Ahhh crap I have lyme

I have been having alot of joint pain..and last summer I had a tick bite...is it true that you can go for that long without knowing that you have lyme desease?
 
Yes it is true. Have you had anyother symptoms other than joint pain, you aint no spring chicken anymore;)

You should get checked out anyway bro.
 
nate3993 said:
let me tell you though...some people it takes years to show up, other it's right away..there's a doctor i know that's writing a book, and there's a movie that's coming out soon that was accepted into sundance...my mom had it for 20 years we think, and she just found out recently...what's weird is that her and mine's showed up around the same time...it took me 22 years of my life before it popped up...i dont care what ANY doctor says, YOU CAN GET LYME FROM YOUR MOTHER'S BREASTMILK...im not the only person wo's contacted it that way
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Actually, I have heard it is sexually transmitable. I don't know it's true. If you have it, stay away from your spouse assuming you can even do anything at all.
 
gunknifenut said:
I have been having alot of joint pain..and last summer I had a tick bite...is it true that you can go for that long without knowing that you have lyme desease?
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GET CHECKED! plus let me tell you, unless you have it strong, a normal test lab at your dr.'s office isn't necessarily gonna catch it...here's the thing though...lyme disease is clinical...but do dr.'s really care, no unfortunately...even though tests are only suppose to BACK UP your symptoms dr.'s still just go by test, but that's not what should be done...know your disease...that's one of the best things you can do. eat healthy, get as much sleep as you need, no alcohol, I know it sucks, and do your best to live day by day...that's what us lymies do it
 
Silverdagger said:
Actually, I have heard it is sexually transmitable. I don't know it's true. If you have it, stay away from your spouse assuming you can even do anything at all.
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i'm not married...i already have it...im positive i got it from my mom...she thinks she got it hiking..nothing's certain how she contracted it, but what's certain is that we both have it, and it sucks
 
nate3993 said:
god, thats terrible...lyme is so much more common than people think....it's just that the CDC and many doctors refude to believe that there's such thing as chronic lyme, and most doctors don't know much about it anyways...when i first told my doctor I thought i had lyme he was a real ass...i was explaining my symtoms to him and in the middle of me talking he justed walked out...he then came in with some bs papers saying Lyme tests SHOULDN'T be ordered, and that how if you have a test that says negative, then it's negative and if you have a test that's positive that it's a false positive.????????? that's crazy...also lyme is a CLINICAL disease and tests are done to just back up the symptoms....it's a horrible disease...it mimics many other diseases...it suks, plain and simple and I jope that the movie makes it to many theatres so people can see the seriousness of chronic lyme...IT EXISTS!
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Having done a fair bit of research on Lyme, I think this is true, unfortunately. There are a lot of people who suffer from Lyme-like symptoms who don't test positive on the standard Western Blot test. However, there are other tests apparently that do suggest evidence of Lyme in many of these cases. Some of these tests are still controversial in the medical community. So too is long-term treatment of Lyme. Few doctors will treat Lyme in the long-term, and insurance companies can tend to refuse claims about so-called "chronic Lyme".

Case in point:

One Lyme specialist even ran into legal troubles for providing long-term care in North Carolina.

The North Carolina Medical Board suspended Dr. Joseph Jemsek’s medical license for one year last month. The board said Jemsek, who has about 400 Lyme patients nationwide, including California, strayed too far from standard treatment methods, and did not properly inform patients his treatment was considered unorthodox.

Jemsek can continue to practice medicine during the year, as the suspension resembles a probationary period.
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Source: http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=63155

I have a friend who saw Jemsek for Lyme after seeing a host of other specialists for her symptoms; he is the only one who has been able to help give her some sense of normalcy and relief. Her suspicion is that the insurance industry helped put pressure on the North Carolina medical board in issuing this suspension. No idea if this is true or not. Believe me though, his patients know his treatments are somewhat unorthodox; he does not need to tell them. These folks usually find him (and a few other "Lyme specialists") after exhausting just about every conventional treatment under the sun. Just a little reading on any Lyme discussion board will tell you as much.

If you have any symptoms of Lyme, get tested and get it treated right away. Prompt treatment knocks it out from everything I've read.
 
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gunknifenut said:
I have been having alot of joint pain..and last summer I had a tick bite...is it true that you can go for that long without knowing that you have lyme desease?
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Lyme can go undetected. However, joint pain could be caused by any number of things IMO.

Disclaimer: I'm not a physician. I just stayed in Holiday Inn Express once. ;)
 
nate3993 said:
i'm not married...i already have it...im positive i got it from my mom...she thinks she got it hiking..nothing's certain how she contracted it, but what's certain is that we both have it, and it sucks
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How old are you and at what age did the symptoms arive?
 
Guyon said:
Having done a fair bit of research on Lyme, I think this is true, unfortunately. There are a lot of people who suffer from Lyme-like symptoms who don't test positive on the standard Western Blot test. However, there are other tests apparently that do suggest evidence of Lyme in many of these cases. Some of these tests are still controversial in the medical community. So too is long-term treatment of Lyme. Few doctors will treat Lyme in the long-term, and insurance companies can tend to refuse claims about so-called "chronic Lyme".

Case in point:



Source: http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=63155

I have a friend who saw Jemsek for Lyme after seeing a host of other specialists for her symptoms; he is the only one who has been able to help give her some sense of normalcy and relief. Her suspicion is that the insurance industry helped put pressure on the North Carolina medical board in issuing this suspension. No idea if this is true or not. Believe me though, his patients know his treatments are somewhat unorthodox; he does not need to tell them. These folks usually find him (and a few other "Lyme specialists") after exhausting just about every conventional treatment under the sun. Just a little reading on any Lyme discussion board will tell you as much.

If you have any symptoms of Lyme, get tested and get it treated right away. Prompt treatment knocks it out from everything I've read.
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thanks for the good input...i wonder though if prompt treatment really gets rid of it...i've read that you never really can get rid of it...it is a virus...my uncle was bitten by a tick, saw the rash, and got antibiotics and seemed to be fine for a year, but now he's having some symptoms agian...that's one thing about lyme that i'm not too sure about
 
nate3993 said:
thanks for the good input...i wonder though if prompt treatment really gets rid of it...i've read that you never really can get rid of it...it is a virus...my uncle was bitten by a tick, saw the rash, and got antibiotics and seemed to be fine for a year, but now he's having some symptoms agian...that's one thing about lyme that i'm not too sure about
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I'm no virulogist. My suspicion is that, statistically speaking, prompt treatment does the trick. However, there are exceptions to every pattern, no? I do feel for folks who have continued to experience symptoms after initial treatment, but I have no idea how common or uncommon this phenomenon is.

I don't want to be an alarmist for benchmadebob here. However, I do think he should see a doctor who takes treatment seriously and who aggressively attacks the problem with antibiotics.
 
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Guyon said:
I'm no virulogist. My suspicion is that, statistically speaking, prompt treatment does the trick. However, there are exceptions to every pattern, no? I do feel for folks who have continued to experience symptoms after initial treatment, but I have no idea how common or uncommon this phenomenon is.

I don't want to be an alarmist for benchmadebob here. However, I do think he should see a doctor who takes treatment seriously and who aggressively attacks the virus with antibiotics.
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i agree, there's exceptions to every pattern
 
benchmadebob said:
I Went to the doc and as soon as he looked at it hes like you have lyme. And i was like no $h!t. Im on antibiotics something called techtro something. He said it should be cleared up in 2 weeks. And im going on vacation in the next two weeks. So homany of you guys have had lyme
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Wow! Man I'm sorry to hear this, Bob. I'm glad you caught it early. Praying for a complete and speedy recovery.

-- FLIX
 
Thanks again guy i Have a question though. They didnt do any any blood work and my sister made a big fuss about that because ticks that carry lyme can also carry other thing besides lyme that can KILL so i might get blood work done but do you think its worth it?
 
benchmadebob said:
Thanks again guy i Have a question though. They didnt do any any blood work and my sister made a big fuss about that because ticks that carry lyme can also carry other thing besides lyme that can KILL so i might get blood work done but do you think its worth it?
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there's lyme and other co-infections...babesia being one of them...get all the tests you can, as long as you can afford it
 
I have lyme disease.

I does suck bigtime, especially if you don't get on it early, preferably with doxycyclene. I finally convinced a doctor to treat me, but it was nine months later.

I pulled the tick off me in August of 2005, and it wrecked my career, and set me back financially to the point of having to reduce my lifestyle in a big way. My knees are killing me right now.

Do NOT take this lightly. If a doc won't treat you, take your dog to a vet, tell him you think it has Lyme, and get doxy from the vet, if you have to.

The contoversey between the CDC, insurance companies, and the AMA is over the top, so you'll need to take control of your treatment. Stay on the doxy for at least 30 days if caught early. Otherwise, you might consider 3 months, or as I did, a full year.

Good luck!
 
farmboy said:
I have lyme disease.

I does suck bigtime, especially if you don't get on it early, preferably with doxycyclene. I finally convinced a doctor to treat me, but it was nine months later.

I pulled the tick off me in August of 2005, and it wrecked my career, and set me back financially to the point of having to reduce my lifestyle in a big way. My knees are killing me right now.

Do NOT take this lightly. If a doc won't treat you, take your dog to a vet, tell him you think it has Lyme, and get doxy from the vet, if you have to.

The contoversey between the CDC, insurance companies, and the AMA is over the top, so you'll need to take control of your treatment. Stay on the doxy for at least 30 days if caught early. Otherwise, you might consider 3 months, or as I did, a full year.

Good luck!
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definetly...thank god my dad's a doc...i don't know i'd do without him
 
Benchmadebob, I hope you have a full and speedy recovery. Take good care of yourself brother, and be a good advocate for yourself at the doctors.

nate3993 said:
thanks for the good input...i wonder though if prompt treatment really gets rid of it...i've read that you never really can get rid of it...it is a virus...
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I believe that you are mistaken in stating that Lyme disease is caused by a virus. All the research so far shows that it is caused by a spirochetal bacteria: that is why antibiotics are usually effective in treating it. Long term symptoms may be caused by damage that was incurred during the initial infection period.

However, it might be possible that the the ticks that are carrying this bacteria are also carrying some undiagnosed virus. The antibiotics would be inneffective in treating said virus, and possibly suppress the immune system allowing the virus to thrive.

I hate bugs, and the crappy things they carry. I caught viral encephalitis from a skeeter, and my son got a staph infection from a spider bite. Aargggg....
 
stevomiller said:
Benchmadebob, I hope you have a full and speedy recovery. Take good care of yourself brother, and be a good advocate for yourself at the doctors.



I believe that you are mistaken in stating that Lyme disease is caused by a virus. All the research so far shows that it is caused by a spirochetal bacteria: that is why antibiotics are usually effective in treating it. Long term symptoms may be caused by damage that was incurred during the initial infection period.

However, it might be possible that the the ticks that are carrying this bacteria are also carrying some undiagnosed virus. The antibiotics would be inneffective in treating said virus, and possibly suppress the immune system allowing the virus to thrive.

I hate bugs, and the crappy things they carry. I caught viral encephalitis from a skeeter, and my son got a staph infection from a spider bite. Aargggg....
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correct...i had mixed up some info...I have read though that for the people that didn't catch it soon, like my mom and I, we'll probably never be fully cured...the spirocetes are intelligent...they'll hid in places of your body that regular old doxycycline can't get to...it sounds made up, but its not
 
Nate, I can't argue with that. Not many things will walk towards the light easily, not even spirochetes. And even if you kill all the bugs, it doesn't mean that you won't have long term symptoms/effects. The disease can cause irrevocable damage.

Farmboy gives good advice. You really have to take full control of your medical care if you want the best out come. And vet grade meds are just as good as the ones marked for human consumption as they generally come off of the same production lines. Best tho to just get another doctor so that you can have appropriate follow up care. The bug killers are just the beginning.
 
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