Ahhh crap I have lyme

[DOC-CANADA]

There's also another consideration. There's no way to know if you became reinfected by another tick bite.

Doc

 

[nate3993]

There's also another consideration. There's no way to know if you became reinfected by another tick bite.

Doc

I take it you know of canlyme, right? The Canadian lyme Disease foundation. The doc I know whose writing the book on lyme knows Jim Wilson whose the head of canlyme...there's a lot of lyme in Canada...i know im just repeating myself, but it's terrible

 

[nate3993]

I Went to the doc and as soon as he looked at it hes like you have lyme. And i was like no $h!t. Im on antibiotics something called techtro something. He said it should be cleared up in 2 weeks. And im going on vacation in the next two weeks. So homany of you guys have had lyme

tetro's what my mom first had...she had an iv

 

[Foilist]

I had it about a month ago. Suddenly, I felt like I had a really bad flu but since I live in a heavy Lyme area, I knew it for what it was right away. The docotrs around here don't even bother to test for it anymore; they just assume Lyme this time of the year. 21 days of antibiotics, but I felt better after about three doses. What I really hate is how I never saw the tick or the bite.

 

[Guyon]

I believe that you are mistaken in stating that Lyme disease is caused by a virus. All the research so far shows that it is caused by a spirochetal bacteria: that is why antibiotics are usually effective in treating it. Long term symptoms may be caused by damage that was incurred during the initial infection period.

However, it might be possible that the the ticks that are carrying this bacteria are also carrying some undiagnosed virus. The antibiotics would be inneffective in treating said virus, and possibly suppress the immune system allowing the virus to thrive.

Absolutely true, and my mistake to mention a virus above.

I did so because of nate3993's post and because of an affiliated article on Chronic Lyme I read recently at the CCID. Found it again...

http://www.ccid.org/stealth/clinical/svandlyme.htm

 

[wintermute]

Bob,

You live right near the Lyme disease epicenter - Lyme, CT!

Glad your doc was willing to acknowledge that it was Lyme and treat you properly. The two antibiotics that can be prescribed for it are doxycyline and tetracycline (y'all might remember that as the antibiotics that stopped giving to children because it permanently stained their teeth). The stuff's not pleasant to take and is hell on your stomach.

I'm guessing you have a follow-up w/ your doc in two weeks. Ask him at that time if it might be a good idea for another week or two of meds. The reason why they didn't run any tests is that it takes a month or two for lyme titers to show - you might even have the symptoms, and still a blood test won't detect it. Make sure you get follow-up blood tests in one month and two months to be sure.

I found a deer tick on me last October. Luckily I got to a doc w/in 72 hours of being bit. Also, luckily he's a Doctor of Osteopathic medicine. when I first visited him - I switched to a referal based insurance plan and needed a family doctor near by - I was thinking quack. But, although he's overly cautious, it helps because he's extremely thorough, and not quick to rule things out. It definitely helped with that tick bite.

Glad to see you're getting the right treatment.

 

[wintermute]

I pulled the tick off me in August of 2005, and it wrecked my career, and set me back financially to the point of having to reduce my lifestyle in a big way.

Farmboy, I know someone who went through a similar nightmare to yours. He didn't know it was lyme disease until he had severe joint issues. He owned half of a business. Had to have his partner buy him out and he was out of commission for a couple of years. He finally is healthy again (there's light at the end of the tunnel) and has a new fledgling business.

 

[nate3993]

I had it about a month ago. Suddenly, I felt like I had a really bad flu but since I live in a heavy Lyme area, I knew it for what it was right away. The docotrs around here don't even bother to test for it anymore; they just assume Lyme this time of the year. 21 days of antibiotics, but I felt better after about three doses. What I really hate is how I never saw the tick or the bite.

that's just the thing, most people don't see it

 

[nate3993]

Farmboy, I know someone who went through a similar nightmare to yours. He didn't know it was lyme disease until he had severe joint issues. He owned half of a business. Had to have his partner buy him out and he was out of commission for a couple of years. He finally is healthy again (there's light at the end of the tunnel) and has a new fledgling business.

there are so many horror stories I've heard. To start from the bottom people lose their pets. People lose their jobs, become homeless, die in the streets because their Dr.'s don't want to look outisde the box and Insurance companies aren't much help. The movie I hope explains this.

You can check out the movie at http://www.openeyepictures.com/underourskin/

 

[nate3993]

I had forgotten about this. It's taken from the Lyme Film Website.

'Yet Lyme disease is one of the most misunderstood and controversial illnesses of our time. Difficult to test accurately, tens of thousands of people go undiagnosed—or misdiagnosed with such conditions as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, autism, MS and ALS. The Centers for Disease Control admits that more than 200,000 people may acquire Lyme disease each year, a number greater than AIDS, West Nile Virus, and Avian Flu combined. And yet, the medical establishment—with profound influence from the insurance industry—has stated that the disease is easily detectable and treatable, and that “chronic Lyme” is some other unrecognized syndrome or a completely psychosomatic disorder.'

It's just appalling. It truly is.

 

[wintermute]

I had forgotten about this. It's taken from the Lyme Film Website.

'Yet Lyme disease is one of the most misunderstood and controversial illnesses of our time. Difficult to test accurately, tens of thousands of people go undiagnosed—or misdiagnosed with such conditions as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, autism, MS and ALS. The Centers for Disease Control admits that more than 200,000 people may acquire Lyme disease each year, a number greater than AIDS, West Nile Virus, and Avian Flu combined. And yet, the medical establishment—with profound influence from the insurance industry—has stated that the disease is easily detectable and treatable, and that “chronic Lyme” is some other unrecognized syndrome or a completely psychosomatic disorder.'

It's just appalling. It truly is.

Know of any good lobbying groups we can support - might be a good investment for us W&SS people.

 

[nate3993]

Yep, 'Turn The Corner Foundation'. The makers of the film. Here's the link. I'm gonna donate. http://www.openeyepictures.com/underourskin/uos_donate.html

 

[akennedy73]

Know of any good lobbying groups we can support - might be a good investment for us W&SS people.

that's a great question - i'd put some money behind the cause. i do get the feeling that the medical establishment's attitude toward lyme is going to change in the next few years. there's too many people getting sick for too long now - it's starting to filter into the mainstream media now.

i carry doxycycline in my FAK - i don't advocate self-diagnosis or self-treatment for serious diseases with serious drugs but i also am not going to waste 24 or 48 or 72 hours to get permission from the medical authorities to take antibiotics to kill a possible infection.

People forget or don't know that Lyme is a brain disease:

"Meanwhile, within weeks of entering the body, the spirochete, a bacterium that resembles the organism that causes syphilis, can invade the brain and spinal cord. At first, patients may develop meningitis, encephalitis or problems like pain or loss of sensation stemming from an attack on the nerves that emanate from the brain or spinal cord. But as with syphilis, months or years may pass before the late signs of a neurological infection appear.

Once inside the central nervous system, the organism can wreak all kinds of havoc, from memory problems, moodiness and depression to hallucinations, panic attacks, paranoia, manic depression, seizures and even dementia. Memory problems are the most common sign of a brain infection. When the organism invades spinal nerves, patients may develop numbness and tingling in fingers and toes and pain radiating to the front of the body.

In rare cases, the spirochete may mount an attack on the protective sheath of nerves, resulting in spastic muscle weakness in the extremities that resembles multiple sclerosis, said Dr. Allen C. Steere of Tufts-New England Medical Center in Boston. Dr. Steere first recognized Lyme disease as a distinct disorder in 1975 and soon realized that it could cause neurological problems."

 

[nate3993]

that's a great question - i'd put some money behind the cause. i do get the feeling that the medical establishment's attitude toward lyme is going to change in the next few years. there's too many people getting sick for too long now - it's starting to filter into the mainstream media now.

i carry doxycycline in my FAK - i don't advocate self-diagnosis or self-treatment for serious diseases with serious drugs but i also am not going to waste 24 or 48 or 72 hours to get permission from the medical authorities to take antibiotics to kill a possible infection.

People forget or don't know that Lyme is a brain disease:

"Meanwhile, within weeks of entering the body, the spirochete, a bacterium that resembles the organism that causes syphilis, can invade the brain and spinal cord. At first, patients may develop meningitis, encephalitis or problems like pain or loss of sensation stemming from an attack on the nerves that emanate from the brain or spinal cord. But as with syphilis, months or years may pass before the late signs of a neurological infection appear.

Once inside the central nervous system, the organism can wreak all kinds of havoc, from memory problems, moodiness and depression to hallucinations, panic attacks, paranoia, manic depression, seizures and even dementia. Memory problems are the most common sign of a brain infection. When the organism invades spinal nerves, patients may develop numbness and tingling in fingers and toes and pain radiating to the front of the body.

In rare cases, the spirochete may mount an attack on the protective sheath of nerves, resulting in spastic muscle weakness in the extremities that resembles multiple sclerosis, said Dr. Allen C. Steere of Tufts-New England Medical Center in Boston. Dr. Steere first recognized Lyme disease as a distinct disorder in 1975 and soon realized that it could cause neurological problems."

Absolutely ...Support the Lyme film. Yes, there was a story on Good Morining America about this lady with Lyme. Watch the trailer for the Lyme film, it's astounding. There are more cases, as I posted before, than Aids, West Nile, and Avian Flu, PUT TOGETHER! And still in the medical world people are trying to push lyme down to the bottom of the hamper. Well I say NO!!! NO more should Dr.'s dismiss it. NO more will Dr.'s be ridiculed for treating it. NO more will this go under the radar, NO!

P.S. I forgot to put that my mom recently went to a dermatologist and guess what happened. HE WON'T TREAT HER CAUSE SHE HAS LYME! This is B.S. Why he be such a ahole I don't know, but he did do it. Just this last week.

 

[mp510]

My brother had lyme, he got tested after removing some ticks from himself. Turned out the lyme wasn't from those ticks, but according to the bloodtest was at least 6 months old (IIRC). He had no definite symptoms before or after treatment- and without the blood test saying he had it, he would have never known. He was on antibiotics for a month, a standard measure according to the doctor.

 

[nate3993]

My brother had lyme, he got tested after removing some ticks from himself. Turned out the lyme wasn't from those ticks, but according to the bloodtest was at least 6 months old (IIRC). He had no definite symptoms before or after treatment- and without the blood test saying he had it, he would have never known. He was on antibiotics for a month, a standard measure according to the doctor.

Sheesh. Only problem is that that standard one month should really be stretched out longer. At least 2 if possible. It's hard on you, but one month won't cut it, but that's all you can get unfortuantely.

 

[Silverdagger]

Won't collodial silver that you get at the healthfood store kill the bacteria? Anybody into alternative medicine? My son had a couple of seed ticks. We are in the South, so Lyme's is a bit rare. That said, it is here. I've given him some silver for good measure.

Interesting article.

http://www.autoimmunityresearch.org/lyme-disease/

 

[nate3993]

Won't collodial silver that you get at the healthfood store kill the bacteria? Anybody into alternative medicine? My son had a couple of seed ticks. We are in the South, so Lyme's is a bit rare. That said, it is here. I've given him some silver for good measure.

Well Getting tested is the best thing. Modern day Medicine can't always do the trick and I've haerd nothing of alternative being any successful. The Dr. that I know and get my Lyme information from has met with the leading Lyme specialists in the U.S. And roomed with one. I know a bit, and haven't heard one thing about alternatives working. Sorry.

 

[Pritch]

Won't collodial silver that you get at the healthfood store kill the bacteria? Anybody into alternative medicine? My son had a couple of seed ticks. We are in the South, so Lyme's is a bit rare. That said, it is here. I've given him some silver for good measure.

No, but it might help you get a gig in Vegas, or a shot at Smurfette!

-- FLIX

 

[Silverdagger]

No, but it might help you get a gig in Vegas, or a shot at Smurfette!

-- FLIX

Read the article I linked. I would wager people wouldn't mind blue if they were prevented from getting Lyme's. Besides you would have to injest a lot to poison your body with it. A few tablespoons a few times a year hasn't done anything to me.

I do not know if it works or not. I have used it with fever and have the fever immediatly vanish. Did the silver do it? I don't know, but the fever often vanishes immediately. I just take it every now in then. My kid with ticks on him for over 48 hours, well he got a couple of doses.

I read about silver really messing up bacteria in non other than the Economist magazine. Apparently it really screws with it. The reason that it was in the mag is that the FDA is considering regulating it.


For the record, my dad is a physician. He doesn't believe in it. My dad in law is a chemical engineer. He manufactures it for our family use.

I have nothing to gain either way. I don't sell the stuff. Something to consider though.