If you look at all my posts on the matter, you'll see my true feelings about the knives.
If you just look at one reply made, then you will have an incomplete picture and make assumptions.
When somebody asks about F&F, I believe being truthful and accurate sets the proper expectations for the buyer.
With that, I am leaving this thread alone and wish you all well.
 
I have three and I have to echo what has been said above. Good working knives, priced low enough that you don't feel like you shouldn't use them.
The two wood handled knives I sanded a bit and the big lambsfoot I filed just a bit of the kick to get the blade to sit lower.
Because they aren't high priced and are unlikely to go up in value like many GECs do, I'm ok with modding them a little like that.

It would be nice if they were a bit smoother in their action, when new, but they do break in a bit with use. (though even now the two wood handled knives are a bit gritty opening)
All three are pretty stout when opening, the clip point barlow especially so.

The Hartshead Barlow is definitely the best of the three. It opens smoothly and it's a tank of a slipjoint. It's quality level is near GEC levels, I'd say.
The other two are below GEC quality level. I'd say they are similar to Case in quality level, but have a more handmade quality to them, which I like.

As for where they are available, I don't really know. I got two of mine from sellers here and one from ebay.

You must have received a much better example than I did. :D

If you look at all my posts on the matter, you'll see my true feelings about the knives.
If you just look at one reply made, then you will have an incomplete picture and make assumptions.
When somebody asks about F&F, I believe being truthful and accurate sets the proper expectations for the buyer.
With that, I am leaving this thread alone and wish you all well.

Your prior posts in relation to the knife are the reason for my surprise John :( I was responding to that post, as I have your other posts on the knife. I was genuinely surprised by your comment, and my offer to make it right, if you are unhappy with the knife at all, was made in good faith :thumbsup:

Just to clarify, the Hartshead Barlow was a not-for-profit SFO made last year. As I said above, it is not one of Wright's knives, not available from them, not available from anyone else (including me), and while I can understand the reason, it's a shame it had to come up in a thread where someone is seeking to buy an A. Wright & Son knife.
 
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All the Wright knives I've had have either 'needed work' to make them acceptable or had to be returned as totally unacceptable- Bent (krinked;)) blade on a single blade... Liners have been above the scales and you need to sand or file them flush. Can't say I find this thrilling. Spring ends are often cut off very crudely. A horn handled knife has shrunk back badly and this is disappointing, points to low quality horn. The edges are not very impressive either but you can get them there certainly, an Ettrick I got last winter initially impressed me, I like the bizarre pattern but this soured when the tip curled (didn't break off) when I was scoring chestnuts, does not suggest quality steel.

Well, yes they are relatively inexpensive but if you add International delivery (to the EU) and potential difficulties in returning a knife then you must factor that in too. There are plenty of inexpensive simple knives that are not quality quagmires though. I'd like to like them but they do not inspire confidence and I think I'd rather buy other knives. Many other people like them so that has to be acknowledged too, experiences vary. Worth a try but low expectations are needed.
 
I’ve been absent while dealing with my wife’s medical condition. She’s progressing in the right direction. Reading the thread, compelled me to add my 2c, before I pop back out. I had no proper understanding of a Lamb Foot knife or the magnificent history of Sheffield cutlery. It’s quite a task for a novice like me, to research. Jack has provided a treasure trove of history in the Guardians thread. Reading the Lamb Foot directory on page one will provide the OP with an abundance of useful information. It will help you to navigate your way to a fine Lamb Foot, because you’ll know what to look for. Feel free to PM any Regular(rather than post) for any question.

A Lamb Foot knife is a fantastic tool. Hard workers and wonderful companions. I have a couple that are over a century young. Good luck to you.

JB SFO Hartshead Barlow
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I have a couple of them that I bought in the past year or so, and they have been nicely assembled and finished. They are fully functional as a good "working knife". Both of mine are the lambsfoot blade, one is a sort of swayback, and the other is a "normal" handle.
Common to both of them is a stiff, slightly rough opening action. Not a nail breaker, but definitely robust. I imagine with oiling and lots of use, they would smooth up quite a bit.
I like them... and have carried them.
I would call them the British version of the Case Sodbuster... at a slightly lower fit/finish quality level.
I may be able to help you, i have one that arrived as a nail breaker. I did some research and found a good suggestion. Get yourself some de-greaser, i bought some from a local auto supplier, it cost me about $3 US. Apply some into the joint, let it sit, stand the knife up for about 1/2 an hour, rinse under warm water with some detergent, dry it and do it again. Oil the joint, stand the knife up again and let sit for 1 hour. Then open and shut the blade a few times and see if this helps. If it does not, re do it, i did it a couple of times and made a big difference, still a bit stiff, but not a nail breaker.:thumbsup:
 
This knife ("Big-un") illustrates one of the points raised above - Fit & Finish!!! There is virtually NO kick at the tang. It has been filed all the way down by the cutler at A.Wright to sink the tip of the blade into the well. As a result, the spring is sunken into the frame about a 1/16 of an inch - annoying. The knife as a whole is solid and useful. This isn't a complaint about Sheffield knives - just an example of what is coming from A.Wright these days. This knife came directly from A.Wright - not through Jack Black Jack Black .

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I would like to thank Tyson A Wright for starting this thread i have found it informative and interesting. One thing that seems to be a common thought is the hit and miss quality of these knives. But i must give credit where credit is due, i have 2 knives that were bonus gifts for spending over a certain amount from a supplier. I did not know what i was going to get, but received 2 barlow clip point knives. I have no complaints with either knife, if i was in a shop and was able to handle them would have had no hesitation in purchasing. I also have a few others that i ordered and have no complaints with, but it can be hit and miss. I will post a pic of my 2 bonus knives, they are the top 2, and a photo of another purchase that i am very happy with. Just do not tell Jack about the second photo, i may be kept in after school.:eek::D:D:D
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Never understood their 'crank them out' approach particularly for something the mass population over here won't/don't buy

Pocket knives aren't an edc thing over here by any means these days and if they are carried it's more likley a SAK or a multitool

With a bit more attention to detail, better fit and finish and dare I say it a few more designs and decent materal (scales in particular) all they'd need is a retro marketing style and they would sell

personally I hunt down sheffield folders from the early 1900's - not quite the golden age but still made right and with care
 
My lambsfoot from A Wright is coming apart at the pivot.

The Ettricks that I have on the other hand are very well built if not a little rough around the edges. I carry and use them often, I find them to be quite useful.
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It was extremely exciting to see Jack have tremendous input to help with the such Knives as the Hartshead Barlow and that great Knife the Lambsfoot.
Jack had great influence on the knives he helped A.Wrights produce and the difference in Quality was immediately obvious - and these knives that have some of our Jacks DNA are very good Knives.
When talking to Jack the loss you see he feels deeply from the modern times taking over and changing the once Almighty Sheffield to yet another Industrial Town / City to be replaced by the overseas manufacturing, seeing Jack and hearing the difference in what was Sheffield and what now is really hits home as to why we are seeing the change of a well known Sheffield Cutler name such as A.Wright that made very good Knives to the same name, but different management of course producing the quality of today..
I saw this myself ( and felt it deeply )when I was privileged to spend the day with Jack touring Sheffield and being shown such indepth true Sheffield from such a great and knowledgeable guy.

I think it's important when talking about A.Wright knives to be very specific of the era of the knife as there are such Special Factory Orders such as the ones that Jack had massive influence in the making - that are fantastic Knives.

A.Wright has simply joined ranks with Joseph Rodgers, Taylors Eye Witness etc, all who made some of the most outstanding knives, but from what I have seen from the two later Cutler Firms names, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of picking one up to even look at it with the prospective of buying the Knife, this however would change massively if it were the True Knives from the era of when all these Cutler firms mentioned made incredible knives - I would trample over bodies to get to those Knives in a Heartbeat.:D

Speaking to very well educated Knife experts like Jack, Charlie- The older Knives needed the Iron Thumbnail to open these Knives- it seemed that this was a very common thing in the day, we of course now dont experience this and most of us dont have the nails to be able to match those old Pulls, and modern manufacturers are onto the fact that a very hard pull Knife wont be a good seller these day.

So, Old Sheffield Knives are some of the best in the World, the people who made them joined others from the other great Industrial Knife making City - Solingen to immigrate to the USA, this was the start of American made Knives - which we know to also to be some of the Worlds best, only because of the influence from Solingen and Sheffield/England.
So to see what has happened to the Sheffield Greats is sad - it's very sad, the names stamped into the Tang such as A. Wright, Joseph Rodgers, Taylor Eye Witness does not have the Soul that their earlier Knives have.
I know one thing - if Jack had permanent influence inside of the A.Wright Cutlery shop - that old Soul would come back from the past and you would have such Knives like the great Hartshead Barlow, and the Lambsfoots that Jack has also influenced.

I also have seen Jack get extremely frustrated with the modern times of the way these business's are being managed - because simply of what could be.

I personally want to thank Jack so much for the person he is, the amazing influence he has had on all of us, and also the influence that Jack has had on Cutlery Firms where now we actually hold a true Sheffield Knife.
 
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